My little sister gets suspended for conspiracy theorizing...?

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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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Not only this, but there are a lot of abusive people in the school system that work as teachers. During my years in school, I was witness to physical, mental, and emotional abuse. A lot of them bully their own students and have serious issues and a hatred for children. In some ways, I think that the school system is a glorified day care center.

Excellent. I saw my share of abusive teachers as well. People with control issues love it when they are in charge. Some love nothing better than to abuse their authority in the name of "teaching". In my day they got away with it too. All they had to do was claim the student was "out of control" and in a moment they were suspended. Teacher had the authority back then.




posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Sorry, that's the impression I got from your post.

It sounded as if she has picked up this from you guys and got in before you or your husband could say something about it.

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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Furbs
Thinking does not make one paranoid, however.. thinking someone is messing with your food before you eat it is textbook paranoia.

I find it cute how you took that out of context. He doesn't think somebody is intentionally messing with his food. He just wanted to know what kind of factory conditions could make something like that happen.

You need to try harder if you really want to derail the thread, shill



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Xaphan

Originally posted by Furbs
Thinking does not make one paranoid, however.. thinking someone is messing with your food before you eat it is textbook paranoia.

I find it cute how you took that out of context. He doesn't think somebody is intentionally messing with his food. He just wanted to know what kind of factory conditions could make something like that happen.

You need to try harder if you really want to derail the thread, shill


Seriously? 30+ pages and people are still calling the OP a male?



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr

A switch occurred while I was still young (that almost threw me for a loop) to what do they call it now: "see and say"? We knew it as, See Spot Run. Run Spot Run! Rote memorization of words was intended to replace phonetics. It was a disaster. I wonder how many kids can't read today as a result of that system?



Yes - different concepts have been introduced into the school system - - such as new math.

The school system my grandchildren are in - - several years ago went back to the old basics of phonics and basic math - - with some new math as well.

Did you check the dates used in the book? Deliberate Dumbing Down of America? She "blew the whistle" in 1980. That is 32 years ago. And its still only one person's opinion.


Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, former Senior Policy Advisor in the U.S. Department of Education, blew the whistle in the `80s on government activities withheld from the public. Her inside knowledge will help you protect your children from controversial methods and programs. In this book you will discover: www.deliberatedumbingdown.com...


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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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OP's gender is irrelevant.

What is relevant however is the fact that you're just a shill trying to derail this thread.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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Brainwashing was the first word that came into my head. You were a teenager telling your 6 year old sister about conspiracy's? That's where everything went wrong. Never in my life would I tell my 5 year old son about conspiracy's because it's my subjective opinion and I don't know if my theory's hold an once of truth so why would I put it in his head? It's the same thing as sending a little kid to church, they're going to become deluded very young and very easily. You shouldn't have conversations about conspiracy's unless you're talking to an intelligent adults not 6 year old wtf.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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Teach the little ones sure, just make sure to reinforce that there are 2 sides to each argument, and there are reasons to support both sides, and make sure not to forget that new information could ALWAYS refute existing information. And as for the school, they should be telling off the teacher for targeting a child just because they believe in something different. Sorry that there isn't anything you can really do though. They will always believe the teacher over the student.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by Annee
I have no idea what you just said.


I said, you can't be serious if you think it is normal to suspend a child from school for talking about conspiracies which someone else told her about because there are other ways like - sending her sister to the school psychologist, where they could talk to them and tell that sister to not talk about it anymore? And the principal needs to be fired and changed with a new one, as if there aren't stupid people who do so stupid things like this principal.

If you still didn't get it, that would be trolling, but TL DR: There are stupid people placed to be principals, some of them do completely ridiculous things to students, they need to be fired. Case closed.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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I said, you can't be serious if you think it is normal to suspend a child from school for talking about conspiracies which someone else told her about because there are other ways like - sending her sister to the school psychologist, where they could talk to them and tell that sister to not talk about it anymore?

