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"HIV is not a virus but a collection of gene products that can appear when immune system cells are chronically stimulated in the body or drastically manipulated in the laboratory. No two identical HIVs have been isolated, even from the same individual." - Neville Hodgkinson
It has been dubbed the incurable disease caused by an elusive virus called the HIV/AIDS virus. However, scientists have presented compelling evidence showing that HIV/AIDS is nothing more than a pseudo-science hoax and the real culprits are the AIDS medications like AZT that do more harm than good.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determined that every case of AIDS includes one of the 29 pre-existing illnesses that were defined by the CDC. These include the three additional conditions namely: Pulmonary Tuberculosis, Pneumonia and Cervical cancer that were added on October 28, 1992.
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Originally posted by Helious
reply to post by seedofchucky
No, no, your not understanding the post, thats even if you read the whole thing. What it is in fact saying is that you would not present with the AIDS "virus" without pre existing conditions so there wouldn't actually be an AIDS virus to inject yourself with because in reality.... I't doesn't exist. Reading comprehension is your friend.
Originally posted by seedofchucky
Same goes for the electric universe punks , bring forth your true anti-gravity device and prove your outlandish claims
Originally posted by seedofchucky
Everyone got a thing or two to say about aids . But you know who i'm going to believe ? The one who actually puts a fix on the table , gets multiple people with aids injected and then tested to verify they are clear. I will take his word for it.
Its simple. whoever thinks they figured out aids , bring your fix and have it tested against numerous various types of . If all the tests come back negative , you win :p Till then Hearsay , fairytale , baseless , willy wonka talk . lol
Same goes for the electric universe punks , bring forth your true anti-gravity device and prove your outlandish claims
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
Apparently you didn't read the thread at all. If you would have, you may have seen how your comment is completely unrelated. Anyway, the one thing nagging at me is as follows: someone tests positive for HIV, but this actually has nothing to do with aids. Then they are treated with drugs that actually induce negative effects? Is that right? I just want to make sure I didn't misunderstand what I read.
So if this is true, what does it mean for those who are said to have aids? Does it mean they really have a completely different condition altogether, and that they could possibly be healed if that particular condition were treated instead? I have seen the inconsistencies with the "isolation" of the HIV virus not too long ago, and the truth did seem to point in the direction of something being amiss. I am certain that is the case, although I never knew exactly what that meant. This could possibly be it. Thanks, and good thread.
Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by neotech1neothink
I've never believed it at all. I came to the same conclusion when I learned that they were diagnosing people who had low iron (anemic) as being HIV positive. Guess which population has an epidemic of anemia ?
African Americans
Guess which population is now supposedly suffering a mass epidemic of HIV/AIDS
African Americans
And now, I see they have added three more diseases that they want to use to diagnose people with HIV.
I soon discovered that there had been astonishingly five major investigations between 1990 and 1995 into possible fraud in Gallo's HIV research, several of these overlapping with the others.
I soon learnt, from the OSI investigation records, that Gallo had confessed to it in 1990 that he had not found the AIDS virus in 1982, as reported in the Science papers. He admitted to it that he had only detected the enzyme RT in 1982, and had not found the virus itself. The investigators reported that he had lied when he claimed he did ‘more than fifty' detections and produced ‘ten true isolates' of the AIDS virus in 1982. They concluded that he did not find the virus before 1984.
But, in the apparent belief that people have forgotten this confession, Gallo is now astonishingly repeatedly making the same claim - that he found HIV in 1982 before anyone else. He did so in his recent book and he did so, even most seriously, in sworn testimony in 2007 to an Australian court. (More on this below.) So for me, discovering his earlier confession was something of a shock.....
........The OSI chief, Suzanne Hadley, was then drafting the final OSI report and about to conclude that Gallo's chief investigative scientist, Mikulas Popovic, the primary author of the most significant of the four Science papers, had falsified the data in this paper - and to recommend that he be condemned for scientific misconduct.
But, when Popovic heard of this, in desperation he had produced long-hidden key evidence. He gave Hadley a 1984 typed draft of the key Science paper that he had kept hidden overseas. Among other things, this draft revealed that Robert Gallo had extensively changed this paper at the last moment to hide their use of the French virus.
With this it seemed the evidence was at hand to prove Gallo guilty of illegal use of the French virus and thus of scientific deceit. Hadley composed her OSI report accordingly. She concluded: ‘Dr. Gallo has claimed credit for the Popovic et al. paper and the other 1984 papers, so must he bear responsibility for the falsehoods in the Popovic et al. paper. Accordingly the OSI finds that Dr Robert Gallo engaged in scientific misconduct.'
This was a damning conclusion. This OSI report now should have gone to the Richards Panel for review - but at this point Healy intervened, removing Haley from her duties at the OSI. The indictment of Gallo was deleted from her report.