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My little sister gets suspended for conspiracy theorizing...?

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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 06:53 AM
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Not every thing is revolves around U.S., just to mentoin.




posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by Domo1
Well maybe you should. If she's too young to know when to keep things to herself, she's too young for you to be teaching her this stuff. If her guardian(s) disagree with what you're teaching you should stop. You sound incredibly immature, your sister is getting in trouble at school, and I think you told us this story to get accolades from conspiracy theorists because you're young and vain.

Teach her when she's older. You sound like an ultra conservative parent bitching that the school is uncomfortable with their child preaching in the classroom.


See I couldn't disagree more. I was raised to be confident and outspoken, it was a good thing in my home growing up to have an opinion. If my parents thought I was wrong they would explain why but they wouldn't instruct me to believe otherwise. What that left me with was a confidence in decision making and outspokenness that wasn't shared by many of my peers.

Obviously this little girl isn't mature, she's a kid. I got in trouble a lot when I was younger because I couldn't "keep things to myself" when a teacher told me something that I thought was bunk I told them as much, I always did it respectfully and in hindsight that probably made it more difficult on the teacher(s), it was probably more exasperating because I was actually using my mind to challenge my teacher instead of just making fart noises, and arguing with logic (even the logic of an 8 year old) is always harder than arguing with a clown.

So what if she can't keep it to herself, she's thinking for herself and as explained by the OP she's doing it respectfully. I wish more little girls were smart and outspoken instead of the superficial sheep America's 3rd graders are becoming.

As far as the OP's level of maturity... I won't comment. The post does seem to seek attention, but they all do.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by shoeshiner
This is like calling your little SIS to watch o PORNO
with you


To get info about conspiracy theories is not the same as watching porno. Conspiracy theories are not the same as porno...
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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:03 AM
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First, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to try to educate your sister. It's important that people learn early on, because oftentimes when they grow up it gets harder and harder for them to question reality, as they've already put too much energy into their own distorted beliefs based on what other people want them to think. It's very important for her to know how to have an open mind and ask questions. I know that when I was in public school, I did not learn 1 useful, beneficial thing. Not a single thing. I might as well have just stayed home and ran around outside every day.
Second, especially as she enters high school, you're going to realize that you're in a battle for her mind. I strongly agree with others here who say that public school isn't about education, it's about indoctrination and brainwashing. In my own experiences, many of the teachers and faculty will absolutely not tolerate any kind of critical thought outside of their own teaching. I was always very intelligent, which became obvious as I was in school. I didn't belong with the other kids my age and I didn't try to fit in. As such, I wasn't one of the "normal" kids and was singled out. I was literally put in a classroom with kids who were mentally challenged, where the teacher would sit next to me and antagonize me and try to get me to say things that would get me in trouble. I specifically remember her trying to get me to "admit" that I wanted to blow up the school, just so she could run to the administration and cause drama and get me arrested solely for her own amusement. Another time a teacher actually made me leave her class at the beginning for no other reason than because she didn't want me there. The actual good, nice teachers I knew of there have since either been fired or quit, because they see what's going on and realize they don't want any part of it.

Don't let ANYBODY tell your sister that she shouldn't be thinking or questioning, EVER. Make sure she understands that it is PERFECTLY OK to do so and that there is nothing wrong with anyone who does. If she gets in trouble for asking questions, reward her. You never know, she might grow up to be a great social leader. And if you can go to the extent of seeing that she's homeschooled or cyberschooled, that would in my opinion be much preferable to the shameful public education system we have in place.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:14 AM
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Maybe you should teach her to let her do her own research. The statue of liberty does not look like the Roman sun god at all. It is modelled after Selene II .

www.mlahanas.de...

Most noticably the identical chin area.

And how who donated the statue is a conspiracy theory I am not sure.

EDIT: Okay maybe he stole the crown part from Sol Invictus, but the face is definately that of Selene II .
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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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Ever consider that in your quest to enlighten and turn your sister into some kind of experiment you are denying her part of her childhood? You got to enjoy christmas and easter before your eyes were open.. let her consider these things when the time comes. Right now she is buying them because you tell her she might think some of it is complete b.s. when she is old enough to weigh it out herself. You may decide that too.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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I do feel children nowdays are not taught to think, that does need to change and if family members are teaching that away from school, it can only be a bonus.

But, children need to feel safe and protected, they can not develop properly if they feel their water may be tainted, or their food is unhealthy or dangerous in some way.

I remember living through the 70's feeling a constant threat of russian missiles about to destroy us, Not a pleasant experience. My brother taught me, not my parents, I would have been been better off in ignorance.

