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Venus 'Bunny Hops' Across The Face Of The Sun In A Slow Motion Sine Wave Unlike Predicted Course

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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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Yes, I thought the motion was a little too erratic in the video. Your one is most impressive. I like the way how Venus seems to turn translucent at one point. In your vid at the 30 second mark it passes over the edge of the sun but you can see right through Venus, or at least, that's how it appears. Cool video.


I watched the start of the transit via NASA's webcast where they had some commentary going so knew it wasn't faked. Too many people were watching it world wide with their special sunglasses also.




posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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Click this www.abovetopsecret.com...

Good answer from a knowledgable straight-shooter.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee
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Interesting looking...the people on the comments on the video site seem to think it is

"You are looking at the ProbA2 SWAP image. The spacecraft is in a sun-synchronous orbit which ascends and descends enough to effectively change the perspective because the camera is locked to center the sun as it varies. This causes Venus in the images to appear that it's orbital path is wobbling. In actuality the path is stable.
vitto 1 day ago 2 "
Seems reasonable I don't know, would love to know more.

Bingo, it's parallax due to the orbital motion of ProbA2. ProbA2 orbits each MUCH closer than SDO, so it completes several orbits around earth as the transit happens, causing it to appear to bob up and down as the satellite goes from its ascending node to descending node and back again.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Plus, the article states that gravity pushes and does not pull.


Thanks for reading the article. And watching the video.

The OP's title made me shiver. Venus Is not in an unstable orbit.

About gravity:


We understand that gravity is a purely attractive force - it can only pull, never push - and that it is generated by any object with mass.



There is not one, not two, not even three gravity equations, but many! The one most people know describes Newton’s universal law of gravitation: F = Gm1m2/r2, where F is the force due to gravity, between two masses (m1 and m2), which are a distance r apart; G is the gravitational constant.


Gravity is the force of attraction between two objects, and albeit it is still just a theory, it is a pretty solid one.

When you are addressing gravity on a planetary scale, you have to realize the planets in our solar system have followed the same path for eons, in fact, since our neighborhood in the cosmos was created billions of years ago.

"Bunny Hopping" doesn't occur with planetary orbits. I can't think of anything that would cause such a thing, and allow the orbit to resolve BACK to a normal state.

Sure, you can perturb the orbit of a planet, but it's orbit will be erratic thereafter.

I think most people have trouble comprehending the planetary scale.

(The doughnuts next to the sun was a good example of a lens artifact, but once people realized it would be the size of Jupiter next to the sun, rationality sets back in. Toss in the gravitational effects, and we can rule out actual planetary bodies, and look towards more rational explanations.)

The orbit of Venus is still stable, so ah, er uhm......



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by roadgravel

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
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.. it is a board rule that threads have the same title as the place you get the info from...


Is that in a thread somewhere? Did not see it in the T&C.


That's only for "Breaking News" forums.




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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus

Plus, the article states that gravity pushes and does not pull. If that were so, everything not attached to this planet would go flying off into space, no?


No
Push Theory is just as viable as pull.

As far as the Bunny Hop video goes, it certainly seems likely that if anything could disrupt the normal
orbital pattern of a planet as large as Venus we should be able to see whatever is causing the Hop
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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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I thought venus was supposed to transit from top left to bottom right? I don't think this is a video of venus at all. I'll go try to find a real video.

Got one. The video from OP is totally FAKE!

This link has many different videos, but from 0:46 to 0:52 is the actual transit of venus in visible light.
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orbit looks good but as has been mentioned why does Venus appear translucent? i think that's a far bigger question than the orbital path. doesn't appear to be an artifact since it lines up dead on with the sun?



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle

Originally posted by getreadyalready
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I thought venus was supposed to transit from top left to bottom right? I don't think this is a video of venus at all. I'll go try to find a real video.

Got one. The video from OP is totally FAKE!

This link has many different videos, but from 0:46 to 0:52 is the actual transit of venus in visible light.
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orbit looks good but as has been mentioned why does Venus appear translucent? i think that's a far bigger question than the orbital path. doesn't appear to be an artifact since it lines up dead on with the sun?

Answered here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Did anyone check the comments of the video?



Nope, not stupid and this video is 100% real. The movement of the Proba-2 camera makes Venus seem like it's jumping. See TBar's Starry Night Pro simulation - 3:30 into /watch?v=lxa52DlWz78



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by DaRAGE
Did anyone check the comments of the video?



Nope, not stupid and this video is 100% real. The movement of the Proba-2 camera makes Venus seem like it's jumping. See TBar's Starry Night Pro simulation - 3:30 into /watch?v=lxa52DlWz78

Yes.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Fortunately there are at least some knowledgeable people on youtube. TBar is definitely one of them.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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I am aware of the Sine wave concern, but I am also aware of the explanations surrounding why such a Sine wave exits.

