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Originally posted by purplemonkeydishwasher
Kemetic Myth. I would spend an hour lecturing you, but you are here to scare people into submission.
OOHH MAH GAWD, THE BOOGY MAN IS GONNA GIT YOU AND YER KEEDS! RUNNN TO JESUS! THAS RYETE, RUN RUN RUN. SATAN'S GUNN' GITYA!
There are other things to do on this planet (nay, infinite universe) aside from war-ship-ing old Idols used to control the collective mind of Humanity.
The main character in the Gospels is Jesus, and never mentions this other person you are substituting in for him.
One pharisee lawyer asked Yeshua once "what is the greatest commandment in the Law?" to which Christ replied "The first and greatest commandment of the law is to love YHWH with all your heart . . .
Jesus is the way, according to the Bible. I doubt your guy has any ability to save anyone, considering he is merely a figment of your imagination.
. . . Yeshua is our way out.
Maybe according to your fantasy religion with your antichrist.
Baptism by water is symbolic of being held within the water of life provided by the Holy Spirit through Yeshua.
I do not think life is a test. We are able to live life better by receiving the spirit that comes from God to us through Jesus.The purpose is so we can better serve others so life is better all around for everyone in this life, which is something that will keep going on long after we pass from this life.
So too must we pass our own tests, only through trials and tribulations can we overcome our sinful nature, it is for this purpose we are afflicted..to refine the silver and gold we carry inside us.
First of all, the New Testament does not mention either of these two people or imagined people.
We are also symbolically a spiritual incarnation of the temple on earth, bearing the spirit of YHWH and Yeshua within us.
First off, I would say there is a separation and distinction between the two individuals here, one being God, and the other, Lord.
As in all things we must put our King and God before ourselves and then do those works, otherwise those works will count for nothing and be nought but dust in the wind.
There is a story very similar to this in the NT, except it involved someone named Jesus.
One pharisee lawyer asked Yeshua once "what is the greatest commandment in the Law?" to which Christ replied "The first and greatest commandment of the law is to love YHWH with all your heart, all your soul and all your mind" and then he said: "and the second greatest commandment is like it, love your neighbor as you love yourself" on these 2 commandments hang the Law and the Prophets. Here Yeshua says that to love YHWH with everything you have is the greatest commandment, putting our God before ourselves. In all things this must be done, in all our works or they mean nothing
According to your way of reading Revelation as a chronologically ordered story of the progression of history, then Jesus hasn't been born yet either, since there is a description of that in the same chapter.
We are the reflection of what is transpiring in heaven probably as we speak the war in heaven is still raging. Satan has not been cast down to earth yet for the final time by Michael which happens in revelation 12.
Humanity died the day the progenitors Adama and Eve fell and chose Satan (the Tree of Knowledge) over Yeshua (the Tree of Life). With that choice we were doomed to be born spiritually dead
we are not incarnated temples. The church as a whole is referred to in the NT as the temple.
Originally posted by purplemonkeydishwasher
Kemetic Myth. I would spend an hour lecturing you, but you are here to scare people into submission.
OOHH MAH GAWD, THE BOOGY MAN IS GONNA GIT YOU AND YER KEEDS! RUNNN TO JESUS! THAS RYETE, RUN RUN RUN. SATAN'S GUNN' GITYA!
There are other things to do on this planet (nay, infinite universe) aside from war-ship-ing old Idols used to control the collective mind of Humanity.
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
TextCatholics got the concept of purgatory backwards, we do not die and go there, we are born there and Yeshua is our way out.
We are the reflection of what is transpiring in heaven probably as we speak the war in heaven is still raging.
most do not understand why we are in " purgatory "
But in this state of peace and purity, sin originated with him who had been perfect in all his ways. The prophet writes of him: “Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness.” Sin is a mysterious, unexplainable thing. There was no reason for its existence; to seek to explain it is to seek to give a reason for it, and that would be to justify it. Sin appeared in a perfect universe, a thing that was shown to be inexcusable.
Little by little, Lucifer came to indulge the desire for self-exaltation.... Though all his glory was from God, this mighty angel came to regard it as pertaining to himself.
Before the great contest should open, all were to have a clear presentation of His [God’s] will, whose wisdom and goodness were the spring of all their joy.
The King of the universe summoned the heavenly host before Him, that in their presence He might set forth the true position of His Son, and show the relation He sustained to all created beings.... Before the assembled inhabitants of heaven the King declared that none but Christ, the Only Begotten of God, could fully enter into His purposes, and to Him it was committed to execute the mighty counsels of His will.
