The worst parts of Christianity are the ones that aren't in it!

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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Religions, just like cultures, change and even, dare I say, evolve. Therefore it's really not surprising that a lot of christianity today has almost no resemblance to what the religion use to be about. Look at all the things that Christians today believe are proper christian beliefs, and that they try oppress people who don't share these heretical beliefs:

American exceptionalism, military worship, capitalism, worship of wealth and wealthy people, anti-education, rebellion against legitimate government, justification of torture, racism (OK that one's been around forever), elevating sports as a part of "christian living", predjudice against people who live in cities, anti-abortion (not mentioned in the bible), anti-media, anti science, anti-drugs (not in the bible), anti polygamy (which is accepted in the bible), anti facial hair (which goes agains the bible), and many more.

It seems like there is a lot of hate, predjudice, and violence in christianity today which isn't even really part of christianity. Mabye if they would give up all this immorality and go back to being humble and caring they
would gain more respect.




posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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The ones you have to watch are the religions that spend billions lobbying that Muslim's are terrorists.

They occupy your threads just as effectively. Shamelessness, and a continual reference that they were just at temple, often intertwine their prose.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Interesting viewpoint, but I am not personally seeing anything of what you say is happening...

What I see is a lot of anti Christians out 'n about trashing Christians and trying to say that what some Christian, or group of Christians did this and that bad things, when those things are actually done by just some people calling themselves Christians, but are actually not Christians..

A Christian is defined by his/her actions... If those actions and what they preach are not really Christian, then THEY are not Christian..

Don't you see the real goal here is to trash Christianity by lumping the actions of many non Christians, by telling the whole world that it is Christians doing this, or that, and by doing that they think or hope it paints Christianity as bad..

Don't fall for this deception, because that is really what it is, just a sad deception.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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You're confusing Christianity with American Christianity. Most Americans identify as Christian, but that doesn't mean the follow true Christianity. True Christianity is a beautiful teaching of peace and kindness from a truly enlightened being.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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I agree with 98% of what you said. However, do you believe that by telling someone of a certain faith that they are wrong will help matters? It just makes them plant their feet further into the ground that they are already on!

Faith and religion are more dangerous than politics believe it or not. Do not most religions, teach that there will be those who doubt? You just helped to reaffirm their faith and accomplished nothing! I am not personally coming down on you for what you said, but don't you see that attacks on a persons faith just seems to make them adhere to it that much stronger?

I could care less, whether you worship the blue rock setting in your back yard. Doesn't bother me a bit, however, I draw the line when a persons religious beliefs are pushed upon me thru government laws etc. etc.

EDIT, I re read you post and perhaps I jumped on you a little more than appropriate, my statements still stand for others though who seem to find a purpose in life by attacking others religious beliefs.

I see threads every day, trying to make different religions look bad and honestly, they make me sick! Attacking a person does nothing but put them on the defensive. No matter what your intentions are, be it good or bad, most likely they grew up with that belief and there isn't a damn thing you as an individual or group can do to change that belief!

Just an example for you. I was brought up Catholic, joined the military and got involved with the Southern Baptists, and now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I do my own thing. I don't belong to ANY organized religion and I have my own relationship with whatever God might be out there by just trying to treat my fellow human beings as I would want them to treat me!

I am sorry my friend, but questioning a persons beliefs is just a poorly veiled attempt at trying to attack them. I might not agree with a persons faith, but it doesn't matter to me. They will have to answer or maybe not. I judge every man/woman by their character. Their beliefs and religion, means nothing to me, because it is none of my concern....
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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by CB328
anti-drugs (not in the bible)



"By studying the original Greek text we find that the use of drugs is mentioned four times in the New Testament. The Word ''sorcerers" in Rev. 21:8 and 22:15 and "sorceries" found in Rev.9:21 and 18:23 are all derived from the original Greek word "pharmakon". '

"We read in Rev. 22:15: "For without are dogs and sorcerers, and whore mongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

"Whatever "sorcery" is, it certainly keeps pretty bad company, doesn't it? Now we read in Rev. 18:23: "Thy merchants were the great men of the earth, for by thy sorceries were all nations delivered".

