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Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
Originally posted by RicoMarston
i see no evidence of an unseen hand guiding things.
Can you see the source of your own thoughts?
If not, then isn't your thoughts from an unseen source?
What causes them?
Can you even name the source without first having the thought of it's name?
Originally posted by Sol23
I never understood that. If you cant see where your own thoughts come from then it must be coming from an all mighty being. That just seems to continent to give God credit for that. Everything that you can not witness sensually can not always fall to God.
Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
Originally posted by Sol23
I never understood that. If you cant see where your own thoughts come from then it must be coming from an all mighty being. That just seems to continent to give God credit for that. Everything that you can not witness sensually can not always fall to God.
Everything IS God.
Anything less than everything is an Idol.
Originally posted by Sol23
There is always a human factor that should be accounted for.
Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
Originally posted by Sol23
There is always a human factor that should be accounted for.
I would love to consider this human factor.
Could you please articulate clearly what it is to be human in a way that all 7 billion plus "humans" on the planet would agree?
Originally posted by AaronWilson
Its what makes our neocortex dominated brain the most powerful in the world. We have choice, something most animals do not. Concious choice.
Originally posted by AaronWilson
I can choose not to beleive in god and poof, god does not exist. I can choose to beleive in the government, poof, my beleif in the government increases.
Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
I have never been any other animal, thus I do not know that they do not contemplate choices. Have you personally been something other than yourself that you would know they do not have choices to contemplate?
Originally posted by Sol23
What it is to be human is not 1 answer. It is like asking the meaning of life.
By human factor I mean when a person drinks alot they become impaired. When they become impaired they make decisions they normally would not. in turn they decide to drive which leads to them hitting and killing someone.
You will have people who say it must have been time for that person to die and that God called them up to heaven.
Can it not just be that it was human error that caused a chain reaction of events that lead to a tragic end?edit on 9-6-2012 by Sol23 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Sol23
Science studies animals to see if they can make choices by setting up experiments.
Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
Originally posted by Sol23
What it is to be human is not 1 answer. It is like asking the meaning of life.
By human factor I mean when a person drinks alot they become impaired. When they become impaired they make decisions they normally would not. in turn they decide to drive which leads to them hitting and killing someone.
You will have people who say it must have been time for that person to die and that God called them up to heaven.
Can it not just be that it was human error that caused a chain reaction of events that lead to a tragic end?edit on 9-6-2012 by Sol23 because: (no reason given)
So, where did the desire come from to drink?
The same place your desire to converse with me comes from.
Are you responsible for the consequences of this conversation?
Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
Originally posted by Sol23
What it is to be human is not 1 answer. It is like asking the meaning of life.
By human factor I mean when a person drinks alot they become impaired. When they become impaired they make decisions they normally would not. in turn they decide to drive which leads to them hitting and killing someone.
You will have people who say it must have been time for that person to die and that God called them up to heaven.
Can it not just be that it was human error that caused a chain reaction of events that lead to a tragic end?edit on 9-6-2012 by Sol23 because: (no reason given)
So, where did the desire come from to drink?
The same place your desire to converse with me comes from.
Are you responsible for the consequences of this conversation?
Originally posted by Sol23
The desire to drink comes from another action. Everything is a chain reaction with no end domino in sight. Maybe the person had a bad day. They still had the choice of what to do. So does them choosing the wrong choice the one that ends in tragedy make it the devils work?
Originally posted by Sol23
The desire to converse with you come from the fact that I wanted to debate with you. There was no force that told me to click the reply button.
Originally posted by Sol23
Yes I am responsible for the consequences of this conversations. Because I am a human being who makes rational decisions.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by jhill76
What you call god is what I call intuition and coincidence.
I'm sorry but I can't attest to having everything good in my life be the result of a single parent who writes books.
It just does not fly.
I respect you and your faith though, sometimes I wish I had faith, it would probably be a nice thinkg. Unfortunetly organized religion is a tool of control.
Personal religion is great, but most people don't know the difference between the two.
~Tenth
Originally posted by jiggerj
Do we have to respect the rights of people that wish to remain uneducated, uninformed, and just downright stupid? Do we have to respect those that are naive to the point of sounding brain damaged?
Originally posted by jiggerj
Why is it not okay to say, "Hey, wake up! You are spreading misinformation and contributing to the dumbing down of humanity!"?
Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
Originally posted by jiggerj
Do we have to respect the rights of people that wish to remain uneducated, uninformed, and just downright stupid? Do we have to respect those that are naive to the point of sounding brain damaged?
We do not have to perse. However, I will respect you nonetheless.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Why is it not okay to say, "Hey, wake up! You are spreading misinformation and contributing to the dumbing down of humanity!"?
Because you would not believe me!
Originally posted by jiggerj
Have to admit you made me laugh. Now use that quick mind of yours to come back to reality!
Originally posted by TheHolyGhost
Originally posted by jiggerj
Have to admit you made me laugh. Now use that quick mind of yours to come back to reality!
Thank you for seeing the intended humor.
Now to come back to reality.
Please describe it in a way that I will find it.