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Originally posted by HeWhosCalledIAm
Now talk about food for thought. At first, I almost dismissed the question altogether because I thought, " Why would you ask such a question?" To my knowledge, we're made of the same building blocks as the rest of the Universe. Science pretty much has that dialed in. So to me what you're asking is, " Are you smarter than yourself?" We're, more or less, the Universe trying to understand itself." So to me, it's not a yes or no. More of an, "Ummm.... what?... Smarter than Universe?.... Smarter than Self?..." Just my instant thought, though.
So, to keep it simple, No. I don't think we're smarter than the Universe. Curious though, what are your thoughts on the matter?
Thanks for the brain food
Originally posted by ErgoTheConfusion
reply to post by jiggerj
I don't believe we are. The question (and thus why it is in the science and technology forum), is the materialist view that things like Rocks and Planets are *not* conscious.
A fundamental materialist (or atheist if you wish, but I'm trying to avoid turning this into a conversation about "God" and "religion") *would* assign more consciousness and intelligence to a gorilla than the universe. The universe is a "dumb blind watchmaker" from that perspective which is held by the bulk of current scientific thinking.
If they do not believe they are more conscious or intelligent than the universe, then they have to agree there is a "higher consciousness"... which then leads down a slope that modern science has refused to broach yet. But when the question is asked from this perspective, it puts the burden of proof on the materialist, not the spiritualist.
The "dumb blind watchmaker" approach to the universe is making a statement that bears burden of proof when it is challenged from this direction because it deals with JUST "The Material Universe" as they are comfortable dealing with it using the scientific method.
So you did follow the logic, the question just wasn't challenging the stance you hold, but the inverse.
Namaste!edit on 2012/6/7 by ErgoTheConfusion because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Klimhazard
.....The times I have managed this I can tell you I have felt intelligence from everything, even from the smallest particles. Once the ego is dulled one can connect to the mind of the Universe which is made up jointly of the minds of its inhabitants (each of us donating a small part of our sentience) and the mind of God/the Godhead.