Strong's concordance lists the word "sorcery" as: #1—a drug i.e. a spell-giving potion #2—a druggist or pharmacist #3 — a poisoner.

"Isn't that amazing. A pharmacist today has the same Greek title that he had at the time the New Testament was written nearly 2000 years ago, and he is still doing the same thing — dealing in poisonous drugs!

"The Bible says that "sorcery", or the use of poisonous drugs, has deceived all nations. All nations practice sorcery through the use of drugs, but they are deceived into thinking it's right. If a person is deceived, he won't know he is deceived, now will he?

"When I first became aware of it, my reaction was to deny it. Surely the word must have changed meaning. I looked in Webster's 2nd Collegiate Dictionary published in 1980 under the word "pharmaceutical" and I could scarcely believe my eyes when the definition read: "pharmaceutical"—the practice of witchcraft or the use of poison.

Source



Jesus NEVER used drugs, although we know that some types of drugs were available in His time. When Jesus was on the Cross, He was offered a type of drug to ease His pain, but He refused it.
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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by CB328

It seems like there is a lot of hate, predjudice, and violence in christianity today which isn't even really part of christianity. Mabye if they would give up all this immorality and go back to being humble and caring they
would gain more respect.


Do you think that I hate the woman who has an abortion, or is it that I grieve the practice of murdering life? Apparently you cannot tell the difference because you have bought the societal message that is being rammed down your throat that says anyone who doesn't agree with sin is hateful or prejudice. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. But words are effective on the Godless ones who have no absolute morality, it herds them just as the elites want. One mention of " bigot" and they scurry to conform. A Christian on the other hand has been taught to bless you yet stand firm. Why? God doesn't "evolve" - He's the same today as yesterday. Only you have changed my friend, accepting the beast's definitions of love and tolerance which has only led to prisons overflowing, thousands of baby deaths per day, crime, murder, child abductions, no go zones in many cities, underage pregnancies, broken families, drug addicts, teen suicides, porn addicts etc etc. The beast fruits are death and evil, God's fruits are life and good. I pray that you begin to judge fruits and realise that our collective morality has produced what millions are suffering. And yet you want to fight for it. Why? Can you not see the time in which you live, when good has been relabelled as "evil" and when evil is called "good"? The Holy Spirit affirms that the last generation will reject truth for lies and FIGHT FOR IT.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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Hi,
Christianity was usurped by Catholicism...

Muslim usurped by Islam...

Zionism usurped Judaism.

Who has the most toys?



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by CB328
anti-abortion (not mentioned in the bible)

Four year old met his mother’s miscarried child in Heaven



"Colton, still 4 years old, told his mother “you had a baby die in your tummy didn’t you”, which completely shocked them both because they had never told him about their miscarriage. They asked him how he knew and he said that he met his sister in Heaven and she told him what happened."

"Well he’s 7 years old now and it took a couple of years for his parents to really understand what happened, but when Colton Burpo was four years he was having surgery in the hospital for a burst appendix. While he was in surgery he apparently had some sort of out of body experience and could see what his parents were doing. He witnessed that his dad was praying and his mom on her cellphone. Both parents say they have no clue how he knew that, but that it’s absolutely true. And the story just gets more interesting from there.

Apparently during the same surgery Colton went to Heaven where he recounts how he met his grandfather who he had never known, who he later recognized in photos. The interesting thing is that he didn’t recognize photos of his grandfather as an old man with glasses, which is how everyone knew him, but rather as a young man. Colton’s father literally had go find a photo of ‘Pop’ as a young man before Colton was able to recognize him. Now that’s pretty wild.

