If there is a gay agenda - then everyone is actually bisexual and lying to themselves

If it is true that the government is trying to make everyone gay through an agenda, that must mean that everyone is actually bisexual. Think about it, heterosexuality is being attracted to the opposite gender with no attraction to the same gender. If the government can influence people to act out these gay tendencies to reduce the population, that must mean that the person is bi. A straight person does not have attraction to the same sex, so they can not be influenced to be with a person of the same gender. A bisexual however, has attractions to both genders even if they don't act on it and be with someone of the opposite sex.

So if it is true that the government is 'influencing' people to be gay, and you are worried about that - then you are actually bisexual, because in your mind you are attracted to both genders otherwise you can not be 'influenced' if the attraction is not there.

Also, how do you know that there wasn't a straight agenda? What if there was a conspiracy to make people straight so that they can have more children since the population was low and the government needed more people?

What if people are truly bisexual and when the population is low there is a "straight" agenda, and when the population is high, there is a "gay" agenda.

reply to post by arpgme


How the ****** do you make someone gay or straight?

vvv

People who harp on about a "gay agenda" seem to be under some illusion that homosexuality in men is a new thing. They seem to forget that in the past even admitting to being a Homosexual was an illegal act. Therefor it was logical no one would admit to being a homosexual.

Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
reply to post by arpgme

 

How the ****** do you make someone gay or straight?

vvv

Gay-torade in the water supply.

Seriously though, this whole gay/straight/bi thing is sooo 30 minutes ago.

Who cares? Really.

*jazz hands*

Originally posted by arpgme
If it is true that the government is trying to make everyone gay through an agenda, that must mean that everyone is actually bisexual. Think about it, heterosexuality is being attracted to the opposite gender with no attraction to the same gender. If the government can influence people to act out these gay tendencies to reduce the population, that must mean that the person is bi. A straight person does not have attraction to the same sex, so they can not be influenced to be with a person of the same gender. A bisexual however, has attractions to both genders even if they don't act on it and be with someone of the opposite sex.

So if it is true that the government is 'influencing' people to be gay, and you are worried about that - then you are actually bisexual, because in your mind you are attracted to both genders otherwise you can not be 'influenced' if the attraction is not there.

Also, how do you know that there wasn't a straight agenda? What if there was a conspiracy to make people straight so that they can have more children since the population was low and the government needed more people?

What if people are truly bisexual and when the population is low there is a "straight" agenda, and when the population is high, there is a "gay" agenda.

edit on 8-6-2012 by arpgme because: (no reason given)

I don't know about you but I know i'm definitely not attracted to men, I can say this with 100% no doubt in my mind. I have no problems with homosexuals but definitely 100% straight.

reply to post by neobludragon


Exactly, which is why it makes me curious about those who are afraid of a "gay agenda". A gay agenda can't even work on a gay person. If they aren't attracted to the same sex, it doesn't matter if the government says "being gay is ok" because they are still only attracted to the opposite sex.

Which makes me wonder about people scared of being "caught" in a gay agenda...

Seems like, these are people who actually do have same sex attractions but are scared of acting on it.

Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by neobludragon

 

Exactly, which is why it makes me curious about those who are afraid of a "gay agenda". A gay agenda can't even work on a gay person. If they aren't attracted to the same sex, it doesn't matter if the government says "being gay is ok" because they are still only attracted to the opposite sex.

Which makes me wonder about people scared of being "caught" in a gay agenda...

Seems like, these are people who actually do have same sex attractions but are scared of acting on it.

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Religion is the key factor. They want to keep the sanctity of the marriage from bible man and wife. I've heard it used too many times "the bible doesn't say man and man or woman and woman, it says man and woman." that is the main cause of this. So as long as there are people who are religious nuts out there and follow the bible to every last word there will be always a "gay agenda"

reply to post by arpgme


You come off sounding either very naive, in a complete denial, or showing basic ignorance on the entire subject.

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep

How the ****** do you make someone gay or straight? vvv

If it's a straight man, you show him my picture, BOOM.

If it's a gay woman, my picture, BOOM.

