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The first 2 vision I posted up were not from Ellen White, it was from another man in the SDA church called Ernie Knoll who has been receiving these kinds of dreams since only about 2006. They agree with Ellen White and they agree with the Bible....that is why I presented it. I don't mind that you don't take on board the message that I have given right now. I just ask that you read closely what I have posted and follow up the source links so that when these things do transpire according to what has been said here you will remember and make the right decision.
We, being concerned net-izens and seekers of Bible Truth, present to you this little website with some important information about a gentleman named Ernie Knoll. Since Spring 2005, he has had a series of dreams that he claims are inspired by God. He now has a ministry website called 4HisPeople, where he shares his many dreams. On the surface, these dreams sound true and in harmony with God's true prophets. Many have been convinced that Ernie Knoll's dreams are from God.
However, the Bible says in 1 John 4:1, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." And in Isaiah 8:20, it says, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
Thus, obeying these positive commands from Scripture, we have tried this particular "spirit", and we have firmly concluded that it is not from God. The "Herald" messenger in Ernie's dreams bears a striking resemblance to an evil angel, or perhaps Satan himself, clothed as an "angel of light" (2 Cor 11:14).
As you will see from the articles posted on this wesite, Ernie Knoll has admitted that he is not a very good Bible student. His writings portray that the way a Christian should recognize Truth is by visual cues, dreams, and impressions, not by the first criteria that has always been urged by God's true prophets: a diligent study of the Bible and obedience to God's Word. In fact, according to our sources, Ernie Knoll had had a very nominal relationship with God for decades before his first dream. And on the very night when his first dream occurred, he was cursing God and wishing to die.
Furthermore, he has made at least two prophecies that have not come true, and he has plainly contradicted previous revelation on Tithing. Rather than writing our own extensive documentation of the reasons for our conclusions, we here provide several documents that others have written for public viewing, which serve the same purpose.
John 16:2-4 "...the time is coming that whoever kills you will think he offers God service. And these things they do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you so that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you them."
1 John 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands
Matthew 19:17 "...but if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments"
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus
Matthew 5:18 Verily I say to you, til Heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle may pass away from the law...
Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by JesuitGarlic
We are not in the kingdom of God until we have passed and overcome the Earth, Air, Water and Fire. Spirit is the final baptism.
Jesus has already overcome the world for us. Your combination of elements is sounding more like an Alister Crowley magick innovation ritual than anything resembling the gospel.edit on 10-6-2012 by JesuitGarlic because: (no reason given)
I will give you a bit of a tour of history to better reflect what the Sabbath is all about and how Satan has tried to give it a bad rap....it is definitely not a 'sacrifice'
Let's see what happened after the breaking of the first covenant...
The whole point of this thread is to get people out of Babylon because we are close to the end and the tribulation period is almost upon us. I happen to know as a fact the final end days test to divide the sheep from the goats and properly test a supposed Christians faith in Jesus is going to be on the Fourth commandment. The information I am presenting is actually way more accurate than the OP's, it is absolutely spot on. The Holy Spirit is meant to convince you of your transgression of God's Law, if it makes you look bad then remove yourself from sin.
I firmly disagree.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by JesuitGarlic
John 16:2-4 "...the time is coming that whoever kills you will think he offers God service. And these things they do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you so that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you them."
1 John 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands
Matthew 19:17 "...but if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments"
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus
Matthew 5:18 Verily I say to you, til Heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle may pass away from the law...
I appreciate your zeal. You are quite right that we must fulfill the law, but WE cannot do that here. There is an order and the new aspect of God's plan that is given to mankind is always given at the end of the age.
Epistle of Barnabas 15:4
Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years; and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end."
To see this clearly, let’s put the information into context with the entire story of the Bible:
-Adam to Abraham 2000 Years of Age 1 (FATHER)
-Abraham to Jesus 2000 Years of Age 2 (SON)
-Jesus to Today 2000 Years of Age 3 (HOLY SPIRIT)
-Day of Rest (Day of the Lord) 1000 years (SALVATION)
When Did Abraham bring the new nation? When did the nation begin to come together? Did it happen at the time before Abraham?
When did the Son arrive and sacrifice for our sin? Does he need to do it again and again or is once enough for all our sins?
When does the holy spirit come to man, the time at which we stop sinning? Do we have it now ourselves, or do we have a comforter until we have our own holy mind at one with God? Not now because we are all still sinners.
When do we gain salvation? Now? Don't we still have 1000 years of rest with Christ when he reveals all things?
