Documents prove Obama was member of socialist New Party... (see for yourself)

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by anon72

 

If Obama is so proud of his ideals, why does he lie about them?

How many lies will be uncovered before people wake up!?

When the story of Obama's association with the New Party first broke in 2008,
Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt claimed that Obama had never been a member.www.breitbart.com...

And it looks like they are still in denial mode....



Axelrod Plays Dumb on Obama and Socialist 'New Party'

Gulp, there goes another 10,000 votes !!

I'm so sick of this BS. All the ammo you ever need against Obama is that he signed unconstitutional legislation into law. He signed the NDAA 2012. He and whole slew of Congress members have essentially committed treason, dating way back to the Patriot Act. Paving the way for Fascism that you're all happily running around on clucking about birth certificates and socialism etc...

A federal Judge even helped you out here, journalists won a lawsuit against the POTUS with the outcome being that provisions in the 2012 NDAA were beyond the scope of the Constitution. It barely made the news. Breitards Unlimited didn't cover it, the wingnut blogosphere didn't explode with accusations of treason. Not 3 days later Congress passed NDAA 2013 with the same unconstitutional provisions included.

Stop muddying the waters with your insanity!

Why do these blogtards NEVER focus on that, where is FOXNation on this...Oh excuse me, besides the Judge?? Oops he got fired shortly after, didn't he?

reply to post by Thunderheart


Don't worry about OS. People got him figured out... well most.

Remember, someone out there likes Obama and all of his lies, deceitfulness, back door politics, mis-steps, and so on and so on.

You aren't going to change the minds of people like him. But rest assured.... when Obama goes down in flames.. You won't be hearing much from O.S. about Obama.

I like his post because it keeps my threads on the main page with all of his attacking etc. GO OS!!!

Yes, he is also an Alien from Phobos and has raped approximately 16 little girls. Did I mention he sold ice cream as a kid?

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This just might suprise you all the Democrats that are members
Democratic Socialist Of America Caucus Member List These are DEMOCRATIC SOCALISTS of AMERICA

Co-Chairs

Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)

Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice ChairsHon. Diane Watson (CA-33)

Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)

Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)

Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

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Senate Members

Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

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House Members

Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)

Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)

Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)

Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)

Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)

Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)

Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)

Hon. André Carson (IN-07)

Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)

Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)

Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)

Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)

Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)

Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)

Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)

Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)

Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)

Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)

Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)

Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)

Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)

Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)

Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)

Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)

Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)

Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)

Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04).

Hon. John Hall (NY-19)

Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)

Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)

Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)

Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)

Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)

Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)

Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)

Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)

Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)

Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)

Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)

Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)

Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)

Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)

Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)

Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)

Hon. George Miller (CA-07)

Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)

Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)

Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)

Hon. John Olver (MA-01)

Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)

Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)

Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)

Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)

Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)

Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)

Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)

Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47

Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)

Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)

Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)

Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)

Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)

Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)

Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)

Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)

Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)

Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)

Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)

Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

Originally posted by Kali74
I'm so sick of this BS. All the ammo you ever need against Obama is that he signed unconstitutional legislation into law. He signed the NDAA 2012. He and whole slew of Congress members have essentially committed treason, dating way back to the Patriot Act. Paving the way for Fascism that you're all happily running around on clucking about birth certificates and socialism etc...

A federal Judge even helped you out here, journalists won a lawsuit against the POTUS with the outcome being that provisions in the 2012 NDAA were beyond the scope of the Constitution. It barely made the news. Breitards Unlimited didn't cover it, the wingnut blogosphere didn't explode with accusations of treason. Not 3 days later Congress passed NDAA 2013 with the same unconstitutional provisions included.

Stop muddying the waters with your insanity!

Why do these blogtards NEVER focus on that, where is FOXNation on this...Oh excuse me, besides the Judge?? Oops he got fired shortly after, didn't he?

Actually it goes deeper than all that.

Obama is a Marxist / Corporatist in a general sense.
(details are constantly adjusted per their agendas)

All large international corporations are tied into governments.

Most have public stockholders, most of which are actually financial holding companies and mutual funds that all seem to own one another. They are running the show.

Just look at the international structure of the central banks.
Even the few countries that appear to be bucking the central bank system are actually subs and proxies of other central banks.

The IMF and BIS control all international money payments and loans.

Many small businesses (even some small local corporations) are not part of that overall system on a large scale.

The small businesses keep most of the profits close to home.

The Marxist / Corporatist businesses don't. They exploit and send most of the profits back to the central office.

Obama and Co. are fighting to eliminate as much small business as possible as soon as possible.

Big difference.

The only way to fight it is to keep exposing the corruption.

Over and over and over as necessary.

reply to post by xuenchen


That isn't Marxist. It is Corporatist and it is Fascism. Who is profiting off the wars? Corporations, banks etc... Who is being served by our increasing authoritarian state? Corporations etc... That is the beginning of Fascism, there is no other word for it unless you invent one.

ETA You almost sound like an Occupier

reply to post by Plotus

This just might suprise you all the Democrats that are members
Democratic Socialist Of America Caucus Member List: DEMOCRATIC SOCALISTS of AMERICA

Their official name is "Congressional Progressive Caucus"

Many people believe that the ---> Congressional Progressive Caucus
may very well be a "communist" spin-off. Some even go as far as to associate the members with Agenda 21 and other globalist idealisms.

Their website IS part of the official "house.gov" site.

And they Are progressive and seem to be Democrats or Independents !!

I'm confident that all voters in the members' districts are fully aware of this affiliation


Caucus Members


The Progressive Promise


Congressional Progressive Caucus (keywiki)

Beware the Marxist ...

He operates under many disguises !!!

Originally posted by LeoStarchild

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by LeoStarchild
I try to ask people....When does his actions .. and those who back him become ...Traitorous?