I had some conversations with my children, that school and family felt were inapropriate, But they were my children, I brought them up the way I chose. If their half sisters had been teaching them conspiricey theorys, I would have hit the roof.

Teach them to think and question, but most importantly, teach them to find the answers themselves.

14 or 15 is perhaps a more suitable age to introduce this stuff, 7 is far to young,



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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Please don't encourage OP. What OP is doing is selfish and ignorant and not only is OP turnning his sister into an experiment, but is also operating under the notion that he himself know what he is talking about and isn't just packing his kid sisters brain full of ignorance. There is a better education than the one the public school gives but its not in conspiracy theory. Its teaching history of countries and people beyondour borders. Unfortunately OP only knows a bunch of nonsense that was novelty enough to remember.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by shoeshiner
We have all the right to judge.
According to "A course in miracles"...


A Course in Miracles” was a CIA manipulation device

It was an experiment orchestrated by the CIA/US government.

Many were DAMAGED by it.

The goal of these torture techniques is the erasure of personality and identity for the express purpose of then creating a new identity of a new brainwashed person.

This is EXACTLY the same goal as the Course in Miracles.
Guantanimo is patterned after chinese communist prisoner camps.
A Course in Miacles is patterned after milder chinese communist reeducation couses.

See the chinese used many different levels and intensities of mind controll in their attempt to create the perfect zombie society.

A Course In Miracles is absolutely and without a doubt a CIA/Corperate run mind controll project.

"this is the very nature of a course in miracles. 100% fully contradictory nonsense that just sends your brain into la la land. A course in Miracles also contains and makes big use of a very dangerous neo-freudian concept called desymbolization. basically reality becomes a metaphor or a symbol and in turn symbols and metaphor become reality. You can see a bit of it in the above bizarre statement. reality is flipped on its ear and becomes fantasy. Watch an interview with charles manson and you hear alot of the same thing.
people who are experiencing desymbolization can be quite dangerous because they become so delusional and mentally ill."

A Course In Miracles is a CIA mind control project


Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
I studied this book and used its principles and ended up in a hell which continues to this day,what it does not prepare you for is that the bulk of this planets spirit world and many of its secret societies do not tolerate humans developing higher order spirital powers,I sent the book to the dump and regret the day I ever read it.


"A course in miracles: Wikipedia says that it was written by William Thetford.
This guy headed the CIA MK ULTRA experiments! (Brainwashing)
Some that have gotten heavy into this course have went through some
very scary changes and some have mysteriously died. This was a common
occurrence with solders that participated in MKULTRA experiments." LINK




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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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You don't see a huge difference between art and painting and conspiracy theories which are most likely not true?



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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She is not really old enough to comprehend. She is just repeating what she is told.


MUST disagree with this idea completely. "They" have always said that children do not understand the concept of death before the age of 7. I was in Kindergarten (5 y.o.) when Kennedy was murdered in Dallas. I understood and cried, even at that early age.

We adults always think we have things all figured out, then we find we are disastrously wrong. This has happened many times in history.

My understanding is that children understand more than we do. Why? Because they understand without ego. Perhaps we should learn from the little ones who have not been corrupted by moronic adults.

What say you?
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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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I believe the appropriate manner in which to explain my understanding of this is to inform of a story of a similar situation that occurred with me.

For a class I was to do a four to five page paper, no problems, and the topic was of our choice. So I went along with it and did the paper, but chose for once to do a topic I actually cared about, portrayal of homosexuals. Anyways, I completed the paper had several people look over it, but because of the teacher hating homosexuals, failed me on that paper, and when questioned about it, she stated that the papers that were graded were all thrown away afterwards, so she covered up her tracks.

I see that the girl is learning valuable information that will be useful in her future, and she should keep it up. Do not let the teacher's behavior threaten that, to the contrary, have the girl expand herself. Do it more now, this was merely a feeble attempt at fear mongering, if anything, prove that the girl will not quit.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by Ittabena
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She is not really old enough to comprehend. She is just repeating what she is told.


MUST disagree with this idea completely. "They" have always said that children do not understand the concept of death before the age of 7. I was in Kindergarten (5 y.o.) when Kennedy was murdered in Dallas. I understood and cried, even at that early age.

We adults always think we have things all figured out, then we find we are disastrously wrong. This has happened many times in history.

My understanding is that children understand more than we do. Why? Because they understand without ego. Perhaps we should learn from the little ones who have not been corrupted by moronic adults.

What say you?


Well, at least there is SOME sanity here! This post is absolutely correct. What has me so puzzled is that so many others can NOT see this. I am burned out trying to explain this... SIGH...



