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Was Michael Jackson almost in WTC on 9/11?

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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by GiodanoBruno
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
 


Wow,,,, what a horrible thread. I don't know if you are an OSer or Truther but good god woman, why would you even spend one second trying to connect these two perspectives?? The jackson family is a complete joke and a disgrace in so many ways.


The Mods should put this in the stupid section. Honestly.


Well, Michael Jackson doctor was convicted of murder. Michael Jackson was the world's most successful musical entertainer. TPTB that control the music industry were a target of MJ's accusations. MJ was in NY on 9/11. MJ's siblings claim he had a meeting in the WTC on 9/11.

Now here's where you might need to be open to possibilities...

People knew the 9/11 attacks were going to happen prior to 9/11. If you believe the OS, the hijackers and Al Qaida knew for sure. If there were 19 hijackers there must have been at least 19 people who knew.

How can you say it's impossible that somebody with prior knowledge didn't warn MJ somehow?

And how can you say the Jackson family is a complete joke? What makes them a complete joke? What you've read about them in the media?




posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by underduck
reply to post by GiodanoBruno
 


I dont care about MJ one way or the other but I do agree with your opinion about celebrities and why America gets all wrapped up in their silly lives. What I think the OP is trying to say though is that MJ made multiple statements about TPTB and appeared to be aware of some of the forces we talk about on ATS. Is it possible that he had some sort of inside knowledge? You will see in my original comment that I didnt think that was the case but I didnt by any stretch call the OPs idea stupid.

Its just that type unnessesary hostility that is making ATS tougher and tougher to tolerate.



Inside knowledge??? Woooooo


Celebs are puppets,,slaves. All of them should be shot on the spot with all the PR firms. And I know what the OP is saying. Same dam crap. MJ didn't know jack. And if he did , the Zionists would not try to destroy all that steel/concrete for one circus clown. Zionists are not stupid, but the OP thinks so. And that's why this thread should go strait into the stupid section. Which doesn't exist, but it should.

Mods take note please.

Unnecessary hostility?? What hostility?. ATS is the most conservative site ,, EVER. And you are complaining about hostility??

Slow down buddy.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1

Originally posted by GiodanoBruno
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
 


Wow,,,, what a horrible thread. I don't know if you are an OSer or Truther but good god woman, why would you even spend one second trying to connect these two perspectives?? The jackson family is a complete joke and a disgrace in so many ways.


The Mods should put this in the stupid section. Honestly.


Well, Michael Jackson doctor was convicted of murder. Michael Jackson was the world's most successful musical entertainer. TPTB that control the music industry were a target of MJ's accusations. MJ was in NY on 9/11. MJ's siblings claim he had a meeting in the WTC on 9/11.

Now here's where you might need to be open to possibilities...

People knew the 9/11 attacks were going to happen prior to 9/11. If you believe the OS, the hijackers and Al Qaida knew for sure. If there were 19 hijackers there must have been at least 19 people who knew.

How can you say it's impossible that somebody with prior knowledge didn't warn MJ somehow?

And how can you say the Jackson family is a complete joke? What makes them a complete joke? What you've read about them in the media?



Where do I start?

So because someone is world famous in something that gives them the inside track in universal events?

Sorry. Doesn't work like that. Celebs are circus clowns. Here to distract us from the real world . Nothing more.

And no I don't believe the OS(read my signature).

Why would anyone want to warn MJ? Is MJ spiderman?

And I don't listen to the media. He is a joke like all musicians and actors and director.....the list go on and on...



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by protocolsoflove
I also believe this to be a pretty silly topic. I was intrigued by the thread title but then I saw MJ information that everyone has seen a thousand times and then some quote about how MJ "missed some appointments" in New York on 9/11.

It's one of those conspiracies with no inertia because at BEST it's a "what if MJ went to his appointments in New York would it have been at the WTC". It's something that didn't even happen and i GUARANTEE that MJ had no hand in the production of his album art at that time (if at any time). He was raped while alive by the same people who stood to profit more from his death and the fact that he was waking up to it was why he was killed.


Who would profit more from MJ's death than if he were alive? And why would that provide motive to kill him?

Just curious if you could explain that.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by GiodanoBruno

Originally posted by davesmart
hi op
thx for the thread..
to the minority...
stop bashing, some of the most absurd ideas in history have been true
and theres nowt wrong with connecting dots is there?

cheers op
dave


Lol,,,ok,,, name one


hya

If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it...einstein..

check out this page
www.cracked.com...