The Son was seated on the throne with the Father, and the heavenly throng of holy angels was gathered around them. The Father then made known that it was ordained by Himself that Christ, His Son, should be equal with Himself; so that wherever was the presence of His Son, it was as His own presence. The word of the Son was to be obeyed as readily as the word of the Father. His Son He had invested with authority to command the heavenly host. Especially was His Son to work in union with Himself in the anticipated creation of the earth....
Satan was envious and jealous of Jesus Christ. Yet when all the angels bowed to Jesus to acknowledge His supremacy and high authority and rightful rule, Satan bowed with them; but his heart was filled with envy and hatred. Christ had been taken into the special counsel of God in regard to His plans, while Satan was unacquainted with them. He did not understand, neither was he permitted to know, the purposes of God. But Christ was acknowledged sovereign of heaven, His power and authority to be the same as that of God Himself. Satan thought that he was himself a favorite in heaven among the angels. He had been highly exalted; but ... he aspired to the height of God Himself. He gloried in his loftiness. He knew that he was honored by the angels. He had a special mission to execute. He had been near the great Creator, and the ceaseless beams of glorious light enshrouding the eternal God, had shone especially upon him. Satan thought how angels had obeyed his command with pleasurable alacrity. Were not his garments light and beautiful? Why should Christ thus be honored before himself?
So the campaign against Christ begins. Satan ... began his work of rebellion with the angels under his command, seeking to diffuse among them the spirit of discontent. And he worked in so deceptive a way that many of the angels were won to his allegiance before his purposes were fully known. By sly insinuations, by which he made it appear that Christ had assumed the place that belonged to himself, Lucifer sowed the seeds of doubt in the minds of many of the angels.
He [Lucifer] gained the sympathy of some of his associates by suggesting thoughts of criticism regarding the government of God. This evil seed was scattered in a most seducing manner; and after it had sprung up and taken root in the minds of many, he gathered the ideas that he himself had first implanted in the minds of others, and brought them before the highest order of angels as the thoughts of other minds against the government of God.
Lucifer ... at first so conducted his temptations that he himself stood uncommitted. The angels whom he could not bring fully to his side, he accused of indifference to the interests of heavenly beings. The very work which he himself was doing, he charged upon the loyal angels. It was his policy to perplex with subtle arguments concerning the purposes of God. Everything that was simple he shrouded in mystery, and by artful perversion cast doubt upon the plainest statements of Jehovah. And his high position, so closely connected with the divine government, gave greater force to his representations.
God’s government included not only the inhabitants of heaven but of all the created worlds; and Satan thought that if he could carry the intelligences of heaven with him in rebellion, he could also carry with him the other worlds.
God in His wisdom did not immediately thrust Satan out of heaven. This act would not have changed his principles, and would only have strengthened his rebellion, for it would have created sympathy for him as one unjustly dealt with; and he would have carried a much larger number with him. He must be displaced, and have time to more fully develop his principles.
He [Lucifer] began to insinuate doubts concerning the laws that governed heavenly beings, intimating that though laws might be necessary for the inhabitants of the worlds, angels, being more exalted, needed no such restraint, for their own wisdom was sufficient guide.
Lucifer ... sought to abolish the law of God. He claimed that the unfallen intelligences of holy heaven had no need of law, but were capable of governing themselves and of preserving unspotted integrity.
Even the loyal angels did not fully discern his [Satan’s] character. This was why God did not at once destroy Satan. Had He done so, the holy angels would not have perceived the justice and love of God. A doubt of God’s goodness would have been as evil seed that would yield the bitter fruit of sin and woe. Therefore the author of evil was spared, fully to develop his character.
The spirit of discontent and disaffection had never before been known in heaven. It was a new element, strange, mysterious, unaccountable. Lucifer himself had not at first been acquainted with the real nature of his feelings; for a time he had feared to express the workings and imaginings of his mind; yet he did not dismiss them. He did not see whither he was drifting. But such efforts as infinite love and wisdom only could devise, were made to convince him of his error. His disaffection was proved to be without cause, and he was made to see what would be the result of persisting in revolt. Lucifer was convinced that he was in the wrong. He saw that the divine statutes are just, and that he ought to acknowledge them as such before all heaven.
In the councils of heaven it was decided that principles must be acted upon that would not at once destroy Satan’s power; for it was God’s purpose to place things upon an eternal basis of security. Time must be given for Satan to develop the principles which were the foundation of his government. The heavenly universe must see worked out the principles which Satan declared to be superior to God’s principles. God’s order must be contrasted with Satan’s order. The corrupting principles of Satan’s rule must be revealed. The principles of righteousness expressed in God’s law must be demonstrated as unchangeable, perfect, eternal.