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"In 1988, evangelist Jesse Duplantis was taken up into Heaven. While he was there, he saw a multitude of small children, singing and praising God as they played little harps. When he asked the angel who had brought him there who they were, he was told they were the children the earth did not want. As Duplantis watched these children, who appeared to be from three to ten years old, he realized that they were children who had been lost to abortion. The angel explained to him that these children longed to see their mothers come to Heaven and be reunited with them."

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CAUGHT UP TO THE INFANTS' PARADISE

"This dome," said my guide, "is the place where all infants from earth are gathered for instruction. The outer buildings are the nurseries where they are first brought, to be nourished by their guardian angel."

"Whenever an infant dies on earth, the guardian angel who brings it here
considers all of its abilities and places it with others of similar ability. According to its
artistic, scientific or social abilities, each is given a home best suited to the development
of its gifts."

Nine Days in Heaven: The Vision of Marietta Davis: Dennis Prince, Nolene Prince Link


"I believe all she says is true. (Marietta Davis) I too was able to see where the infants are. Everything she described was as I saw it. But I saw and was told more specifically they were all the babies that were born and died, and miscarriages and abortions. I was only allowed in that one room, I was not allowed to travel around like she was. When I was there, I was at home. That is where we belong. Make every effort to get there."

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In heaven, children are there, all the ones who died young, in childbirth, or were aborted.
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Abortion by a Different Name

The truth is it does not matter what you call a thing, but rather what it is. To a degree this is true. Things are what they are, whether we call them something different or not. To another degree it is not true, because what we call things is able to change the perception of them.

Another area where semantics is played is in the discussion of abortion. It sounds less onerous then I’m having an abortion and choosing which child in my womb I want to keep. Or I’ve decided to kill one of my children today. Changing the names doesn’t change the act. Just like calling a rose by a different name doesn’t change the rose. Calling abortion by a different name doesn’t change what has occurred.

When it comes to abortion, let’s understand what it is. It is taking a life of another. No matter the name it is horrific.

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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by CB328

It seems like there is a lot of hate, predjudice, and violence in christianity today which isn't even really part of christianity.


You should read bible again...i'll give you some examples:

Deuteronomy 20:13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword

Psalm 137:8-9 daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock

Numbers 31:17-18 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

really loving stuff!



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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American exceptionalism...blah, blah, blah...and many more.





Holy amateur generalization...


You give a bad name to those that attack organized religion...


Next time you want to tear into an ideology, try and understand it a little better...





posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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words are effective on the Godless ones who have no absolute morality, it herds them just as the elites want


This is really sad- it is you Christians who are being led and deceived by the elites, even against tenets of your own religion but you are too blind to see it. You guys make great sheep (and cannon fodder) for them.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by CB328



words are effective on the Godless ones who have no absolute morality, it herds them just as the elites want


You guys make great sheep (and cannon fodder) for them.


Hi,
So, what separates you from me?
Take your choir to another church, we know that hymn.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by CB328
Religions, just like cultures, change and even, dare I say, evolve. Therefore it's really not surprising that a lot of christianity today has almost no resemblance to what the religion use to be about. Look at all the things that Christians today believe are proper christian beliefs, and that they try oppress people who don't share these heretical beliefs:

American exceptionalism, military worship, capitalism, worship of wealth and wealthy people, anti-education, rebellion against legitimate government, justification of torture, racism (OK that one's been around forever), elevating sports as a part of "christian living", predjudice against people who live in cities, anti-abortion (not mentioned in the bible), anti-media, anti science, anti-drugs (not in the bible), anti polygamy (which is accepted in the bible), anti facial hair (which goes agains the bible), and many more.

It seems like there is a lot of hate, predjudice, and violence in christianity today which isn't even really part of christianity. Mabye if they would give up all this immorality and go back to being humble and caring they
would gain more respect.


I would go as far to say all "blind faiths" are BUNK.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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So, what separates you from me?


I haven't let my beliefs be completely infiltrated and radically changed by corrupt special interests, and if I did I wouldn't be to blind to see it.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by CB328



So, what separates you from me?