How do you know that hasn't been done? There is little indication that the OP has any first hand knowledge about what has been happening at the school.
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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 02:19 AM
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I look at it this way. This teacher went to collage to earn a degree. Now this teacher has a 10 year old discounting
her beliefs and feels threatened! This is a natural reaction to a complex situation. You should try and explain this
to your sibling.
there are so many professionals that were taught from our fictional history books and feel that any threat to this
information is a threat to their profession! I find it insane that so many people are so closed minded, threatened
when anyone challenges their beliefs!
I believe myself lucky because I realized very early in life that this world is not always as plain as what most would have us believe. I have always had an open mind though there was never anything in particular that led me to believe this fact!
Though until I started uncovering certain truths, I had never anticipated how deep and serious the world of
propaganda was! That the truth can not just be read but must be deciphered from megbytes of internet materials
library books and independent documentaries! remember there is never any absolute truth and all is just factual
based on different perceptions which change with time!
Goodluck percieving yours!



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
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You actually think there is a deliberate attempt to dumb down children?

NO, I actually do not think there is a deliberate attempt to dumb down children...

I actually KNOW there is a deliberate attempt to dumb down children... and even if I did NOT know, your post would be ALL the proof we need that people have in fact been dumbed down.

According to Mr. Chadwickus, the truth about what is happening in public schools is just "plain dumb":


" ...the real purposes of American education: to brainwash our children"

The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America


WHY SMART PEOPLE OFTEN CAN'T SEE THE TRUTH

"Psychologists use the term Cognitive Dissonance to explain the brain’s inability to consider opposing evidence. Governments intentionally try to create this disorder in the population. That’s how they can get away with creating events like 9/11. Cognitive Dissonance is a form of government sponsored mind control." Source


Human beings tend to be unthinking conformists and can't imagine that society has been thoroughly corrupted. Monkey see; monkey do. And most of what monkey sees is degrading and often disgusting. Link


"So saying there is a deliberate attempt to dumb down kids is plain dumb."






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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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Heh, you should try just teaching and know some truth and survive 32 years of just being there. Ever so often I would drop a kernel of truth and then hear back from the parents whom were and had been brain wiped since they were kids themselves, and I know that as a fact for I was teaching third generation and more in that one school. Needless to say, I was marginalized by many for my knowing.

Then not only the political idiots would try and transform me, but the churches as well. At least they prayed for me for I was such a misfit as well as my daughter whom came back from sunday school when 6 years old and told me this, she never returned and now is an independent 42 year old teacher fighting the same battles in school as I did, completely frustrated and wanting out, but like I tell her, put up with the idiot's and get a retirement. Hang in there Son, stand your ground.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr
Excellent. I saw my share of abusive teachers as well. People with control issues love it when they are in charge. Some love nothing better than to abuse their authority in the name of "teaching". In my day they got away with it too. All they had to do was claim the student was "out of control" and in a moment they were suspended. Teacher had the authority back then.

Yah, they had the authority back then, and they still get away with it, another school girl sent home for NOT wearing a hoodie , www.abovetopsecret.com... , yah it's getting worse and worse...
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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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And with an attitude like yours to our youth, she'll never find out what the box is. Give kids some credit. they are the leaders of tomorrow. This ten year old could possibly be one of the one's that shatter the box. That is if they let her even see it. I can only imagine the way this child thinks now, WOW these theories must be correct or they woud'nt be trying to censor me..But I would suppose by your reply to my post is that only juniors or seniors are capable of complex thought and critical thinking skills.

Yea after 10 or 11 years of American Public Education she be as dumb as a box of rocks, and be able to repeat what was taught to her. Even if it's not the real truth. The only thing the American Public Schools teach our kids is..... How to be a Good Consumer, don't make waves, & don't rock the boat. And the Military needs you, to help save us all from the bad ole brown people, after the brown people, what color of the human rainbow is next?

Teach our kids reading, writing, math, science, and some social skills. They will figure the rest out on their own, we did. What makes todays youth any different than any of us? Wars & Occupations of other people's countries & a lie of epic proportions to remain there.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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That must be why I'm on ATS then...I'm in so much denial that I will seek out a conspiracy forum and challenge my beliefs and further my knowledge by partaking in and reading both sides of an argument.




posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by intrptr
Excellent. I saw my share of abusive teachers as well. People with control issues love it when they are in charge. Some love nothing better than to abuse their authority in the name of "teaching". In my day they got away with it too. All they had to do was claim the student was "out of control" and in a moment they were suspended. Teacher had the authority back then.

Yah, they had the authority back then, and they still get away with it, another school girl sent home for NOT wearing a hoodie , www.abovetopsecret.com... , yah it's getting worse and worse...

Unfreakinbelievable...