While I do not wish to discuss whether such a Sine wave was in fact just the orbital rotation of a camera, I do wish to mention the ability to see through Venus as it transited the sun.

I would add that while I have seen a number of videos showing concern or calling the Venus transit a hoax, most think to small to understand how such a Venus transit could have been hoaxed and since this thread is discussing the Venus transit, this is as good a place as any for my comments.

On May 25, 2012 there was a large massive object that was near the sun and appears to deflect or shield earth from a massive CME that can be seen in the solar images captured.

Video Link: "Coronal Cavity Sphere Deflects Solar Eruption! May 25, 2012"

www.youtube.com...

Such a large unknown object, appearing to be under intelligent control appeared to be 4 times larger than Jupiter and if such a large object is a space craft, then to me, such a large craft could deploy a smaller drone craft that perhaps is the size of Venus and it is this smaller probe or craft that could then mimic the orbit of Venus and would appear to be Venus as it transited across the face of the sun.

This is why when anyone states that the transit was captured and witnessed by many, what we were seeing could have been a massive space craft, used to play the part of Venus in this clever deception.

Since there are those that believe that the the Venus transit was hoaxed, how it was hoaxed is where most lose the ability to see that only a massive craft could pretend to be Venus and only such a craft programmed to achieve a specific orbit across the sun and timed to the needs of the conspiracy, could hoax such a transit.

Only after accepting that perhaps the Venus transit was hoaxed by a massive space craft does it also then make sense that the eclipse of May 20th also become questionable.

Since many including myself believe that something happened on May 20th that does not "Feel right", it then follows that if the May 20th was hoaxed as some think, then the Venus transit would also have to be hoaxed.

Such a hoax then brings one to think that if someone is hoaxing eclipses and transits, then it must not be what time we think it is.

This could explain why the Jaguar Serpent, Quetzalcoatl did not return on May 20th and why many other events linked to May 20, 2012 did not occur, because it may not be what day and time we think it is.

In fact, we could be in a time temporal gap where time is repeated day after day like in the movie, Ground Hog Day, where the day just repeats over and over.

Since no one really knows, I can say that all the hoax claims for the Venus transit and the eclipse of May 20th stem from the fact that if such events were hoaxed, then how it was hoaxed is what keeps many from seeing what is going on.

This is why the large space craft witnessed by many on May 25, 2012 near the sun clearly shows a massive craft and it is that massive craft that in my mind could have a smaller craft that could pass as Venus when it transits.

Since the transit was hoaxed, images of Venus would have to be doctored and it is those doctored images that show us the sun being seen through Venus when we know the sun cannot shine through a planet.

The hoax of the recent Venus transit can only be accepted when we begin to see that such size crafts could be used to hoax an event and since such craft act as if under intelligent control, I have to assume they are under intelligent control and if this is the case, then they have the means to hoax a transit and perhaps even an eclipse.

With space and celestial data restricted in most regards from NASA and other space agencies, it would then easy to hoax so that no one could prove the hoax.

I contend we witnessed a hoax on June 5-6 and on May 20th and the means to conduct such a hoax is evidenced by the large space craft that was seen on May 25, 2012 near the sun doing what many still ponder and question what was going on near the sun.

It is these concerns that to me strengthens a hoax not reduces it. At least that is how I see it, so while you are free to think what you will, I believe that a hoax was achieved only by use of a massive craft.

While the stoppage of time, time temporal gaps and other time anomalies are possible, not until we see how a hoax could have been carried out by use of such a large space craft does "Hoax" then begin to appear more and more plausible.

Link to original video by RT that shows what others have used to claim the Venus transit was a hoax. Watch the first few seconds to see the concern with seeing the sun through Venus as it passes across the sun.

Amazing video: Transit of Venus across the Sun 2012
www.youtube.com...

If a hoax took place, it is important to discuss how such a hoax could have been achieved



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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No Push Theory is just as viable as pull.
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Oh, how I love it when posters act superior and use this little guy:



This is why it was phrased as a question, dear poster, and not as a statement. Since you appear to be as much of a genius as the loon who wrote the initial article linked in the OP, why don't you come down from your ivory tower and explain why things fall to earth, as opposed to being pushed away from it? My example had to do with what happens on earth, forces that people experience daily. I am aware that celestial mechanics have different forces acting on large bodies (and they're all theories), but please illuminate us dull folk on earth gravity.

Seriously, I detest it when posters act as you just did. Put up or shut up.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by MaxBlack
I am aware of the Sine wave concern, but I am also aware of the explanations surrounding why such a Sine wave exits.

While I do not wish to discuss whether such a Sine wave was in fact just the orbital rotation of a camera, I do wish to mention the ability to see through Venus as it transited the sun.

