Originally posted by terry456
So is the queen of England come from a dynasty related to jesus. Its prob all bullsh=t but cool story. Could there be any fact in this.
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I suggest you research the Windsor family, their origins and their rise to power..as to my knowledge and if you accept scripture as factual truth,
they are not blood related to either the tribe of Jacob or the line of David pre or post the advent of Jesus Christ.
Also research more about the Templar's themselves; being the early military wing of the Roman pontificate prior to an internal war with the Jesuits -
who were also a military wing of the pontificate. If ever a group was ' in bed' with the early Roman Church it was them. In today's terms the
Templar's, for all the romantic notions people have, were more like the US army..who were vying for power inside the Vatican with the MOSSAD of their
day, the Jesuits. Spys v Grunts....while some scholars and people speculate that the Templar's figured out the lie beneath the Roman churches basis
for power and that's why they went to war with the Jesuits...ultimately that is just speculation..as no documents survive to prove or disprove
otherwise so it makes for good fictional and speculative works.
To my research, and much like the later accounts ( non gospel) of Christs 'mysteries' that can be traced back to the same sources..much of the
Merovingian dynasty legends and the Rose legends ( Mary M) can be traced quite easily to rituals of Isis/Innana/Astaroth - Sumerian and Egyptian
Goddess cults and associated mystery schools and importantly, the timing of the rise of these myths in the Christian church can be traced to the
Babylonian priest Simon the magician - who claimed to be Christ at one point before being caught out and then humbling himself to ' forceful
godhead'..aka..'vicar of Christ' a title still used to today by the current popes.
Research seems to indicate that it was Simon Magus who began the Latin church in Rome under the name of Peter and Christianity. Simon Magus bought to
the roman pontificate, all the gnostic leanings of the combined Egyptian and Babylonian mystical schools and so by the time of Henry and the
reformation, the birth of the Church of England, the Roman Pontificate had bastardized many pagan and hermetic traditions along with christian
gnosticism into 'one universal (catholic') church - which was a temporal power.not a spiritual one..and had nothing of the essence of Jesus let alone
his church vision given to and developed by the true apostles. (Catholic the word itself, means ..universal.)
by Ernest L. Martin
What were the origins of Catholic-Babylonian Christianity? What was Simon’s religion before he met Peter? Where did that religion originate? Read in
this series of articles the detailed and documented account of Simon Magus and his great COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY!
THE FALSE religious system began very early—almost with Pentecost in 31 A.D. Even in the earliest of Paul’s epistles, he informs us that "the
mystery of iniquity DOTH ALREADY WORK" (II Thess. 2:7). Paul wrote this in 50 or 51 A.D. The plot to supplant the Truth had already begun. In the
later epistles of Paul and in those of the other Apostles, we find it gaining considerable momentum. However, even though the Apostles discuss the
diabolical system which was arising, THEY NOWHERE MENTION HOW IT STARTED. They had no need in mentioning its beginning—that had already been
To put it in context...
The basis for the current roman catholic churches legitimacy and so..all of its offshoots or branches including the Church of England..stems from
something called ' apostolic succession' - they claim that Peter ( Jesus's disciple) went to Rome , became a 'pope' founded a Christian church in
Jesus' name and sanctioned the raising of what was to become the catholic church in Rome to its current position in order to ' safeguard' the gospels
and continue the mission of the apostles etc.. - the Vatican today still claims Peter instituted this "right of succession".
The reality is no proof can be found at all linking Jesus' apostle./disciple Peter to the Roman church or any Roman pontificate nor any proof of his
ever passing on any authority. This alone puts a huge question mark over the 'right of kings' as claimed by the English royal traditions which also
claim their right to rule under the same 'God given' authorities as the Vatican.
There is much evidence to suggest the early apostles were wise to the con job..( read bible books Thessalonians and 'Acts' in the original Hebrew for
starters ) and that Peter himself vehemently opposed them and that the "Peter" the Roman Catholics attribute their legitimacy to, was in fact Simon
as 'Simon-Peter' ( one the of the original 12) who, being the ' Devil who deceived the whole world' gave the pontificate
what they wanted and needed politically at the time - legitimacy in the public eye.
Originally, the roman pontificate was simply a Jupiter-Saturn-Mars worship cult..it had nothing to do with Christs church or message ( though they
twisted and used Jesus's 'commentary on his Father in heaven to much success), and it was merely, one third of the Roman triune political body - the
only political body of the three to survive the fall of Rome after the senate was dissolved and the office of Emperor/Caesar was demolished. They were
the astrologers of their day...not astronomers...men of superstition not science.
They went from maligned poly-deist religious cult to rising as a political power outside of the curia only after the fall of Rome, later, using this
false 'sanction' of the divine authority to be the church of Christianity given by 'Peter'/Simon Magus as a vehicle to rise to the power they now
wield as " The Holy See"/Vatican
Odd spot... along the same lines of deception....I was taking note just today of the base of statue of liberty.
I saw it was an 8 pointed star. This symbol is used widely in Dan Browns books and many others of the Rose legend line...
The Rub el Hizb - 8 pointed star is originally Sumerian ( birthplace of Abraham), though was widely used as a Babylonian symbol of the Goddess
Astaroth - another link to the Roman catholic lie. It is also the symbol of Venus in the 13 root zodiac...a link to tree of life Egyptian mystery
schools This star itself is also linked to Simon the magician and most recently, was stolen/appropriated by Muslims from the ancient Babylonian
Its now widely used in Islam and in Satanism practices, as well as in many other 8 fold path root religious and non religious groups including
freemasonry. It pays to note though, that nugatory use of this symbol works directly with what are called the feminine Alchemical Energies of the
Hermetic and Thothian mystery traditions, energies which are manipulated to keep the ignorant followers enslaved to temporal powers.
Amazing how such symbolism works and carries down through time huh..and how much manipulation of the simple message and premise of Jesus Christ has
been so twisted and yet still can be 'accepted' by so ,many as 'fact'.
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