My little sister gets suspended for conspiracy theorizing...?

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

Typical Christian!
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Tequila rocks!

Oh, I don't mind the tequila... I just don't want to drink it with her!! LOL

Be happy to have one with you sometime!

Originally posted by Dookie Master
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

 

What about education? You could teach art.

Or History.

Just sayin.

Wouldn't drink with either of you, either. Wouldn't drink at all, actually. I don't ever plan to drink

I enjoyed the debating and arguing with you all, though. Seriously

God bless, may peace be with you

Shalom

OK really quick, am I the only one that got really creeped out by a member doing *hugs* all over the place? Ugh. The post that really made me want to nuke the internet said something along the lines of 'You make me feel SO good! Hugs!'

Originally posted by Domo1
OK really quick, am I the only one that got really creeped out by a member doing *hugs* all over the place? Ugh. The post that really made me want to nuke the internet said something along the lines of 'You make me feel SO good! Hugs!'

Either extremely juvenile and dim-witted.... or drunk
If they give hugs all around on here, they must have orgies on facebook!

reply to post by Annee


I disagree.

A child is able to see more than those who have had a lifetime of social manipulation.

If only more of us were like children in the way we view the world - perhaps then we'd have fewer "firm beliefs"

Originally posted by intrptr
My elementary era was in the 1960's. The article is true in every aspect including that you got it again when you got home. It was a different time.

Yah, the 1960's was a different time...

These weren't "beatings", they were called "spankings". People don't understand those times. It was common practice.

I also called it "spankings", but it's still beating students in my eyes. Teachers did spank students' butt, but teachers could also paddle students' hands as well, in the class room the teacher would say >>Come up here, boy...Put your hands on the table...

Yes, there are still schools that use paddling, but the parents have to sign a waiver

reply to post by Anunaki10

There you go. They still do it. This is kinda off topic so last one. I thought these were pertinent:








Conformity, control, punishment. Violence begets violence. You beat a kid, then what does he take away form that lesson? Intimidation? Payback? Using force as an alternative to working things out? Does the teacher care? Not if they use a paddle or any other threatening means to extort capitulation. Embarrasing the kids in front of their classmates, exiling them from class or school even. Telling on them to their parents. Physical abuse.

Its a lazy shallow way of dealing with trouble in the classroom. Not widely practiced anymore but still on the books in some schools to protect teachers and schools from lawsuits.

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It will not be the first time I have seen some very idealistic, youthful teachers come through to teach history. I think she should stick to art history though...

Originally posted by Dookie Master
reply to post by windword

 

It will not be the first time I have seen some very idealistic, youthful teachers come through to teach history. I think she should stick to art history though...

I happen to have a MA in Art History, I do not feel that she would be a good fit until she gets over her distrust of Academia, as Art History is -very much- standing on the shoulders of the giants before you.

reply to post by Furbs


She stated she enjoyed drawing and writing. I suggested she try education, maybe teaching art. Another poster suggested history, maybe because said poster saw that I was a history teacher. I commented in a jovial manner that she should try art history then. No offense to you or any of the other wonderful people that have a degree in art history.

Originally posted by Dookie Master
reply to post by Furbs

 

She stated she enjoyed drawing and writing. I suggested she try education, maybe teaching art. Another poster suggested history, maybe because said poster saw that I was a history teacher. I commented in a jovial manner that she should try art history then. No offense to you or any of the other wonderful people that have a degree in art history.

No offense taken, believe me.

I don't think the OP will be a good fit an -any- program until she can get away from what she thinks she has learned from the world already. Would she have any confidence in teachers that she thinks are brainwashed or lying? Probably not.

I would suggest she concern herself with getting an AA before deciding what program (if any) is right for her.

reply to post by Furbs


Indeed she does. When I suggested that she check into teaching it was tongue in cheek because she had such distrust for education.

Just a complete side question: are/were you an educator? I currently do not teach in a traditional setting. Here in the states we are on summer break and I am thinking about returning to the classroom. This negative of thinking about education in general makes me want to return to the classroom.

Originally posted by shoeshiner
What is wrong with some of you? A 10 year old kid is meant to run around and have fun. There is no way she can comprehend this stuff at that age. Kids can be smart, no doubt about it, but I remember how vulnerable I was as a kid to what people say. This is like calling your little sis to watch a porno with you

This is correct.

I didn't read all the posts in this long thread yet, but I wish to make my comment already, because the core of the issue has been danced around so much, without actually hitting it very well.

The core thing is that a human has STAGES of DEVELOPMENT.

A child develops in phases or stages, and for each stage, his/her brain/chakras/comprehension capabilities/consciousness is developing in a specific way. Thus, a child has certain interests at younger ages that change drastically when the next phase gets to full swing.

The same goes with the capabilities of thinking, reasoning, and processing information, understanding ethics, compassion and so forth.

A 10-year old child is not in the appropriate stage to learn about 'the big picture' yet. He/she should be learning things appropriate for their development phase.

Children are not philosophers for a reason - I'd say only after the year 18, a developing human starts having a natural interest for the deeper subjects (though the strong hormones usually steer him/her in other directions), and starts to possess the early-adult information processing abilities.

Of course the stages do not end at the year 18, but I'd say that's the time when it's relatively "safe" to start giving them more 'difficult' and 'deep' information - though some teenagers already learn about these things during puberty.