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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As a teenager, who was a kid and remembers it, I understand exactly what you meant. I knew what 9/11 was, I knew what the invasion meant, I even knew and understood the death and such of the atomic bomb, and researched it because to me it was amazing turning point of American technology, though my parents never even spoke about the bomb, I learned of it from the internet.

I agree completely though, children understand more because they possess nothing to corrupt them.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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It doesn't sound like your sister knows the difference between a theory in which the hypotheses are not highly supported by evidence (like the one about the freemasons building the Statue of Liberty) and fact. You made her believe that that was a fact. But maybe you don't know the difference either.
Second, I think the wisest thing to do is to teach her that what she learns in school, that generally accepted knowledge is oftentimes inaccurate--instead of filling that space with your own hypotheses. That's what keeping an open mind is all about. You just did the opposite, when you were meant to let her find out on her own.
Her suspension is a good wake-up call for you but you probably won't take it seriously.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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This is his sister, who's to tell him he can't educate her about american history or different view points on various subjects. (As long as they are age appropriate of course) If anything he is teaching her to have an open mind and consider things from different angles, instead of just blindly accepting what you are told, like the majority of people are raised to do from an early age. How is this a bad thing? The older a person becomes, the harder the "wall" of their personal beliefs becomes, and things that are counter to their culture or beliefs/belief system become harder and harder for said person to comprehend. I mean for anything, like if someone grew up in a racist family surrounded by a racist society, for example. It would be much easier to try to show them different views on race at age 10, then at age 20, when it might just be too late as they have already built up a "wall" surrounding their beliefs. One thing also is that in our sick society nowadays, we intimidate one an other into believing what we personally believe, whether that is right or wrong. Or at the very least, this is a common occurrence. So I think that the OP if anything is teaching his little sister to not be scared to have a different opinion / belief / idea than the majority, and for that I say you go OP!
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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
Ever consider that in your quest to enlighten and turn your sister into some kind of experiment you are denying her part of her childhood? You got to enjoy christmas and easter before your eyes were open.. let her consider these things when the time comes. Right now she is buying them because you tell her she might think some of it is complete b.s. when she is old enough to weigh it out herself. You may decide that too.


Very wise words indeed.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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Please, let the poor kid enjoy her innocence a little longer before telling her it's all for #.

There will always be liars and their lies, it's a fact of life that she'll learn soon enough. Responsible parents and siblings would do well to allow a child the fantasy of peace and stability while it's sheltered existence permits it - it's got it's whole life thereafter to stare into the abyss.

Sure, the way the teacher handled this was pretty pathetic and says much about her own short-comings - she doesn't cope well with her fragile worldview being tampered with is seems; so much so that even a child can make her overreact. She should have entertained the child's questions and suggested alternative view, such as her own, rather than the 'it's my way or the highway' approach.

However, the teachers shortcomings do not negate the fact that it's enteiley likely that your good intentions are depriving the child of the only sanctuary she'll ever have from these uncomfortable truths and possiblilties about our world - her Childhood.

Please reconsider your impulse to open her mind so early - she'll still be your sister in a few years and though it may not be as easy to open her mind in a few years, you can take solace and comfort that she had a happy beginning free of the worries you now have. Be careful that in your effort to shield her from the dogmas of society that you yourself do not become dogmatic about doing this.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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No. That's not what being open-minded means. He's replacing someone's ideas of reality with his own and he's not a fountain of knowledge, he's still learning himself. Like everyone else.



posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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You Sir is a *ss. I'm all for spreading the truth. i have shown my kids as well and talked to my kids about this stuff. But i knew to wait till they was at-lest 14 -17 so they can actually understand it. you have to wait till they are old enough to understand it. your going to have that kid have so many walls up by the time she/he is teenager. she/he will not know what way is up or what to even believe. you ever seen a kid exposed to sex at a early age? it really messes with there head and for a long long time. this is the same boat with a different name. I know if i seen somebody trying to teach my kid at the age of 6-7 this kind of stuff i would have smacked the crap out of you. let alone she is going to have this running in her head when she hits puberty her mind is going to go wacko. I do understand you was only 14 when you started doing this even at the age of 14 u need to be shown in the right way teaching a 6-8 year old this is not the right way. Its a shame she got this on her school record from you it would be more justified to me if they keeped her in school and put you in lockup for about 2-3 days . your not the parent dont try to be. if the parents request that you dont do that to there kid then dont. your on ATS talking about rights as you take away your parents rights on what should be thought to there kid. im really not trying to attack you but you have really crossed a few lines with me




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