I haven't let my beliefs be completely infiltrated and radically changed by corrupt special interests, and if I did I wouldn't be to blind to see it.

Hi,
That's an emotionally charged perspective,
therefore you can win your argument.

Despite sending language you do not receive.
You've never been indoctrinated?

How did you learn your abc's and 123's?



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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A,B,C's aren't an ideology, at least not to sane people.
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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by CB328
This is really sad- it is you Christians who are being led and deceived by the elites, even against tenets of your own religion but you are too blind to see it.



The elite created religion as a Mind Control tool with a hidden agenda that aims to blind and misguide you away from the truth. Religion is the original programming and mind-control mechanism designed to make you hate God and want nothing to do with Him. ALL pagan religions of mass destruction are controlled by Satan!


Religion was manufactured long ago by men who wished to control the masses. Different religions were created in different places to suit the needs and beliefs of the area, and it was intended to serve as a crutch. The leaders of these regions used religion to enslave their people, and religion continues to be such an evil. In essence, religion was the first form of mind control.

When the Illuminati was formed, it was evident that religion was something that could keep the masses dumb and ignorant to what was really happening around them. Is this not what has happened? Because of religion, the Illuminati has been able to work in secret for many, many years.

The gods that are relative to each religion are continually manufactured in the minds of those that are enslaved. The indoctrination of the masses by religion has led to a brainwashed society that is easy for the Illuminati to take control of. Every major religion in the world has been infiltrated by the Illuminati. A group that calls themselves Light Feet has installed Illuminati members in every major religion of the world. The purpose of these Light Feet is to ensure that the masses are controlled by their respective religion. Source


Satan's most effective method of seducing men and women to yield to his control over them is via a religious system. Link


"Today the religions of the world remain a major tool of the Illuminati agenda. They maintain the climate of unquestioning, unthinking, ignorance, and their pseudo-morality provides a veil of hypocrisy, behind which the most sickening abuse of children can be hidden."

"Some of the most famous church "leaders" and evangelists on the planet are Illuminati operatives who use religion to manipulate and brain-wash their followers while engaging in Satanic rituals that beggar belief."

"But the mass of unthinking followers in any religion are merely the fodder and the screen behind which the real business goes on." Link



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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Like Freeman says....Its the satanification of america.

Make you participate in the darkest of occult ritual by proxy and not even know you are doing it.
I get alot of pops in objects around the house when Im hitting the target of truth.....vibrational entities get ornrey and pissed when you know whats going on.

Whether you hate jesus, call it all fairy tale, or pull out your Bible say you love jesus and start condemning with it, you are a participant. Conform or be Cast Out is the way of Satan.

If you were to really know the truth about vibrational frequencies and how they deliver it to you.. youd prob freak out pretty bad.

But hey !!!! at least you can snicker and ease your mind a little with the tinfoil hat, black helicopter, conspiracy whacko..take your meds, seek help jokes etc Insult peoples grammar, communication of ideas, and reasoning skills etc (all coping mechanisms) because like I said...without it youd freak out pretty bad.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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he was,,



Afghanistan

www2.macleans.ca...





reply posted on 8-6-2012 @ 07:27 PM by BobAthome

Originally posted by BobAthome
A lot of things should be remembered,,

a lot of this,,,

the-healing-begins,, stuff cant hurt,,

www2.macleans.ca...

i agree no guns in the Garden.




the Lion of Panjshir.

Afghanistan’s ambassador to Spain.

Of all the conquerors that we have had, we loved Alexander the Great

Almost 100 years ago, Amanullah Khan, another Afghan king, hanged Khalili’s grandfather.

wow nice lineage,,,

why didnt the Secretary of State,, Hillary Clinton
ever get her picture with this guy??

Maybe she did,,
ya i like that guy for some reason.

Apparently,,she didnt see all the candidates,,
Karazi vs this guy?

no brainer.





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