Heh, I almost forgot to add the genders. Would have been an amazing backfire. I can actually still see this respnse backfiring on me... Post chess! Post chest too!

ETA: Beez just jazz handed the thread. Lold hard.

reply to post by arpgme


Umm, where is anyone saying there exists a "gay agenda"? Isn't that kind of like saying their is an agenda to make people short? Was this in the National Enquirer? Or the Fundamentalist equivalent?

reply to post by arpgme


Uhhhhhh the dopamine reward center in the brain has a very VERY strong influence in a behavior modification way . . . regarding any behavior occurring just before it's triggered.

Prisons . . . BTW, . . . SOMEWHAT indicate that some of your assumptions are flawed.

Natural inclinations are one thing. Conditioned inclinations are another.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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You come off sounding either very naive, in a complete denial, or showing basic ignorance on the entire subject.

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Where am I showing ignorance?

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep

 

How the ****** do you make someone gay or straight? vvv

If it's a straight man, you show him my picture, BOOM.

If it's a gay woman, my picture, BOOM.

I know straight guys wish that they can do this to some lesbians.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
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Prisons . . . BTW, . . . SOMEWHAT indicate that some of your assumptions are flawed.

No, it doesn't. There is a different between a man having sex with another man and a man actually being attracted to another man. If a straight guy is in prison and he has sex with a man, he'll be thinking of a woman. You can not make a real straight guy gay because they do not have same sex attractions.

Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by neobludragon

 

Religion is the key factor. They want to keep the sanctity of the marriage from bible man and wife. I've heard it used too many times "the bible doesn't say man and man or woman and woman, it says man and woman." that is the main cause of this. So as long as there are people who are religious nuts out there and follow the bible to every last word there will be always a "gay agenda"

Your simplistic and defamatory comment that only "religious nuts who believe in the Bible" believe there to be a "gay agenda" is false. It is the oft quoted sentiment from those in the gay camp calling for a sexual practice to be grounds for marriage. Many people who don't believe in the Bible do support marriage between men and women only. Are they also "nuts"? 

A hidden agenda is one that is put into place with deceit in order to influence an outcome. In this case, from a Biblical perspective, the outcome of the agenda is to relabel a judgement from God to a normal and healthy sexual practice. The Biblical judgment is simple:  they are given over to their passions.  That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:24).  As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing, and then they go and promote it and condemn others who don't participate in their sin.  So, without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus.  Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness.  Without forgiveness, there is no salvation. 

That's the outcome for a gay person caught up in the lifestyle. They see nothing wrong with it, and will never seek salvation like others do for other behaviours. Those that accept the relabelling as a "normal and healthy behaviour" will never view the practice as one under judgement and will never seek to bring the gospel of salvation to them. Likewise, they will not see it as a sign of imminent punishment on the world.

A hidden agenda uses deceit and lies to influence its outcome. How in this case? Heterosexual men, viewing porn, always see lesbians portrayed as voluptuous feminine women when the reality is the complete opposite - the vast majority of lesbians are manly and butch. As a heterosexual male, you would not find sexual pleasure in watching two butch lesbians in your porn and that's why they are not there. So how is TRUTH being used to influence your opinion? It's NOT. Likewise, we are socially engineered to think of the homosexual male as that "happy go-lucky, funny, charming, sweet heart of a guy" in every single film and tv show that we watch. We never are shown the torn anuses, the 500+ sexual partners, the chain gang of men humping each other nor the gay hung up on a cross blaspheming the Lord Jesus at one of their parades. Why not? Because TRUTH can't sell their outcome.

