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reply posted on 12-6-2012 @ 01:25 PM by MrXYZ
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I am surprised how many atheist are on the forum, you have greater faith than I,

It takes just as much faith not to believe than to believe, and hope dare I say.


That's like saying it takes just as much as faith to believe in unicorns than not to believe in them...which of course is nonsense


reply posted on 12-6-2012 @ 04:01 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by MrXYZ
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I am surprised how many atheist are on the forum, you have greater faith than I,

It takes just as much faith not to believe than to believe, and hope dare I say.


That's like saying it takes just as much as faith to believe in unicorns than not to believe in them...which of course is nonsense


We are not talking about unicorns.


reply posted on 12-6-2012 @ 04:08 PM by MrXYZ
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by MrXYZ
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I am surprised how many atheist are on the forum, you have greater faith than I,

It takes just as much faith not to believe than to believe, and hope dare I say.


That's like saying it takes just as much as faith to believe in unicorns than not to believe in them...which of course is nonsense


We are not talking about unicorns.


It's a metaphor...both unicorns and god have ZERO objective evidence behind them.


reply posted on 12-6-2012 @ 04:37 PM by Stormdancer777
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It's a metaphor...both unicorns and god have ZERO objective evidence behind them.


I understand, I have questioned, I have had doubts, but experiences make me lean towards believing.

It all boils down the the experience. It is a personal and inward journey.

That's why I should have kept quiet.

Plotinus sixth Ennead
The soul always leaves something of itself above.

Have we just forgot our divine origins, and have run away from the source?

Retrace the path from which we came and in so doing learning to know oneself, and so to know god.

Isn't that also what Science is all about?


The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as of all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all there is.

Einstein


reply posted on 12-6-2012 @ 07:22 PM by galadofwarthethird
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Either that, or the creator doesn't think the way we think. I always wondered how god could let suffering continue, but how many times do you consider an ant, for example.?


Well that depends, seeing that I mostly see or notice ants out on sunny days I suppose to most people it comes down to. Do they consider the ants with a magnifying glass or without.

And in any case very few actually notice ants at all, and almost none think of the ant's at all even if they see one. So going by that and the whole as above so bellow thing and lets just say for theory purposes that GOD exists. Well then I suppose you could say ya in a way were made in gods image. And seeing as we don't care about ants, then why should this being people call GOD care about the ants of the universe, the ants being us.


reply posted on 12-6-2012 @ 09:33 PM by gentledissident
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I still don't see how you can prove god doesn't exist.

I don't see how you can prove unicorns don't exist. Now, it's just plain obvious that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists. There's no argument.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I am fine with you not believing, but you are not fine with me believing.

Are you supposed to be "fine" with that? I think atheists have a problem with the believers because of all the negative effects of schizophrenia.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
It all boils down the the experience. It is a personal and inward journey.

Can that be rephrased as, "If you believe, then you will believe"?

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Retrace the path from which we came and in so doing learning to know oneself, and so to know god.

Isn't that also what Science is all about?

Science is about a lot of things. Regarding the god concept, science attempts to explain why people hold irrational beliefs.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious.

That's called ignorance.

Originally posted by Noncompatible
Give me objective evidence to the contrary, I will happily concede my mistake and continue to expand my knowledge base from there.

I agree. Is there an atheist who doesn't think the same?
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reply posted on 22-6-2012 @ 08:09 PM by unityemissions
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The notion that, "there's nothing new under the sun" is a general truth, but absolute absurdity. What of the notion of nothingness, or the concept of zero or a negative??

I think true innovation is the result of brain farts or mini strokes or what have you. The first response is adequate to fill in the rest.
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