Satan trembled as he viewed his work. He was alone in meditation upon the past, the present, and his future plans. His mighty frame shook as with a tempest. An angel from heaven was passing. He called him, and entreated an interview with Christ. This was granted him. He then related to the Son of God that he repented of his rebellion, and wished again the favor of God. He was willing to take the place God had previously assigned him, and be under his wise command. Christ wept at Satan’s woe, but told him, as the mind of God, that he could never be received into heaven.... The seeds of rebellion were still within
him...
When Satan became fully convinced that there was no possibility of his being reinstated in the favor of God, he manifested his malice with increased hatred and fiery vehemence...
As soon as the Lord through Jesus Christ created our world, and placed Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, Satan announced his purpose to conform to his own nature the father and mother of all humanity. God created man for His own glory, that after test and trial the human family might become one with the heavenly family. It was God’s purpose to repopulate heaven with the human family. The vacancies made in heaven by the fall of Satan and his angels will be filled by the redeemed of the Lord.
Source: 'The Truth About Angels', E. White summary of chapters 3, 4 and 5
link search the terms 'ta' then go to appropriate chapter
Originally posted by 0mage
Originally posted by purplemonkeydishwasher
Kemetic Myth. I would spend an hour lecturing you, but you are here to scare people into submission.
OOHH MAH GAWD, THE BOOGY MAN IS GONNA GIT YOU AND YER KEEDS! RUNNN TO JESUS! THAS RYETE, RUN RUN RUN. SATAN'S GUNN' GITYA!
There are other things to do on this planet (nay, infinite universe) aside from war-ship-ing old Idols used to control the collective mind of Humanity.
depends on what you consider Jesus.
what if i told u jesus is not a man, but the way!
the way of life
the way to salvation
that his position in the Holy Trinity is all a symbolic conveyance of a hidden message for those who seek salvation.
S&F OP
unfortunately, it seems too many may not get it until it's too late.
if you want the answers, i suggest you click my name, go into my profile and read my posts. I deal with one topic here on ATS. one and one alone. all my posts reference the same thing. Ive made it all very clear and you can take my words literally. i have decoded everything. and sadly it has no worth being placed here on ATS except for those who seek truth and know truth when they come upon it.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by purplemonkeydishwasher
Kemetic Myth. I would spend an hour lecturing you, but you are here to scare people into submission.
OOHH MAH GAWD, THE BOOGY MAN IS GONNA GIT YOU AND YER KEEDS! RUNNN TO JESUS! THAS RYETE, RUN RUN RUN. SATAN'S GUNN' GITYA!
There are other things to do on this planet (nay, infinite universe) aside from war-ship-ing old Idols used to control the collective mind of Humanity.
Fear doesnt scare unbelievers. Herp derp. Explain please how someone who doesn't believe could possibly have fear of something.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
You guys are totally missing my point. Spiritually speaking this world is sheol, the abode of the dead.
We ARE temples of God on earth my friend... didn't you know?
Originally posted by purplemonkeydishwasher
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
You guys are totally missing my point. Spiritually speaking this world is sheol, the abode of the dead.
Sure, the Material World is a pain in the ass.
Prometheus was stuck here for quite some time.
"Since the all-seeing eye represents the Egyptian Osiris, let's look at who Osiris is. He committed incest with his sister, Isis, which resulted in the birth of Horus the Egyptian god of the dead as well as a Sun God .. Osiris is known by many other names in other countries ... In Thrace and Greece, he is known as Dionysus, the god of pleasures and of partying and wine ... Festivals held in Dionysus' honor often resulted in human sacrifices and orgiastic sexual rites. The Phrygians know Osiris as Sabasius where he is honored as the solar deity (a sun god) who was represented by horns and his emblem was a serpent. In other places, he is known by other names: Deouis, The Boy Jupiter, The Centaur, Orion, Saturn, The Boy Plutus, Iswara, The Winged One, Nimrod, Adoni, Hermes, Prometheus, Poseidon, Butes, Dardanus, Himeros, Imbors, Iasius, Zeus, Iacchus, Hu, Thor, Serapis, Ormuzd, Apollo, Thammuz, Atus, Hercules, Shiva, Moloch, and believe it or not, BAAL!"
(Burns, "Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated", p. 359)
Those Brethren who delight to trace our emblems to an astronomical origin, find in the compass a symbol of the sun, and circular pivot representing the body of the luminary, and the diverging legs his rays."
Encyclopedia of Freemasonry p. 236
It is through this weakness that the perfected man, the Sun, is of dual nature, and his evil twin slays him in his glory. So the triumphant Lord of Heaven, the beloved of Apollo and the Muses is brought down into the dust, and who shall mourn him but his Mother Nature, Venus, the lady of love and sorrow?
p. 635, chapter 67 Confessions by Aleister Crowley
"Lucifer, the Light-Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" source: Albert Pike, Morals and Dogmas p.321