So of course there is a "hidden agenda" in the drive to get everyone to view homosexuality as a "normal and health sexual practice". By convincing you to support someone in this lifestyle you are clapping for their eternal spiritual destruction and a judgement from God instead of trying to snatch that burning twig from the fire. But to a Christian, who themselves suffered under the same or similar sexual immorality, that twig is valuable and worthy of saving! They must convince you that we "hate" homosexuals, when it's the exact opposite - love because our own Saviour died for us so that we too could be there for other sinners. They must convince you that we "hate" homosexuals because we are "bigots" when we teach our children about the homosexual lifestyle being a judgement from God, because the entire goal of Satan is to silence the words of God so that you have no clue what's around the corner. And it's nearly there as we see thousands of heterosexual teenage girls putting on lesbian shows for their boyfriends just to turn them on. Those girls weren't born 'gay' - their sexual thrill is a high. Children of homosexual couples are more likely to become homosexuals because they see it and are told that it is normal - yet they aren't born 'gay'. Boys raped as a child are more likely to turn 'homosexual' - yet they weren't born 'gay'. Heterosexuals addicted to pornography have their sexual identity confused - yet they weren't born 'gay'.  All of these things are truths, shown by studies, yet they are not presented to you. Why not? Truths can't sell the homosexual lifestyle to heterosexual people - only lies and untruths can. God clearly states that those who perish are those who never learned to love the truth - that even in the face of multiple truths they still preferred the wickedness and lies that made them more 'comfortable'.

reply to post by arpgme

I know straight guys wish that they can do this to some lesbians.

You've never seen my white fluffy self in a wig. The makeup makes me a lipstick lesbian, but the tie makes me butch. I'm all kinds of desirable.

reply to post by WhoKnows100


Torn anuses?
500+ Lovers?

Generalise much?

What have you been reading / watching?

Maybe its just an excuse that some people are looking for since being "gay and proud" is now very common?

I, myself, can see a girl and think she is pretty or whatnot, BUT not for a second do I think I want to be intimate with her. I've actually been in situations where I could have but whatever biology hardware is inside of me did not drive me to it.

I prefer men, the company of men and their anatomy, hands down (no pun intended!)

Its about time to drop this "Gay" terminology. Bring back queer, or butch or whatever.

I cant enjoy the Bugs bunny theme anymore, when they have a "Gay Old time".
Or old 30s/40s/50s movies when they went to "Gay Pari", or spoke about everyone being so Gay at a party.
So Fred and Ginger were gay dancers.....they had a happy time!

Not to mention all the old ladies in my youth, telling me what lovely Gay neckties, I use to wear.!!

So I vote to stop calling Poofs.."Gay"..How do we know they are so happy all the time??

Oh BTW, Im coming out the closet now, Im officially a Lesbian....Yes Im sorry but I like women!!!

I cant wait till they legalize Homosexual marriage, There's lots of nice lesbians I'd like to marry.....

What..But Im a Guy??????? You Mean.............damn!!.

reply to post by blackmetalmist


Stop it. You're ruining the man code.

I think the OP was trying to say that if you could just persuade someone who is straight to be gay, they already were, or at least bisexual. People rallying around claiming others are going to turn someone gay, obviously don't get that being gay isn't a choice, so those that can be turned already have a propensity. I may be way off, but that's what I got.

I've been wondering about this for a while too..

What if everybody really was bisexual, as in there was a possibility of turning gay(or straight) through continued indoctrination, or not turning gay because of societal tabboo condemning the practice, take ancient Greece for an example, weren't a larger percentage of men gay in those times as opposed to modern days?

I'm still not sure if it's even possible, I like to entertain the idea though.

As for the existance of a gay agenda, I wouldn't call it that.
I would rather view it as a tendency to glorify and cater to all sorts of minorities while bashing the nuclear family in an effort to destabilise society as a whole and at the same time confuse and eradicate so called "gender roles"(in reality biological roles), radical feminism would be another movement that supports this agenda.

Originally posted by Domo1
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Stop it. You're ruining the man code.

I think the OP was trying to say that if you could just persuade someone who is straight to be gay, they already were, or at least bisexual. People rallying around claiming others are going to turn someone gay, obviously don't get that being gay isn't a choice, so those that can be turned already have a propensity. I may be way off, but that's what I got.

Ok, Ive heard this man code thing twice this week ! What is it ???

As for turning gay, there has been studies that some women prefer men with "femenine" profiles. They found them more attractive, etc. And there was something mentioned about men but I cant remember. I believe, they have these shows all the time on Discovery Health. Its about our sexual biology and the studies they've done.

Maybe we are all bisexual in some kinda way. I just probably wont get around to it anytime soon