I would add that while I have seen a number of videos showing concern or calling the Venus transit a hoax, most think to small to understand how such a Venus transit could have been hoaxed and since this thread is discussing the Venus transit, this is as good a place as any for my comments.

This thread is rapidly becoming a whack-a-mole series of different claims. The transit was not a hoax, amateurs witnessed it.


On May 25, 2012 there was a large massive object that was near the sun and appears to deflect or shield earth from a massive CME that can be seen in the solar images captured.

Video Link: "Coronal Cavity Sphere Deflects Solar Eruption! May 25, 2012"

Do you even know what a coronal cavity is?


Such a large unknown object, appearing to be under intelligent control appeared to be 4 times larger than Jupiter and if such a large object is a space craft, then to me, such a large craft could deploy a smaller drone craft that perhaps is the size of Venus and it is this smaller probe or craft that could then mimic the orbit of Venus and would appear to be Venus as it transited across the face of the sun.

Well your whole claim is based on a lack of understanding of coronal cavities and filament channels. And now we have yet another claim ("space ships" instead of filament channels) to deal with.


Only after accepting that perhaps the Venus transit was hoaxed by a massive space craft does it also then make sense that the eclipse of May 20th also become questionable.

Well if you believe the Venus transit was "hoaxed" by a "spaceship" then I'm sure you'll believe anything. The whole claim is absurd beyond belief. You can't swap planets out for "spaceships" without disrupting the orbits of the other planets.


Since many including myself believe that something happened on May 20th that does not "Feel right", it then follows that if the May 20th was hoaxed as some think, then the Venus transit would also have to be hoaxed.

I don't care how it "feels," it's up to you to prove that it's wrong, with evidence, not claims followed by supposition followed by more claims.


Since the transit was hoaxed, images of Venus would have to be doctored and it is those doctored images that show us the sun being seen through Venus when we know the sun cannot shine through a planet.

For the last time, this was already explained. I linked to the explanation within the thread as have others. It's called quantum efficiency hysteresis. The light from the sun caused a differential charge accumulation in the back-illuminated CCD based on which pixels previously received the most light, resulting in "ghosting" of the sun's image on top of Venus as it transited. They went to extreme lengths to increase the cadence of the images taken that day by doing sub-frame imaging, which is something that they don't normally do. This was done not only to study Venus, but also the response of the camera.


With space and celestial data restricted in most regards from NASA and other space agencies, it would then easy to hoax so that no one could prove the hoax.

No offense, but what the heck are you talking about? NASA is extremely open with their data. They make the raw data available for everything.


I contend we witnessed a hoax on June 5-6 and on May 20th and the means to conduct such a hoax is evidenced by the large space craft that was seen on May 25, 2012 near the sun doing what many still ponder and question what was going on near the sun.

It's called a coronal cavity. Are you aware of what a filament channel is?


It is these concerns that to me strengthens a hoax not reduces it. At least that is how I see it, so while you are free to think what you will, I believe that a hoax was achieved only by use of a massive craft.

You can't alter the solar system like that without affecting the orbits of the planets. That's absurd in the extreme.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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I read your post and I have to tell you that something just doesn't "feel right" about it. This for example


I contend we witnessed a hoax on June 5-6 and on May 20th

Can you tell us where Venus and the Moon respectively actually were during the times of the "hoaxes"? I think it's a reasonable question.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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Please explain where Venus and the Moon were, if the events witnessed by Billions of people were hoaxed?

Do you not think that if both the Moon and Venus were not where they were suppose to be, that every college, university and hundreds of millions of amateur astronomers would not be proclaiming that they are out of place?

You feel that NASA withholds or manipulates data. I will not sit here and argue whether or not they do this with you.

However, the "data" that you are talking about is available to every single human being on the face of this planet!

The orbital positions and periods of both the moon and Venus have been known to us for hundreds of years. Thousands if you want to go back far enough to the ancients to recorded the positions of both.

Now, if that was a space ship that transited across the face of the sun, where is Venus? You can't have it just go away and come back.
If that was also something other than the moon that eclipsed the sun on May 20th, would you mind telling me where the moon was? And WHY the tides here on Earth happened exactly at the times they were suppose to on that day?
Move the moon and you affect the Earth's tides, either in height, position or time depending on how you moved the moon.

Considering your entire theory is based upon a coronal cavity being a spaceship 4 times the size of Jupiter, and only because something does not "feel" right to you.........I would ask this:

Are you a astronomer with years of experience in this field?

If not, then how do you now what "feels" right and what doesn't? Take some courses in astrophysics and solar astronomy first, then get back to us on how you "feel".


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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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Sent you a u2u as not to derail the thread.
Please read.Thank you


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