That link you posted about the principle? OMG. That was probably the one at our elementary school! When I read that he is being charged after all these years for paddling kids, I bout fell out my chair. The principle at our school... was just like that. I swear to God. I hope this isn't too off topic, I was going to bring it earlier.

In elementary school we had a principle who had several "paddles" hanging on the wall in his office. Any student (he preferred boys) could be called to the office from class by the "intercom".

"Such and Such--- report to the Principals office." We knew it was a paddling because he only issued "disciplinary" measures and the call to report to him personally (instead of just "report to the office") meant that so and so was in for it. We all knew it.

I was called once. And looking back, am sure he was a pedophile and sado masochistic on top of it. He would make kids wait in his office alone like a doctors visit, then he would come in and sit and (eewww, I swear to God) make you pull your pants down and lay across his lap. Then there would be a few minutes while he "adjusted himself". Then he would use the paddle he had selected to "discipline" you. It was the weirdest. When you are a kid you don't understand. Looking back I am at once horrified and bemused. What a sick F***, lol.

I got him back though. Later when I worked at a gas station he brought in his mustang for service and I put a bolt in his differential. Some time later he had an expensive "rear end R and R".

Your link just blew me away. I wonder if it's him. Oh, his name was "Mister" Clark.



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Xaphan
reply to post by Furbs
 

OP's gender is irrelevant.

What is relevant however is the fact that you're just a shill trying to derail this thread.


Wouldn't someone trying to derail the thread come in and post about things being off topic and calling other posters 'shills' instead of commenting on the topic of the thread?



posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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A Master's Degree or any degree for that matter simply means your a good little parrot. You remember and hand back exactly what is drummed into your brain, pass the tests for all the exams of the stuff our educational system fed into your brain and get a little piece of paper stating your a good little parrot.

And you don't know who Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt is??????? and consider yourself an authority on education.

I respectfully say you need to read, not the books your professors assigned you but some real stuff.

No, I have only two years of college in nursing (almost a 4.0 GPA in college and high school, could read at a third grade level my first day of first grade, read War and Peace at age 11)

Am currently doing paid research for a well known author and will have my name listed in his book.........how about you?


Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt is an American freelance writer and whistleblower who served as a Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education during the first term of U.S. President Ronald Reagan, and staff employee of the US State Department (South Africa, Belgium, South Korea).[1][2][3] She was born in 1930[4] and attended Dana Hall preparatory school and Katharine Gibbs College in New York City, where she studied business.[5] Iserbyt's father and grandfather were Yale University graduates and members of the Skull and Bones secret society.

She is known for writing the book The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. The book claims that changes gradually brought into the American public education system attempt to eliminate the influences of a child's parents (religion, morals, national patriotism), and mold the child into a member of the proletariat in preparation for a socialist-collectivist world of the future.[3] She alleges that these changes originated from plans formulated primarily by the Andrew Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Education and Rockefeller General Education Board, and details what she says are the psychological methods used to implement and effect the changes.[3]

In an interview[2] concerning secret societies and the elite agenda she disclosed that in the early 1980s she had a chance to meet with Norman Dodd who had been the chief investigator for the United States House Select Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations and Comparable Organizations commonly known as the B. Carroll Reece Committee. In the video she claims that Dodd discussed a 'network' of individuals including Carnegie who planned to bring about world peace by means of rapid changes in society. These changes would be brought about by involving the populace in various wars and military conflicts. She further claimed that Dodd had discussions with Rowan Gaither, the president of the Ford Foundation in which he revealed that directives from the President of the United States compelled foundations related to the Ford Foundation to direct their funding into bringing about the merger of the USA with the Soviet Union.[6][7][8] Source: en.wikipedia.org...


I've also met and spoken through various charity organizations many people if I listed, you would know - very credible people.

My life, if summerized would be a mixture of Oliver Twist (which I read at age 9) and Forrest Gump.

Having a degree doesn't make you smart.

Living life and going beyond what is "taught" makes you smart.

Some of the brightest people I know do not hold a college degree.

While I am not knocking a college degree, it only means you memorized material not necessarily thought deeply about what is actually going on.

Curious to know if you or your parents were/are in the military?
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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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A Master's Degree or any degree for that matter simply means your a good little parrot. You remember and hand back exactly what is drummed into your brain, pass the tests for all the exams of the stuff our educational system fed into your brain and get a little piece of paper stating your a good little parrot.


An accredited Master's Degree in any field requires original research. There is nothing parrotous about advanced degrees.





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