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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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Obama’s Third-Party History:New documents shed new light on his ties to a leftist party in the 1990s.




On the evening of January 11, 1996, while Mitt Romney was in the final years of his run as the head of Bain Capital, Barack Obama formally joined the New Party, which was deeply hostile to the mainstream of the Democratic party and even to American capitalism. In 2008, candidate Obama deceived the American public about his potentially damaging tie to this third party. The issue remains as fresh as today’s headlines, as Romney argues that Obama is trying to move the United States toward European-style social democracy, which was precisely the New Party’s goal.

Recently obtained evidence from the updated records of Illinois ACORN at the Wisconsin Historical Society now definitively establishes that Obama was a member of the New Party. He also signed a “contract” promising to publicly support and associate himself with the New Party while in office.

Minutes of the meeting on January 11, 1996, of the New Party’s Chicago chapter read as follows:



Barack Obama, candidate for State Senate in the 13th Legislative District, gave a statement to the membership and answered questions. He signed the New Party “Candidate Contract” and requested an endorsement from the New Party. He also joined the New Party.

Consistent with this, a roster of the Chicago chapter of the New Party from early 1997 lists Obama as a member, with January 11, 1996, indicated as the date he joined.



Source: www.nationalreview.com...

DO a little digging, I found this on Obama and the New Party from 2008-covered up by... MSM.


Archives prove Obama was a New Party member (updated)

The New Party was a radical left organization, established in 1992, to amalgamate far left groups and push the United States into socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left. It was an attempt to regroup the forces on the left in a new strategy to take power, burrowing from within. The party only lasted until 1998, when its strategy of "fusion" failed to withstand a Supreme Court ruling. But dissolving the party didn't stop the membership, including Barack Obama, from continuing to move the Democrats leftward with spectacular success.

www.americanthinker.com...

Go ahead.... start it.... More proof Obama is just to the right of Chairman Mao Sye Tung-IMO.

What more do people need-Honestly. Unless, that is the way they want the country to go... As well as the MSM.

Come on people GET UP IN ARMS agains this moron. He IS NOT concerned with YOUR best interest. Only his and his followers... Are you a follower of his-still? FORWARD!!!!!!!






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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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I admit it, I voted for Obama in '08.

I didn't believe in "Hope" nor "Change", but I did believe that electing McCain = war with Iran, and being in the military at that time and knowing the strain the wars were putting on my brothers and sisters in service.... I could not vote for a warmonger. My wife chides me with this still.

It wasn't until I started seeing Obama's cabinet choices.. and czars... that I began to worry that I had made a mistake. Granted, one vote means nothing, but I felt as if I had been duped. Not by his grandios speeches or rhetoric, but by the system that gave me the lesser of two evils option.

What I find remarkable is the amount of documentation, even novels written by the man himself, that show his leanings, and yet we have people who claim to be anti-Socialist willing to fight for this man. To me, this illustrates the problem with the two-party system... your choices are always 'bad' or 'worse'.

We need a legitimate third party to keep the Big Two in check... someone with more drive than Ron Paul. I like RP, but the problem with him is that he is too self-depricating, I wish he would stick to his guns with more seriousness.

Thanks for posting this, even more solid evidence that our current President is not what he claims to be.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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why do some say, obama is the choice of the elite, like bilderberg, illuminati etc. ?



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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Thank you for an honest and open statement.

You are, I believe, the first person to admit this on one of my threads.

I don't blame people for voting for Obama in 2008. The way he was presented by the MSM and others, most people couldn't help but like him/support him. But, as each day passed we find out more and more.

So, when one is presented with such info/evidence etc, if they feel badly/tricked/deceived etc, then Doom On Obama.

Obama is bringing shame upon the US like we have never seen before. No, not with the Muslin countries but the rest of the world leaders look at Obama and laugh. Especially Russia, China and France's new president.

Do me/us a favor. Get out, educate others, vote and get others to vote. A real Grass Roots movement.


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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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And is anyone really surprised????

Everyone was told about his past and upbringing, yet the masses dismissed it in 08.