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1

Originally posted by protocolsoflove
I also believe this to be a pretty silly topic. I was intrigued by the thread title but then I saw MJ information that everyone has seen a thousand times and then some quote about how MJ "missed some appointments" in New York on 9/11.

It's one of those conspiracies with no inertia because at BEST it's a "what if MJ went to his appointments in New York would it have been at the WTC". It's something that didn't even happen and i GUARANTEE that MJ had no hand in the production of his album art at that time (if at any time). He was raped while alive by the same people who stood to profit more from his death and the fact that he was waking up to it was why he was killed.


Who would profit more from MJ's death than if he were alive? And why would that provide motive to kill him?

Just curious if you could explain that.


Who cares about who profits or the motive. This is chump change compared to 911.

Michael Jackson is a singer


911 changed the world as we know it , completely. 7 wars have started because of 911. There are currently 43 military bases in the middle east because of 911.

You are desperately trying to state and connect, a circus clown could have knowledge or some connection with 911... Just crazy

Let me ask you , do you like MJ? Is he your favorite? Cause it sounds like it is... Which is extremely subjective on your part. See my point.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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Let me just say that now you are at least making good points. This is far better than your "move it to the stupid section" post from earlier and I agree with you.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by davesmart

Originally posted by GiodanoBruno

Originally posted by davesmart
hi op
thx for the thread..
to the minority...
stop bashing, some of the most absurd ideas in history have been true
and theres nowt wrong with connecting dots is there?

cheers op
dave


Lol,,,ok,,, name one


hya

If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it...einstein..

check out this page
www.cracked.com...


More like movies Based on speculation


-Indiana Jones is a massive exaggeration of Andrew's life.
but this isn't an absurd idea.

-Evil fortresses in hollywood came from fortresses from the third Reich. How is this absurd?


-Password jargon isn't absurd. People ,especially third world govs, are inherently lazy. Not absurd


-How is underground sewer communities absurd????


-So its absurd to think people can't help themselves? Especially for attention? Its absurd people can't keep a secret? Even if it involves themselves?


-And finally how in the world can you think its absurd that morons actually think they are comic book heroes. Have you ever watched the Big Bang Theory. Its a show on people just like that.


--What is absurd : is I ask you a simple question, and lazy 'ol you posted a link that answers nothing of the sort. There is nothing absurd about that link.

Could try though........



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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hahahaha
i know
i was trying to find something quick to save face lol
i admit i couldnt think of anything i was on the spot
cheers for looking at the link though
most peeps dont
cheers
dave

oh yeh and dont forget the absurd idea of the moon landing


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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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I don't know? Maybe the people that sold a record number of Thriller albums on iTunes after he died? Maybe the people who made a movie about his death and made millions upon millions after his death? Maybe the people putting on the Michael Jackson Immortal tour?

Michael Jackson was a victim of a form of mind control like most celebrities today. Check out Springmeier's research and read what he says about Peter Pan programming. Neverland Ranch?



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by GiodanoBruno
Who cares about who profits or the motive. This is chump change compared to 911.

Michael Jackson is a singer

911 changed the world as we know it , completely. 7 wars have started because of 911. There are currently 43 military bases in the middle east because of 911.

You are desperately trying to state and connect, a circus clown could have knowledge or some connection with 911... Just crazy

Let me ask you , do you like MJ? Is he your favorite? Cause it sounds like it is... Which is extremely subjective on your part. See my point.


Why would you think Michael Jackson is my favorite, and what does that have to do with this topic?

Why is it crazy to believe MJ might have had some knowledge of a conspiracy that you claim to believe?

MJ was honored by both Bush Sr. more than once at the White House:





Here's an interesting perspective:

George W. Bush Loves Michael Jackson

So tell me, if you believe in the 9/11 conspiracy how do you know that MJ wasn't informed by somebody in the Bush family to stay out of the towers?



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Because the Bush's wouldn't warn anybody of an assassination. These Bonesmen are members or every secret society I can't name (except maybe Bush's p2 lodge connection). They have been involved in more assassination and black ops than anybody in the history of the world.

And you're trying to tell us that they would intervene on as high level of an operation as 9/11 to notify michael jackson?! Let me tell you something, these people aren't snitches. They don't tell other people's secrets and if they were going to break every CIA and intelligence modus operandi by doing what you say, it certainly wouldn't be for a hollywood celebrity.