We need to know what is over the veil before our egg is restored. There will be a new heaven and a new Earth after Satan is released. When does that happen? End of the 1000 year reign.
Timing is important. The sabbath is important. This is why we will want to take it. The sabbath here is only an image of the one to come. I agree. Saturday is the actual day. Sunday is the celebration of the Son rising in our hearts. There is no paradox or sin. The pagan ritual is a false image. They copied God, not the other way around. God is larger than our error. Love keeps no records of wrongs for those who take the name and character. Those who take the name apart form the character of love take it in vain. We cannot fulfill the law. Christ did.
We are not seen by our own filthy rags. We are seen by Christ and His sacrifice when God looks at our soul. We are INSIDE Christ. Can we boast that we saved ourselves by observing the law? Galatians 3. read it. Even in this image, we are covered. Love covers a multitude of sin.
I firmly disagree.
Satan's synagog would have you castrated, unable to bear good fruit.
Christ fulfilled the law, yes, but as Christ said, "we must fullfill all righteousness." Jesus told people to stop sinning.
If Jesus told you to stop sinning, what would you say to Him?
"Oh no far be it from me, you died so I can nullify your teachings and disregard your commands, carry my own cross?! Are you kidding me, YOU carry my cross! I love you Jesus I'm willing to die for you but I'm not willing to, as you say, 'go and sin no more'."??? Would it sound something like that?
Anyone who observes the law, in keeping observance of it, would not boast. The Pharissees thought Jesus was boasting, they thought He was arrogant and evil. He spoke the truth, by His words He was justified.
Love for GOD covers a multitude of sin, ONLY when we love Him with ALL our hearts, ALL our mind, ALL of our strength, Jesus never abolished the law, Paul did, Jesus never said that His death would make us righteous in God's sight, Paul did. I could go on and on and I likely will.
The 144,000 that are sealed are all Jews. 12,000 from each tribe (12 tribes) of Israel. This has nothing to do with the Gentiles. God's plan for us was different.
Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by Wonders
I firmly disagree.
Satan's synagog would have you castrated, unable to bear good fruit.
Christ fulfilled the law, yes, but as Christ said, "we must fullfill all righteousness." Jesus told people to stop sinning.
If Jesus told you to stop sinning, what would you say to Him?
"Oh no far be it from me, you died so I can nullify your teachings and disregard your commands, carry my own cross?! Are you kidding me, YOU carry my cross! I love you Jesus I'm willing to die for you but I'm not willing to, as you say, 'go and sin no more'."??? Would it sound something like that?
Anyone who observes the law, in keeping observance of it, would not boast. The Pharissees thought Jesus was boasting, they thought He was arrogant and evil. He spoke the truth, by His words He was justified.
Love for GOD covers a multitude of sin, ONLY when we love Him with ALL our hearts, ALL our mind, ALL of our strength, Jesus never abolished the law, Paul did, Jesus never said that His death would make us righteous in God's sight, Paul did. I could go on and on and I likely will.
The difference with the "Experts" is the same as with anyone. They did not believe he was the Son of God. Faith is the foundation. He said they would get the sign of Jonah. That's it. Of course, that was a very loaded sign. It would take the next 3000 years to complete. 2000 years is just the warmup. To Peter, he said, "Feed my sheep. Do you love me? Do you love me? Do you love me Peter?" Again, mirroring the sign of Jonah to him. Peter is the archetype for the false church of Petros. This is the stone the builders did choose. Petra is the foundation Stone of Christ. The Builders rejected the cornerstone, or even capstone depending on the book. Capstone has even more significance when related to the Builders and Egypt.
I say all that to simply ask, "Who died and rose again for us?" Osiris? Satan? No. Christ is the only one who can. He is our kinsman and we are bond-servants. A servants, we now take on the name (Character) of Christ. We are no longer bound by Law, but fulfill the law as Christ did in Love. Eventually, we will be baptized fully into the Holy Spirit of God. This happens in the homestretch of the 1000 years of peace.
There is a big difference between a bond-servant and a slave. A bond-servant is what we consider a person today who is hired by a farmer to work with him on the farm. We are fellow laborers. Fellow because Christ is also a laborer. God requires us all to be. Not our will but his.
We are rising to new life. We have not risen. Christ did that. He was the first fruits of what we will eventually be.
Salvation needs to arrive for all of us who patiently wait.