But the perspective one has for life (and everything) changes throughout one's whole life, and at thirty years old, a human may see how his 18-year old self was very narrow in his/her perspective and limited in his/her thinking. At the age 18, one can't see very far, compared to the age 30.

And time passes again, and with experience and wisdom gained.. once again, one looks back at his/her 30-year old self and thinks: "What a brat I was!", having again the ability to see everything from a wider, larger and more detailed and full perspective.

A 10-year old kid, no matter how 'wise beyond his/her years' or 'intelligent' she or he may be, is still not developed enough, as far as brain and the chakra systems are considered, to receive and fully comprehend the kind of (seemingly biased and untrustworthy) 'information' that is involved with freemasons, conspiracy theories, roman sun gods and the like.

She is simply not in the appropriate phase yet for such knowledge, even if presented correctly and with facts and wisdom.

It's like the mother in Dr. Phil (yes, I know, but this was a long time ago) who taught her young (maybe 6 years old or so) son about sex in gruesome detail and the exact, scientific terminology. The kid was just embarrassed and confused, and wasn't even really interested.

Phil's advice was that the kid, should he ask, should be told about that appropriately according to his age. For example, very young kids only need to know that babies come from a seed that the dad puts in the mom's belly, and that's pretty much it. No need to talk about sperm, penises, vaginas, ejaculations, menstruation and the like.

This same wisdom, in my humble opinion, should be applied to that 'little sister' situation. If you must, and if she really wants to know, just give her information APPROPRIATELY ACCORDING TO HER AGE (and developmental phase). You can use more generic things, and talk about it more broadly and in a more simple way. You don't have to say christmas is evil, you can just say that it's fun to also remember the actual Christ on christmas, and not only the santa claus. Constructive and 'positive spin' on things usually helps. You can even read what the Christ tried to teach us, instead of hating the pagans or being upset and angry about Christmas celebrating on some other day than Christ's birthday. Just for the record, christmas isn't unholy, and easter isn't evil - it's the christmas BUNNY that's evil (because it's a lie), and the SANTA that's unholy (as a contrast to the Christ, who is holy)

By the way, esoterically thinking, each developmental phase has something to do with a given/specific chakra - that's why they say that humans evolve spiritually in 7 year cycles - that's when the cycle of the seven main chakras proceeds to the next level before it starts over again. But if you teach 6th chakra information to a kid in the 3rd chakra phase.. well, it can actually even affect her energy development, so you are playing with fire here. You can actually damage your sister without realizing it! (Read about Kundalini and it's dangers, especially 'kundalini psychosis')

This is why they say that little knowledge is dangerous.. because it really is!

Some of you forget that most 10 year olds are very impressionable, especially when it comes to their older brothers or sisters. A 10 year old will believe without question many things just because they're told. It's not the same as leaning it for themselves.

My main problem with this is that no one has any real proof for half the "conspiracies" out there. I wouldn't be on ATS if I didn't think some of them are true, but SINCE being on ATS and other similar sites, I do see how so many people believe all sorts of things without much proof, but run more on emotion than anything else. Teaching THAT to a 10 year old = not good.

Originally posted by SpaceJockey1
reply to post by Murgatroid

 

Great add Murgatroid!

I didn't want to make my post too long, but you've covered another major area that I get hot under the collar about

I have a 9 and 11 yo in the public school system, and I make sure that they question things that they don't understand, and not to blindly just believe everything they are told at school. When home they can discuss what they are learning and expand with my knowledge to get a 'balanced' perspective

The school system is flawed. They believe everything they teach is correct and should never be challenged or questioned. Back when we was in school we was taught our furthest planet was Pluto. Now scientists changed their minds and say Pluto isn't a planet it's just a very big rock in orbit out there. It happens all the time like saying Milk is good, milk is bad it causes cancer, milk is good to drink, milk is bad. They can't make up their minds!

That's just outright not true. There have been many times I have gone through the textbook with classes and found mistakes and was very quick to tell them that textbooks aren't always right and sometimes we have to look at other sources. We usually follow up by doing internet searches, checking the library or asking people outside the school who are credible. We've found a lot of mistake that way and the kids get to write to the textbook publishers and let them know about the mistakes with the proof to back it up. This teaches the kids to make a logical argument about what is right or wrong and it helps them to learn to look at several sources for their information.

So don't, for one minute think that schools believe the textbooks are accepted beyond a shadow of a doubt, they don't.
... and the kids have to use proper grammar skills while doing it...

You get out of education what you put into it. If you didn't bother putting any effort into it, you're going to think it was a waste of time. Perhaps for you, it was, but that doesn't mean it was for others who actually put the effort in and got a good education as a result. It's all a matter of perspective.

You are NEVER too young to learn the truth...

The teacher is basing her actions off of personal beliefs... what's new...

I'd be proud of my sister...

What's funny is people say she is too young but yet I was forced to learn about Jesus and religion before I knew what it was really about...

Sounds hypocritical to me...

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX
Her teacher sometimes tells her "You're too young to know that stuff yet" (and yes, that's an exact quote. Apparently, learning is bad).

I agree with her teacher.

She is not really old enough to comprehend. She is just repeating what she is told.

Too young to learn the truth about our nation but not too young to have religious dogma pushed in her face???