reply to post by Peter Brake
Peter -- thanks for correcting my post about organic food standards and humanure compost. haha.
I do have to laugh as the sustainable human cultures using farming rely on humanure compost. I saw this first hand. But then they have no tolerance
for any Western technology -- for example the government had just put in a gravel road to the Berber village I visited and when a truck drove by all
the women in the field working on their crops -- they all raised their fists in the air and yelled at the truck. haha.
So they can use their own human # for compost but a truck driving by is too environmentally unfriendly. Or a plane flying by overhead just brings
looks of estrangement -- like wtf? Also the Berbers hang "stink pails" outside their houses to scare off the evil spirits -- so bad smell gets a
different take I guess, seeing how it has a secret good purpose. haha.
Consider New Zealand -- I mean seriously anyone who is an organic farmer is a hero in my book.
When invaded by Europeans the Maoris assumed they would become extinct. European rats annihilated the Maori rat, an animal that was a food staple
for the natives. The Maori fly might have help ward off the incursion of sheep that quickly destroyed the local flora, but invading European
houseflies wiped out the local flies. Clover took over where ferns had been, and the Maori waited for their own extinction. The Maori population hit
bottom in 1890 but then began a mysterious recovery and 280,000 people claim to be Maori by 1981 (266-268).
Speaking of book... Ecological Imperialism by Professor Alfred Crosby is a good one
So I mean polar bears and mammals of the oceans are suffering like humans from accumulating the toxic heavy metal and dioxin pollution from
Hopefully this will all be a nice transition as oil runs out but unfortunately as the oil corpses are headed for the methane hydrates in the Arctic --
for natural gas extraction in a way that will just accelerate global warming -- I think humans need to redeem their place in their final 2 minutes of
the 24 hours of life on planet earth (for the billions of years of life).
Mushrooms, bacteria, algae -- it will all recycle and reuse the toxic metals and radiation and plastic dioxin, etc. that us Western modern humans have
contributed to Earth in the last few hundred years.
I think Western farming is really the start of modern global warming -- the ecological imperialism has its roots in the plow and rectilinear farming
versus the circular hoe use in matrifocal African cultures -- using humanure for compost.
Still I definitely agree that humanure compost is not for the weak of heart considering there's a good chance for rotavirus, etc. but then you can get
that from dairy manure also. haha.
I'm not trying to debate you at all -- again I agree that organic farming should not use humanure if it is going to be certified legally -- but ironic
how .. industrial sewage with all the industrial heavy metals is then sold as compost to use on standard farms.
I appreciate that actress Ellen Page from Canada has exposed the lies of this fertilizer from industrial waste being considered a good source for
farms -- when actually humanure is better -- she used humanure compost when training on a permaculture farm in Oregon.
So yeah permaculture can use humanure compost and does -- but not organic farming. haha.
I wonder if any WWOOFing farms use humanure compost in Japan as Japan has a long tradition of humanure compost. there's a big fear of humanure
compost in the West that John Jenkins calls "fecaphobia."
Farmers of Forty Centuries by F.H. King pdf free book
humanure compost tradition of Asia....
In fact the reason Rome had to use the irrigration system with the aquaducts is because they dirtied the water supply by dumping their human waste in
the river while Japan composted
the human waste to use as fertilizer.
Dr. Kawaguchi, of the National Department of Agriculture and Commerce, taking his data from their records, informed us that the human manure saved
and applied to the fields of Japan in 1908 amounted to 23,850,295 tons, which is an average of 1.75 tons per acre of their 21,321 square miles of
cultivated land in their four main islands. On the basis of the data of Wolff, Kellner and Carpenter, or of Hall, the people of the United States and
of Europe are pouring into the sea, lakes or rivers and into the underground waters from 5,794,300 to 12,000,000 pounds of nitrogen; 1,881,900 to
4,151,000 pounds of potassium, and 777,200 to 3,057,600 pounds of phosphorus per million of adult population annually, and this waste we esteem one of
the great achievements of our civilization.
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