I think I have my answer.

really?? HIS actions?? the right-wing republican supreme court ruled it constitutional, and legal (citizens united case) to allow ANY PERSON, ANY COUNTRY, in the world, to SECRETLY FUND any candidate in the federal elections for ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY they want...the supreme court republicans should be arrested, put on trial, and prosecuted for treason.

edit on 7-6-2012 by jimmyx because: context

Lol the supreme court is mostly liberal bud.. snap out of your trance.

liberal? and of course, you base this on nothing......read the decisions handed down.
2nd line

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by xuenchen

 

That isn't Marxist. It is Corporatist and it is Fascism. Who is profiting off the wars? Corporations, banks etc... Who is being served by our increasing authoritarian state? Corporations etc... That is the beginning of Fascism, there is no other word for it unless you invent one.

ETA You almost sound like an Occupier

edit on 7-6-2012 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)

It's very complicated.

You have to look at the International level.

Forget the textbook idealisms. Those were all written for a reason.

Fascism is only one tool.

Obama's level is one rung above the "single nation" agenda.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


The only people that pay into unemployment benefits are the employers....you have your facts wrong....entitlements are something you expect even though you never earned it....like welfare and food stamps and WIC and medicaid etc...don't use false arguments to further your socialist views and support for a lousy president.

reply to post by xuenchen


I do it see it on an international level, that doesn't change the fact that it is Fascism. Corporations are doing better under Obama than they did under Bush though you'd never know it from elected Right's whining. You'll never hear it come from Obama either he wants to keep his Left support. Regardless, the ammo is there...I guess people are just too stupid or it serves their interest as well, to use it.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by xuenchen

 

That isn't Marxist. It is Corporatist and it is Fascism. Who is profiting off the wars? Corporations, banks etc... Who is being served by our increasing authoritarian state? Corporations etc... That is the beginning of Fascism, there is no other word for it unless you invent one.

ETA You almost sound like an Occupier

edit on 7-6-2012 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)

See, that's where it gets confusing and what occupies our time, arguing Socialist vs Corporatism, and et. al. The titles given to economic models normally do not totally describe one model; especially, considering that just about all models are either made up theories or studied after they fail/succeed and then labeled.

We are in a mixed economy, just like Europe and many others. The 'mix' is where we are getting caught up defending. Some of the economies are more socialist and some are more capitalist. The U.S. is more capitalist than the others, but no where near what we were.

For one thing, capital markets do not get bailed out. No stimulus in capitalist markets. We've always had some form of social program, as we should. However, most of us argue on how much and how many programs to have? It's usually the ones who pay the most are the ones who want less and the ones who get more assistance are usually arguing for more. That's completely understandable.

The thing is, Obama's people want us to be Europe. Only, Europe ISN'T WORKING! Why in dog's name would we be moving towards that NOW? All while seeing what is happening?

If he had America's best interest at heart, he'd be doing exactly opposite of what he is doing. Exact opposite. THIS is the crux to it all. The birther argument, the socialist, the friends in low places, the DOJ, the Russian deal, ALL OF IT. It all points to his being anything other than American.

That is very concerning to many of us, as we are just trying to figure out WTF is going on? Some of us go with the birth cert, some with the back door deals, some with his socialist friends, but we are all looking for reason because none of us get it!

Bush, we understood (liked or not, irrelevent).
Clinton, we understood (no matter how we 'felt' about him)
Even Biden! He's easy.

But, Obama? Something is not right.

The saddest part of all of this is that those of you who defend, defend, defend, and defend with no end, REFUSE to understand our side. And that is a good reason to hold you all responsible, I know I will 'cause I've HAD IT!

reply to post by OutKast Searcher



Maybe if you hear it with your own ears...from the mouth of the liar himself.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by xuenchen

 

I do it see it on an international level, that doesn't change the fact that it is Fascism. Corporations are doing better under Obama than they did under Bush though you'd never know it from elected Right's whining. You'll never hear it come from Obama either he wants to keep his Left support. Regardless, the ammo is there...I guess people are just too stupid or it serves their interest as well, to use it.

Yes, the BIG international corporations.

The small local businesses are fending off some of the garbage.

Obama is good at disguising the agenda.

It's still all Marxism.

Notice how most of the stimulus loans and gifts went to international corporations.
(the big banks are international corporations too)

Most legislations in most governments in most nations always seem to benefit the larger companies.
Regardless of what a government's economic model is called.

Fascism is just one tool. It's still based on the Marxist / Corporatist international agenda, which has been around for over a hundred years in several forms !

Today's version is just an update and consolidation.

reply to post by xuenchen


It is not Marxism. Marxism is the seizure of production by the state and then the dividing of ownership of such among the people. Do you see that happening under Obama? Any hint of seizing Corporations? None whatsoever.

Well what do you know Glen Beck was telling the truth about Obama being a marxist socialist the entire time before this document.

Obama is a corporatist. I really could care less what club he was in as a youth. I judge him by his actions which are not socialist at all. It's funny how the people that complain about socialism have no clue what it even means.

I also hate to break it to you guys but the US is not a capitalist nation

I have to admit that I much prefer people with socialist leanings to the "don't tread on me" staunch individualistic right wingers. Somewhere there must be a balance between these two extremes..?

Lets go over this one more time... there is only ONE political party. And Obama isn't a part of it. Neither is Mitt Romney(who names their kid Mitt, anyways/), Stephen Harper, Ahnold, or anyone else that runs in these "elections".

Why do we still continue to worry about these idiots, when we should be focusing on the REAL problem?