Besides how many fake political events have fake ass presidents given some stupid medal to people? Happens all the time, I wouldn't expect this to mean that they are best buds.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by GiodanoBruno
Who cares about who profits or the motive. This is chump change compared to 911.

Michael Jackson is a singer


Yet it could be very much related. Perhaps not as presumed in this thread. It is well accepted in this thread that MJ was controlled due to his success. He isn't the only one. What is the reason for the control? Public distraction and perception which is why people feel how they do and why simple issues like gay marriage are bafflingly more controversial than civilian deaths of foreign countries.

But back to control. I'm not saying that MJ was part of the Monarch program but one does find the circumstances of his life to be quite irregular...I think that the very act of controlling human beings...now a days through remote control...to be something that would be right on par with 9/11...

Quick aside...



Call me crazy but I do think there is much more t this. The above video does show the possibility that a recent pop superstar is potentially involved in some kind of remote control - what else can explain her reaction?

Then add all of the other Illuminati symbols in music, Gaga et cetera and at the very least there is something going on...



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Whe MJ said they changed our history books, I don't personally think he meant American history or the moon landing. That's how I took it to mean. I'm not American so I don't instantly think of every conspiracy being American. I look from the perspective of a global view.

Soon books will be obsolete and we won't be able to go to the original first edition publications to check sources. Manipulating by digital means is all too easy. I think he was alluding to that. First editions with the original content being changed on subsequent reprints.
Libraries are tossing books in the bin, claiming they would take too long to file.


I'm not sure about advance knowledge of 911. I think it's plausible he was privy to many things, he could have known " something will happen" but not have all the details.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by sam_inc
Again, HES NOT DEAD


Really? Anything to support your theory?

Why do you believe he is not dead?



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1

Originally posted by GiodanoBruno
Who cares about who profits or the motive. This is chump change compared to 911.

Michael Jackson is a singer

911 changed the world as we know it , completely. 7 wars have started because of 911. There are currently 43 military bases in the middle east because of 911.

You are desperately trying to state and connect, a circus clown could have knowledge or some connection with 911... Just crazy

Let me ask you , do you like MJ? Is he your favorite? Cause it sounds like it is... Which is extremely subjective on your part. See my point.


Why would you think Michael Jackson is my favorite, and what does that have to do with this topic?

Why is it crazy to believe MJ might have had some knowledge of a conspiracy that you claim to believe?

MJ was honored by both Bush Sr. more than once at the White House:





Here's an interesting perspective:

George W. Bush Loves Michael Jackson

So tell me, if you believe in the 9/11 conspiracy how do you know that MJ wasn't informed by somebody in the Bush family to stay out of the towers?



Why do I think MJ is your fav?

Have you seen what you posted?? Your telling me you dont own a single song of MJ?

You do understand Bush Sr and all presidents have Honored many people. Do they have knowledge of a boogie man conspiracy?


The 911 conspiracy is filled with logical loopholes . Just read my signature. Your MJ thing is 100% speculation.


Its a huge hunch.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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Some 50,000 people worked in the buildings, while another 200,000 visited or passed through each day. The top floor observation deck had 26,000 visitors daily, who could see for 45 mi on a clear day. From the ground, the towers were visible for at least 20 mi. The complex had its own zip code, 10048


Read more: World Trade Center History — Infoplease.com www.infoplease.com...


Alot of people were ALMOST there.
edit on 6/7/2012 by fixer1967 because: spelling



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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Well, Michael Jackson doctor was convicted of murder. Michael Jackson was the world's most successful musical entertainer.


Depends on the definition of the word "successful". What is success?

(I could also note that it also depends on the words 'musical' and 'entertainer', but let's leave that for now..)

Also, how do you know he was -the-most-successful-? Where is the source for that information? And if we really take that claim literally, you are not specifying a timeframe. Which means you mean 'of all time' (but does 'all time' also mean the future?). Which means, that even in Atlantis, or Lemuria, or the civilization before that, there were -never- any even 'as successful' "musical entertainers" (whatever that means).

In other words, your sentence needs some clarifying, before it can be taken as the truth.

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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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Another thing, coulnt find it on ATS,
In the movie, This is it, early 2009, Michael is saying; "We have four years to get it right or else it's irreversible,".

What was Jackson referring to? i'm curious what you think
and i only meant what Michael said about 2012, not the other things they talk about.





sorry for the language on the vid, couldnt find another one of this part



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