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The number of people living with HIV rose from around 8 million in 1990 to 34 million by the end of 2010. The overall growth of the epidemic has stabilised in recent years. The annual number of new HIV infections has steadily declined and due to the significant increase in people receiving antiretroviral therapy, the number of AIDS-related deaths has also declined.
Originally posted by Studenofhistory
Bravo for a great post and thank you for bringing this to ATS. It's amazing how false science becomes conventional wisdom.
Originally posted by daynight42
reply to post by GalacticTruth1
You understand correctly.
AIDS is a big collection of diseases that kill people. If you have those diseases, you may not have AIDS. If you test positive on their HIV tests with those diseases, then you have AIDS. If you don't, you don't! Stupid!
- You can be HIV+ and live a normal life span, never taking a drug in your life.
- You can die of "AIDS" diseases while remaining HIV-
Where's the logic within the "scientific" community? They are a bunch of profiteering apes!
BAM! Now, that's the end of this!
I might suggest taking the drugs as a very very last resort, and never take any more than you need to keep yourself healthy.
People have reversed "HIV" test results, and doctor's haven't the slightest CLUE how these people did so.
I've known at least one person whose CD4 has been exactly around 200 ...that is 202...198, etc...and he's NEVER sick, and he felt worse taking the medication even when it brought the number higher to around 350!
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SUSPEND ALL HIV TESTING MBEKI EXPERT PANEL RECOMMENDS
By Huw Christie
New African September 2000
Eminent world scientists from both sides of the AIDS debate have been mandated by the Mbeki AIDS panel to undertake historic experiments to attempt to purify, or isolate, the HIV virus; and also examine the current HIV testing methodologies. In the meantime, the panel wants all HIV testing to be suspended. "It's a worthless distraction," says one panel member. Huw Christie reports from Johannesburg.
Amidst scientific debate and political revelations, senior members of the South African Presidential Panel of Inquiry into HIV/AIDS have called for the suspension of all HIV testing. The full panel of some 33 scientists convened for the second and final time in Johannesburg on 3-4 July, at the large Crowne Court Hotel in upmarket Sandton, in the attentive presence of South African minister of health Manto Tshabalala-Msimang (a medical doctor herself).
During sometimes turbulent proceedings, Dr. Valendar Turner on behalf of the Perth Group of scientists in Western Australia, Prof. Sam Mhlongo, head of Family Medicine and Primary Care at the Medical University of South Africa, and Dr. David Rasnick of UCLA, California, amongst others, appealed for the cessation of HIV testing.
The Perth Group and Prof. Mhlongo stressed that the accuracy of all HIV tests is so questionable, there is no cause for continuing to use them unless their specificity can be determined.
They say there are too many common African illnesses which create "false positive" results on HIV tests, and that no HIV test has ever been validated against the one necessary scientific "gold standard" -- virus isolation. This reality is recognised by the manufacturers of such tests who typically warn: "At present there is no recognised standard for establishing the presence or absence of antibodies to HIV-1 and HIV-2 in human blood." (Axsym System, Abbott Laboratories.)