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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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He IS NOT concerned with YOUR best interest.


Care to show me where the capitalist system is concerned with my best interest?

What did I get out of the bailout of wall street and the banks? Nothing

What did I get out of the two wars the last capitalist president started? Nothing

What did I get out of the tax cuts that were given to the wealthy by the last capitalist president but excluded the poor and middle class? Nothing

I really don't see how capitalism has done me or anyone I know any good at all. A person would have to be blind to not see how unregulated capitalism has been a total failure in this country. The Mao comment was funny though maybe now it's time that you learn there are different types of socialism. You know like the ones that work.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010



He IS NOT concerned with YOUR best interest.


Care to show me where the capitalist system is concerned with my best interest?

What did I get out of the bailout of wall street and the banks? Nothing

What did I get out of the two wars the last capitalist president started? Nothing

What did I get out of the tax cuts that were given to the wealthy by the last capitalist president but excluded the poor and middle class? Nothing

I really don't see how capitalism has done me or anyone I know any good at all. A person would have to be blind to not see how unregulated capitalism has been a total failure in this country. The Mao comment was funny though maybe now it's time that you learn there are different types of socialism. You know like the ones that work.


It's also nice to see someone come out and actually admit that he doesn't want the America of the past.

If [SNIP] gets his election wish, you may also get yours.

Mod Edit: "You will not alter political candidate names or party affiliations in order to insult or deride the opposition. "
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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The only perfect society I have ever seen was the Earth in Gene Roddenberry's "Star Trek" universe.
I wish we could all be so noble as to work for the sake of advancing humanity, but we simply are too... greedy... to do such a thing now, or in the forseeable future.

I have never been a fan of socialism. I take pride in the fact that I earned a scholarship to college, dropped out, worked as a roofer for four years, joined the military, learned a very desirable skill that has now leveraged into a great career for me, and I can comfortably take care of my wife and our two sons.

Do I think I should pay more taxes? Yes. I don't like the idea, but it's not always about what we like but rather what we need.

What I like about capitalism is what I think you despise about it... the competition. The knowledge that if I outwork/outhink/outhustle those around me I can advance my station. Is that a good thing? Yes and no. But I will tell you I have ethics about it... I do not gossip nor backstab, and I always give credit to others for contributions or if their work/product is superior to mine. It is dog-eat dog, but it does not have to be, which is the way I practice my form of capitalism.

I do not agree with the wealth gap, but if a CEO has done his job well and with honor and steered his company with decency and vision, he is worth whatever his/her company is willing to pay.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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If Obama is so proud of his ideals, why does he lie about them?

How many lies will be uncovered before people wake up!?


When the story of Obama's association with the New Party first broke in 2008,
Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt claimed that Obama had never been a member.www.breitbart.com...






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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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I have never been a fan of socialism. I take pride in the fact that I earned a scholarship to college, dropped out, worked as a roofer for four years, joined the military, learned a very desirable skill that has now leveraged into a great career for me, and I can comfortably take care of my wife and our two sons.


You say you aren't a fan of socialism but it seems you had no problem using it for your advantage. The VA, the military, the fire department, and the police department are all socialist entities. They operate collectively for the collective benefit of everyone.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Good points, sir.

Let me clarify... I don't like a lot of the 'ideas' behind socialism. I understand the need for things such as a fire and police department, they are underpinnings of modern society and without them things would get very bad, very quickly. I don't like the 'entitlement' society we have in this nation today, I think it is a corrosive mindset and makes people complacent when we should be striving to make a better future for our children. I know the only thing I am entitled to is the inevitability of death. Life is never going to be fair and I understand that, and I'm certain that you do as well.

As for military benefits, they are indeed nice. I also think they are well-deserved considering the risks and hardships involved in military life. I was fortunate to have been at the birth of my first son when I was in the Navy; others I knew weren't so lucky. But it's a choice we made when we signed the contract.

