Originally posted by Tbrooks76
Its ok and I don't care if you all think I'm crazy.
I will tell you all something personal, and why I ask this question...
I was an agnostic years ago, and something did happen to me so incredible, that it prove to myself there was a God. I'm not going to get into what
that was, it's personal, but I had the event, that I'm asking you what you do if happen to you. It was something that really change the way I think
about things. No drugs no drinking, I was driving down the road when I seen this event that can only be discribe as supernatural happen right in
front, and no other cars around at the time.
Jumping off the original purpose with you for a few minutes:
Life events often convince us that there is (sometimes isn't) a more powerful force out there. For me, I have deep deep belief (won't say absolute
proof since I'm also a scientist) in God, but not in the way he is portrayed by the current churches. I think many, if not most of them have it very
wrong in their interpretation. I see the bible as more of a history book based on God. This doesn't mean that God isn't real, it's just the the
story about God is being told from the perspective of man, not the perspective of God. As with any history book or any story from a given perspective,
they do accurately portray many of the events, but also inaccurately portray other events or the purpose of events. I don't see the bible as a
verbatem, unbiased description of what went on nor are the human experiences meant to be an instruction book for what we are to do. It tells us that
God created all that is over a time period. An issue comes up for those that believe it was done in 6 twentyfour hour time periods and he rested on
the 7th twentyfour hour time period. But, from the scientific perspective we see that the rotation of the earth, the revolution of it and the
expansion of the universe would dictate that our concept of the passage of time isn't what it always was. The bible alludes to this by telling us
that to God, a thousand years is just as a moment and a moment is as a thousand years. So I have a descriptive source from the accepted version of
what God is said to be for my understanding of the information presented which negates the interpretation of those who wish to go verbatem.
The humans who lived 900 years, 400 years and so on were measuring a year by how long it took for the earth to revolve around the sun. What if a year
during their life was equal to a few months of what we now experience? That would explain a great deal about the longevity.
It is said that God created Adam from the dust of the earth, i.e., he is a carbon based lifeform as are the other living things on the earth. God
created the other animals as a "helpmeet" or "social companion" for Adam and none of them were up to snuff, so he made another human, just a
little bit different (gender) and things were a little better. The two of them screwed up and ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, i.e,
they developed thought processes that made them ask questions and search for answers instead of being blind, obediant "animatronics". As a result,
they were expelled from the garden and sent to "create their own existance" by procreating, living, dying....perhaps something we may do if our
artificial intelligence were to exhibit the ability to build on previous knowledge, have emotion, basically have "real life", maybe not, but it's a
thought, we are biological machines to an extent....
Anyway...there are thousands of examples and thousands of other interpretations and opinions, some agreeing and some disagreeing, etc.
so... the whole reason for me typing all this and going on and on....
The reaction would depend a great deal upon the nature of "God" that was proven and the degree of disbelief the athiest may have as well as any
emotional reason for the disbelief. It is impossible to prove a negative, so there is no way to prove there is NOT a God, but it is possible to prove
a positive, so it is plausible to show that there IS a God, if there is a God. So, the theological will never be deterred, but the non-theological
could possibly be convinced and that is what has perpetuated the concept of religion throughout our existance. We will never, ever, throughout all
eternity ever be able to prove that there is no God, it's an impossibility due to the nature of science itself. That leaves the proof that there is a
God as one of the "unsolved problems" of the universe. It doesn't say it's unsolvable, just that it's unsolved, therefore, it remains a premise
and will always remain a premise. Some will dismiss the premise but will not be able to prove that the premise, at it's base, is not possible. They
can show contradictions in individual theories based on the premise and abandon those theories, but the basic premise that there is a power outside
our existance will remain throughout our existance.