Hebrews 9:28
28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
If we could do this on our own, we wouldn't need a savior. We are still fallen. Very much so.
edit on 10-6-2012 by EnochWasRight because: (no reason given)
Throughout Christendom, Protestantism was menaced by formidable foes. The first triumphs of the Reformation past, Rome summoned new forces, hoping to accomplish its destruction. At this time, the order of the Jesuits was created, the most cruel, unscrupulous, and powerful of all the champions of popery. Cut off from every earthly tie and human interest, dead to the claims of natural affection, reason and conscience wholly silenced, they knew no rule, no tie, but that of their order, and no duty but to extend its power. The gospel of Christ had enabled its adherents to meet danger and endure suffering, undismayed by cold, hunger, toil, and poverty, to uphold the banner of truth in face of the rack, the dungeon, and the stake. To combat these forces, Jesuitism inspired its followers with a fanaticism that enabled them to endure like dangers, and to oppose to the power of truth all the weapons of deception. There was no crime too great for them to commit, no deception too base for them to practice, no disguise too difficult for them to assume. Vowed to perpetual poverty and humility, it was their studied aim to secure wealth and power, to be devoted to the overthrow of Protestantism, and the re-establishment of the papal supremacy.
When appearing as members of their order, they wore a garb of sanctity, visiting prisons and hospitals, ministering to the sick and the poor, professing to have renounced the world, and bearing the sacred name of Jesus, who went about doing good. But under this blameless exterior the most criminal and deadly purposes were concealed. It was a fundamental principle of the order that the end justifies the means. By this code, lying, theft, perjury, assassination, were not only pardonable but commendable, when they served the interests of the church. Under various disguises the Jesuits worked their way into offices of State, climbing up to be the counselors of kings, and shaping the policy of nations. They became servants, to act as spies upon their masters. They established colleges for the sons of princes and nobles, and schools for the common people; and the children of Protestant parents were drawn into an observance of popish rites. All the outward pomp and display of the Romish worship was brought to bear to confuse the mind, and dazzle and captivate the imagination; and thus the liberty for which the fathers had toiled and bled was betrayed by the sons. The Jesuits rapidly spread themselves over Europe, and wherever they went, there followed a revival of popery.
To give them greater power, a bull was issued re-establishing the Inquisition. Notwithstanding the general abhorrence with which it was regarded, even in Catholic countries, this terrible tribunal was again set up by popish rulers, and atrocities too terrible to bear the light of day were repeated in its secret dungeons. In many countries, thousands upon thousands of the very flower of the nation, the purest and noblest, the most intellectual and highly educated, pious and devoted pastors, industrious and patriotic citizens, brilliant scholars, talented artists, skillful artisans, were slain, or forced to flee to other lands.
source: Great Controversy (1888) p. 234-235
4) And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5) Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6) Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7) Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8) Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Yes it is all well and good to have all these numbers around representing things whether the information is from David Flynn or otherwise. The information can show the divinity or supernatural aspect of the message in the beauty of the numbers. Merely giving people numbers and concentrating on date setting is not going to be effective in winning people over to God. What is the basis of the message, 'time is close so you better put your house in order'???
All your date setting and numbers is going to lead you to think that when Satan impersonate Jesus' second coming initially to establish his visible earthly kingdom, that this would be the real Jesus and not Satan. I am saying be careful with what you are doing and setting in your mind. I commented on a Chuck Missler video you posted to me a while back and I explained to you by going through the Bible that if you were to follow what that guy says about the end times then you will be falling right for the trap. You need to know that when Jesus actually comes we are called up to the air with him and his feet never touches the ground, the 1000 years is spent up in heaven (it is not on the earth), then and only then does the heavenly city come down to rest upon the New Earth.
I am saying, be careful of what you are setting up in your own mind to happen because at the moment your understanding is clearly in opposition to Revelation 19, 20 and 21. Refrain from using your 666 carbon theory and beasts mark theory, other than that you have my general approvaledit on 11-6-2012 by JesuitGarlic because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
Why would God send the Jews who reject him to go to the world and preached the message to come out of Babylon when they don't even follow Jesus???? If it doesn't make logical sense then your interpretation methods it likely wrong.
Obviously their is a wide spectrum of what constitutes 'faith', following His ways and each person's differing life circumstances. Every such factor is taken into account when determining who God accepts into the 'Book of Life' as well as the degree of heavenly rewards given to them. All these decisions need to be made before Jesus has His Second Coming right! After the second coming, one of the main things that God's people will do in the Heavenly city (before it comes down upon the earth at the end of the 1000 years) is to review all the decisions that God made concerning the investigative judgement of those how made it into heaven and those that didn't, examining each person's life record to see if God's judgements are just or not.