Please reread the post OccamAssassin, you've misunderstood, nobody said there was a conspiracy with regard to keyboard layouts, it was used as an example as how society can get trapped with with a product that is hindering us; like a poor keyboard layout or vaccines

Originally posted by OccamAssassin
reply to post by Rubinstein

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Please reread the post OccamAssassin, you've misunderstood, nobody said there was a conspiracy with regard to keyboard layouts, it was used as an example as how society can get trapped with with a product that is hindering us; like a poor keyboard layout or vaccines

WRT the keyboards....My apologies.

Originally posted by OccamAssassin

I wonder about the comparison with vaccines though. What is the alternative to vaccines?

Originally posted by OccamAssassin

Do nothing and watch populations plummet due to mass outbreaks of dangerous diseases? <--If mass eradication of 3rd world populations was/is the goal....Wouldn't vaccines be taboo technology and a tightly held secret by TPTB?

Assuming yours is a serious post john_bmth, I'll help you out here

john_bmth "So you're postulating that the HIV virus was "invented" as a means to get people to practice safe sex in order to depopulate Earth? Ignoring the fact that the EASIEST way to do this would be to promote safe sex?"

Your statement makes no sense, try reading it again. You've disagreed with me, but then said that the easiest way to depopulate the Earth is by encouraging people to practice 'safe sex'. One promotes safe sex by telling people about 'risks', such as HIV/AIDs etc. You've actually agreed with me but without realizing it.


john_bmth "And that's also completely ignoring the fact even if your insane idea WAS true, it would only SLOW population growth, not REDUCE the population "

You need to look up what 'population growth' is, you meant to say 'birth rate' i.e. "it would only SLOW *birth rate*". More 'safe sex' = lower birth rate. If they reduce the birth rate to below the death rate, then they start to reduce the population.

john_bmth "I know this is a conspiracy board but considering that most conspiracy theorists generally consider themselves open minded and informed, the fact that you are getting stars for posting such nonsense only serves to illustrate how ignorant and subject to confirmation bias some members really are. This is the sort of nonsense that makes conspiracy theorists look like a laughing stock that no one takes seriously."

Either you're having a laugh or are very confused on this; hard to tell which. I've given you the benefit of the doubt with a serious response

Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by Rubinstein

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That is ridiculous, utterly ridiculous logic. So you're postulating that the HIV virus was "invented" as a means to get people to practice safe sex in order to depopulate Earth? Ignoring the fact that the EASIEST way to do this would be to promote safe sex? And the fact that conservative citizens and politicians are very much AGAINST promoting safe sex in favour of the baby-producing "abstinence"? And that's also completely ignoring the fact even if your insane idea WAS true, it would only SLOW population growth, not REDUCE the population

I know this is a conspiracy board but considering that most conspiracy theorists generally consider themselves open minded and informed, the fact that you are getting stars for posting such nonsense only serves to illustrate how ignorant and subject to confirmation bias some members really are. This is the sort of nonsense that makes conspiracy theorists look like a laughing stock that no one takes seriously.

edit on 10-6-2012 by Rubinstein because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Rubinstein

Only if we're told that there are, but they needed a monster of an STD, one much scary than all of the others. They engineered it and placed in some vaccines.

You still haven't answered WHY they need a "monster STD" since the primary motivation for using condoms is NOT to avoid HIV Show me the evidence that people's primary motivation for using contraception is to avoid AIDS. Actually, don't bother, I'm not going to reply to any more of your posts, I have better things to do with my time than argue with people who make up completely unfounded statements that are utterly devoid of logic and evidence.

It is a factor especially in countries with high rates of HIV, but as I said, overall HIV failed; it takes too long to kill.

What? So now you're saying that people in countries with high HIV rates use condoms to avoid catching (deadly) HIV so that they can reduce the population? Yet again, your logic is thoroughly faulty. If there's a deadly STD rampant among a population, why exactly would you want to teach them safe sex if your goal is to reduce population? And what's all this "takes too long to kill" business about? You clearly stated that the purpose of HIV was to scare people into practising safe sex. Get your story straight!

If you're not interested in looking up the terms that you're using, I can't spend much longer answering your posts. You're confused with their meaning.

Population Growth/Decline is commonly calculated using Birth Rate, Mortality Rate and Migration Rate. It's an equation with Population Growth/Decline on one side of the = and Birth Rate, Mortality Rate and Migration Rate on the other side, I'm not hear to teach Maths though.

*Yawn* ducking the issue again. Show me the positive correlation between countries that practice safe sex and a reduction in their population growth.

Originally posted by john_bmth
As Dr. Eric Pianka said when discussing how to eliminate 90% of the world's population to solve the 'population crisis'. "AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow."

You said that the idea behind the HIV virus was to scare people into practising safe sex You're not even consistent with your made up assertions.

syrinx high priest said:

Originally posted
by syrinx high priest
this makes no sense on a very simple level. the only way to depopulate the earth is with an airborne agent with a high infection rate and a short gestation time that causes death quickly or sterility

people with aids can still reproduce right ?

To which you replied:

Originally posted by Rubinstein

If everyone's terrified of catching AIDS then no, the idea is they'll be scared of having unprotected sex, so there will be less children born. You put HIV in their vaccines to prove it's in their community, then you give them propaganda about how to avoid HIV, saying it came from unprotected sex

So which is it? HIV was created to be deadly but failed because "it took too long to kill" ( syrinx high priest's argument kills that one dead in the water) or to "scare people into practising safe sex" (which again is logically bankrupt seeing that is not the primary motivation for people practising safe sex)?

Look into the Swine Flu Vaccine and Polysorbate 80 if you wish, however I can't spend any more time with you as you're acting childish and don't seem to have an open mind on this topic.

"Polysorbate 80 In Swine Flu Vaccines = Infertility In Humans"
organichealthadviser.com...

Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by wewillnotcomply666

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In that case Dr Roberto Gallo...you have epically failed it hasn't killed enough people to depopulate quite as effectively as say an AIRBORN virus would. Geez if this is what we're contending with lolz people, we need not fear the eugenists. They are pretty dumb it would seem.

Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by Laokin

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Who admitted to making the virus?

British journalist Edward Hooper publicized a hypothesis that AIDS was inadvertently caused in the late 1950s in the Belgian Congo by Koprowski's research into a polio vaccine. The OPV AIDS hypothesis has been widely rejected by the scientific community.[5] The journal Science wrote of Hooper's claims, "...it can be stated with almost complete certainty that the large polio vaccine trial... was not the origin of AIDS."[6] Koprowski also rejected the claim, although he has declined to sue Hooper. In a separate case, he won a clarification[7] and $1 in monetary damages[8] in a defamation action against Rolling Stone, which had published an article making similar allegations.[9] A concurrent defamation lawsuit that Koprowski brought against the Associated Press was settled several years later, but the terms were not publicly disclosed.[8]
Koprowski's original reports from 1960–61 detailing part of his vaccination campaign in the Belgian Congo are available on-line from the World Health Organization.[10][11][12]