Russia prepares for war in Syria, army units

reply to post by Flyzoid

But the us military Is never anything we should worry about!

Until they are used against us.......

Has anyone received secondary source confirmation?

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Ahhh....Would that be as much fun?

reply to post by rickymouse


Hehe lets just all pretend that Russia is sending in the troops merrily lol

reply to post by princeofpeace


What makes you think that Australia would enter this war?
China owns Australia, just like it owns the USA.
It will tell these 2 countries to 'eff off".

There is no way that the US, the Russians and the Chinese are going to war over Syria. Get real people. Syria simply isn't worth it for any of these big dogs to tangle.

And whatever anybody thinks all three are big dogs. War isn't just about theoretical power (US would win in a theoretical paper count of assets and quality). There is the problem of locating assets to the needed locations, supplying them, and replacing them.

The Russians have a beautiful new tank that is probably the equal of the Abrams. Their front line aircraft are modern. A goodly portion of their military is not up to date and their Navy is no match. Nonetheless, if the rolled onto the battlefield US commanders would be nervous (so would the Russian commanders). The Chinese can't locate their forces in sufficient strength to be a major player in a Syria conflict. But they could play there nonetheless.

The Chinese could easily open up a second front somewhere else. That would be a problem and threaten US interests and resources.

Then there is the matter of industrial capacity if the war drags on. China has an advantage in several sectors of industry. It would take the US atleast a year to catch up to where the Chinese are now in heavy industry. The US certainly has the know how to match anybody in production. It's simply a matter of building up the infra-structure to what it was 20 years ago. Steel, electronics and some mining would be serious problems for a minute.

But, that's not all. With china as an adversary we would lose access to many common industrial components such as electrical transformers, pumps, etc. Would it cripple the US effort? No. IT would be a logistical problem,

We have not experienced total war since WWII. The ultimate abilities of titans like the US, Russia, and China to produce goods, get around seemingly impossible problems, and innovate new strategy and tactics is mind numbingly scary.

This is all academic. There is no way we are going to war with each other over Syria. Our economies would be wrecked. China and Russia would have demolished infra-structure since the US would use its' long range interdiction capacity to strike rail, powerplant, factory, hydro dams, ports, runways, etc in those countries. The ability of China or Russia to do the same to the US homeland is very limited barring nuclear war. I bet they'd get a piece of us though.

Russia is not unlike the US in education. There is a lot of very smart people there, and a lot more not so smart folks. Just like here. China too, has a lot of well educated people. Still the US and Russia both lead China in war making smarts.

As a parting note I'd like to mention some things about Chinas supposed fierce war capability. The chinese sub that famously infiltrated a US carrier formation done so when the US navy wasn't deployed in a war footing. No sona-buoys, also the good sonar is usually left off so the poor whales don't freak out and run aground.

Chinas ability to hack our critical systems is talked about a lot. It is very concerning. But does anybody seriously think that the US and Russia aren't just as capable, likely more capable? China has this inferiority complex going where they flaunt their systems and abilities. They like for it to be known that they have this and can do that. The stealth fighter they unveiled as a political card years before it will be operational is an example, not to mention their submarine stunt. Russia and the US are old hands at being big dogs and keep their good cards close to their chest. The stealth chopper that went down in the Bin Laden raid is a good example. No flaunting it. The remote space plane is another. Nobody knew it existed until it was on the launchpad and couldn't be hidden anymore. What about the two hubble sized space telescopes that were revealed this week when the NSA gave them to NASA as unneeded surplus?

Even the winner of a total war between these big dogs will be in rough shape. That is why it isn't going to happen over syria. It's all just political posturing.

Originally posted by Bearack
reply to post by cavtrooper7

 

The one thing I can at least say for the US military, they are the most battle hardened military force in the world.

Then why are they killing themselves? I heard a report today that a service member commits suicide on the average of one a day. I think that's more than the "enemy" in any of "our" "wars" kills.

reply to post by Erectus


Well, there is one reason that a large war would be created. Being leaders of countries and being citizens of countries are different things and there are things super powers could do to stimulate economies and trim populations involving starting a war. It does not seem impossible that Russia could be conferring with all the big countries about a major war to boost the world economy. Sort of like the game of Risk I played when I was young.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Russia/China vs US, Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Israel, India, Turkey, Greece, Belgium, Netherlands, Australia.

Should be a good one!!!

Germany and Italy won't take up arms against Russia. Regardless this is the WWIII that Chossudovsky predicted (see link). www.globalresearch.ca...

reply to post by frazzle


They are taking the easy way out

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Or reached the end of their rope. No one knows what's happening in those "conflicts" better than the troops and how many tours have most of them made, even after serious injuries and battling PTSD?

LOL ummmm okay. Your post is DEFINITELY short cut to think ing but this is ATS so what else is new? Carry on kid.

Originally posted by Sailor Sam
reply to post by princeofpeace

 

What makes you think that Australia would enter this war?
China owns Australia, just like it owns the USA.
It will tell these 2 countries to 'eff off".

reply to post by DoctorMobius


Yeah, England have enough relics consisting of rusted out shields and swords to bring down every country in the middle east. Give me a break, England are useless without the USA. Tell me the last time they won a major war ob their own? 1660 or something? They even struggled to defeat the black death...

OKAY-time to inject some sort of intelligence to this thread:

HAS ANYONE CONFIRMED THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD OR HAS IT TURNED INTO ANOTHER ATS 14 YR OLD PISSING MATCH OVER SOMETHING THAT ISNT EVEN HAPPENING????

Originally posted by Sailor Sam
reply to post by princeofpeace

 

What makes you think that Australia would enter this war?
China owns Australia, just like it owns the USA.
It will tell these 2 countries to 'eff off".

Since when did China own a country under the commonwealth? They may lease and buy land here but they don't own our country... It was only yesterday they were talking about leasing land in the northern Territory to other Asian nations to grow emergency food supplies.

We look at things as common people, not knowing what the leaders of the countries are really planning. We cannot comprehend what kind of planning the leaders are doing to fix the economic turmoil we are in. War has brought countries out of depression in the past but doesn't seem to be working right anymore. If it follows the way it did in the past we will be fighting a large war in a country like we did in Vietnam to repair the worlds economic structure.

OKAY-time to inject some sort of intelligence to this thread:

HAS ANYONE CONFIRMED THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD OR HAS IT TURNED INTO ANOTHER ATS 14 YR OLD PISSING MATCH OVER SOMETHING THAT ISNT EVEN HAPPENING????

In war you only own what you can hold or take. Debts and foreign investments mean nothing.

reply to post by princeofpeace


I dont think Turkey and Israel would fight side by side.
I dont think France, Greece or Italy can afford a fight
I dont think the US people would openly follow the US Criminals, err government into a massive war these days
... Australia's so desperate for US attention we'd probably send our best and brightest in first just to say we helped!

dang this world sucks atm!

reply to post by princeofpeace


This was happening months ago, its just another part of the story if it is correct. Russia have made there stand long before this came out.