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Slapped in the Face by ATF Today

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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
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well i think that's the best thing that could have happened.
if you were smart, from now on, the only gun purchases you make would come from private sales.
no need in the state or atf to know what your packin.
because when they do come looking for our guns, it's the ones with the paper trail they will go for first.

oh ra
semper fi


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So when was the last time they came looking for the nations gun?




posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
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Bad guys don't fill out forms.


I just took one small quote from your post because I think that reality is what ticked me off the most; bad guys don’t fill out forms! People on the up and up have to occasionally jump through hoops to buy a gun but criminals can pick one up with ease on a moment’s notice.

This is what the idiots who keep advocating for gun control simply DO NOT UNDERSTAND! Their stupid laws only have negative effects on the GOOD GUYS! It begs the question…what’s the point of more laws??

Hi,

More like, Who are the "bad guys?"
Border security in the South.
What is it they are securing? Because they sure ain't enforcing what they say they are.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by jiggerj
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Isn't there a law stating that when purchasing a firearm there must be a few days waiting period? I thought this became a law so that really angry people have a few days to cool off before getting their hands on a gun.


No sir, no cooling off period in Texas. If you pass NICS and do not give the FFL a reason not to sell to you, and you can pay, you can buy a gun. That simple.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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So when was the last time they came looking for the nations gun?


2005….

Katrina

Look it up.






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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Beanskinner

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
reply to post by seabag
 


well i think that's the best thing that could have happened.
if you were smart, from now on, the only gun purchases you make would come from private sales.
no need in the state or atf to know what your packin.
because when they do come looking for our guns, it's the ones with the paper trail they will go for first.

oh ra
semper fi


edit on 7-6-2012 by hounddoghowlie because: (no reason given)


So when was the last time they came looking for the nations gun?


When Hillary signs us off on her Small Arms Treaty? Dick Morris says in his new book, "Screwed" that it is likely gun control in disguise.(p. 56) (although I fail to see the disguise part).
He writes on p 56, "There is, of course, no question that small arms-AK 47's, grenades, handguns, automatics-are proliferating in all countries,. But mostly governments are selling the weapons."
He furthber states, "But the proposed UN treaty would take advantage of public concern about the spread of arms to crack down on private arms sellers and owners whose contribution ot the worldwide arms epidemic is minimal."

Also stated on the same page, "Former US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton sees the treaty as a way to impose gun controls on the United States."
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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Further, Morris writes on p 57 of "Screwed", "Fox News reports that the treaty would also require 'countries to set up their own government agencies to TRACK any guns that could be exported.'"

So how hard would it be to figure that the curent admin is already beginning to do this before the Treaty is even signed?

For the record, he also states that Bush opposed a Small Arms Treaty but that Hillary has reversed this position(p. 57). So there IS a difference in Presidents and the people they have around them. .
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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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Probably to shoot at things with.

But, maybe just for decoration.

What difference does it make?
edit on 8-6-2012 by jihadoflove to add clariffication

Not trying to be confrontational, but if he is of age and not legally disqualified from owning firearms, it does not make a difference "why". No reason is required.

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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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What amazes me is they do this stuff behind closed doors and when people like Dick Morris and others expose it, many still ignore it or downplay its significance!


This is why they get away with it!! Nobody pays attention!!

Agenda 21 was signed in 1992!!!! Most people have no idea what measures are authorized under that treaty! UN troops are permitted in American streets! Gun confiscations! Privacy violations! He completely signed away our constitution 20 years ago!


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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Welcome to the Amerika, land of the opressed, home of the globalists.


Don't think for a moment Mitt Romney will be your savoir in this case either. I'm sure he will make things even more restrictive.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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I own 1 weapon. A Browning’s 12 gage pump. Don’t need much else. Just point and shoot. Trust me, no accuracy required.

I am interested to see what happens. Please keep us updated...



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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I started a topic on this but our gun rights are being taken away slowly from us.

In WA along with a few other states, when you buy a new firearm, the ATF/FBI fire the first shot from your pistol to keep on file. Then when you pick up you brand new *ahem* almost brand new firearm, it comes with a little baggy with a shell in it saying that the government has your pistols unique "fingerprint" on the bullet that they kept. To warn you obviously that if you use it in a homicide or any crime involving your weapon it'll be automatically traceble to you.

So my WARNING FOR THE FUTURE OF GUN OWNERSHIP is that you BUY A NEW BARREL for you pistol when you buy a new pistol so the government won't automatically have your new gun on thie gun equivalent of AVIS.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Well Janet does not want any Vets to own guns and I think that is why your put on hold. Sad day in America when Vets can get guns but they can put their asses on the line for the government any day and that is fine with them.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by Urbanshadow
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We are not allowed to own firearms here (in the UK) without a special licence. I just wondered why you had so many, and what you wanted another one for?


Ahhh. Our government doesn't 'allow' us to own firearms, we claim it as our right.
I wonder why you never did the same.


Guns over here would be bad. :|
Especially here in Glasgow, its been known as the "Knife capital of Europe"

I would hate to think what it would be like with guns



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Swing80s
I started a topic on this but our gun rights are being taken away slowly from us.

In WA along with a few other states, when you buy a new firearm, the ATF/FBI fire the first shot from your pistol to keep on file. Then when you pick up you brand new *ahem* almost brand new firearm, it comes with a little baggy with a shell in it saying that the government has your pistols unique "fingerprint" on the bullet that they kept. To warn you obviously that if you use it in a homicide or any crime involving your weapon it'll be automatically traceble to you.



That's a violation of privacy rights, do not trust the government with your shell casing or lead... I would send the gun back and just buy from flee-markets or yard sales and load your own brass...

There is enough guns floating around in America to buy privately... you don't need to buy from a gun dealer that gives into the ATF constitutional violations.


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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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im quite sad that a gun nut isnt aloud any more guns. maybe you should buy a convertable sports car instead or get some tattoos and grow a beard.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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Then why feel the need to question me?

I've already explained why I asked. this has to be an ATS record for replies to my perfectly valid and honest question

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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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Been gone most of the day and came back to find you all still arguing.......damn.....some times ATSrs are really ANAL !!!!
Same people still going at it. If I was a mod I would have shut this thread down already geesh....



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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The US is a dangerous place. Lots of crazies and paranoids; not to mention just a # load of criminals. Best to be armed just in case. I live in TX on a "drug highway", as an aging lady who lives literally a stones throw from that road I do worry a bit. Not enough to have an arsenal mind you, but we do have defensive weapons for our home.

I sincerely wish this was not the case. How I yearn to live in a place where I would not always have to look over my shoulder. Consider yourself very lucky.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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I would say quit your bitching and enjoy the other firearms you have while you still have them. Seriously? And you guys wonder why we Canadians look down on you.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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You know what you SHOULD do? Call up your buddies you served with, any kind of military personel, and especially overseers if possible and see if they can help you to raise hell about this. But wait, WHY make it a big deal, when you know you will get that gun you wanted?? Because its WRONG, it is ANTI-PATRIOT! It is un-constitutional and they are "refusing" (not to all but to most ATS users probably) to sell their guns not because of racial or sexual descrimination, but because of PATRIOTISM!!! What the F*CK?! This is AMERICA, oh wait, this is the United States of America, police of the world and destroyers of the previous America, I'll tell you what, we need change and we need it FAST!!! Dont underestimate your self man, I belive you can be the start of something BIG!



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