I enjoy the freedom of capitalism, the knowledge that if my sons apply themselves and work hard they can be even more successful and happy than I am and that their lives will be richer than mine. I enjoy knowing that they can choose their own path regardless of the fact that I am a cyber analyst and my wife is an attorney... they can be in ballett if that makes them happy, and I'll support them regardless.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by Dreine
 



Thank you for an honest and open statement.

You are, I believe, the first person to admit this on one of my threads.

I don't blame people for voting for Obama in 2008. The way he was presented by the MSM and others, most people couldn't help but like him/support him. But, as each day passed we find out more and more.

So, when one is presented with such info/evidence etc, if they feel badly/tricked/deceived etc, then Doom On Obama.

Obama is bringing shame upon the US like we have never seen before. No, not with the Muslin countries but the rest of the world leaders look at Obama and laugh. Especially Russia, China and France's new president.

Do me/us a favor. Get out, educate others, vote and get others to vote. A real Grass Roots movement.


It was a good honest statement, many were deceived. Unfortunately, deceived as a result of listening to what we were "spoon fed" by the MSM rather than doing our own research. This is an excellent example as it comes from the 90's, the last decade of the 20th century, we are now in the second decade of the 21st century. Some of this is trickling out now but a LOT was readily available long before the last election, enough to get a pretty good fix on who barry really was/is.

The problem as he pointed, out and I couldn't agree more strongly, is a system where we are compelled to vote for the "lesser of two evils". The last election was an excellent example of what happens as a result. While I feel barry should have been vetted better by both the media and individual voters I'm not too hard on any person's selection last time around. There was no good choice and voting for the "lesser of two evils" is subjective but you are still voting for evil.

Of course there are other ways to look at it, try to find something positive. For example, Hitler was one of the most evil men in history. He ordered the mass genocide of 6 million Jews and was pretty much responsible for kicking off World War II. Although, on the plus side, if he hadn't have done all that there would be no Call of Duty: World at War.
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Dreine
reply to post by buster2010
 


The only perfect society I have ever seen was the Earth in Gene Roddenberry's "Star Trek" universe.
I wish we could all be so noble as to work for the sake of advancing humanity, but we simply are too... greedy... to do such a thing now, or in the forseeable future.

I have never been a fan of socialism. I take pride in the fact that I earned a scholarship to college, dropped out, worked as a roofer for four years, joined the military, learned a very desirable skill that has now leveraged into a great career for me, and I can comfortably take care of my wife and our two sons.

Do I think I should pay more taxes? Yes. I don't like the idea, but it's not always about what we like but rather what we need.

What I like about capitalism is what I think you despise about it... the competition. The knowledge that if I outwork/outhink/outhustle those around me I can advance my station. Is that a good thing? Yes and no. But I will tell you I have ethics about it... I do not gossip nor backstab, and I always give credit to others for contributions or if their work/product is superior to mine. It is dog-eat dog, but it does not have to be, which is the way I practice my form of capitalism.

I do not agree with the wealth gap, but if a CEO has done his job well and with honor and steered his company with decency and vision, he is worth whatever his/her company is willing to pay.



You had me until you wrote this:


Do I think I should pay more taxes? Yes. I don't like the idea, but it's not always about what we like but rather what we need.

I do believe that Florida has no state income taxes, though. Think about the rest of us who pay through the nose state income taxes which in some states is more than federal.

Basically, our paying yearly taxes is state blackmail: if you don't pay or can't pay enough, the IRS will get you and in the states case, the state tax commissions. Those trillions Obama gave away, which are and will be our tax monies, could have paid a whole lot of citizens taxes.

But you know, presidential elections are expensive...


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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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If Obama is such a Socialist...why do true Socialist not like him and call him a Corporate Capitalist???

If Obama is such an extreme left winger...why do the extreme left wingers say he is such a right winger???


Right wingers hate him, Left wingers hate him...the only logical conclusion is that he is somewhere in the Center...which is where we should want our leaders to be.



I love all the recycled Obama stories though...it's cute.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Wow, none of the sources you quote don't have an agenda against Obama, huh?
National Review? American thinker? Erik Erickson? Might as well let Karl Kove spoon feed you your news.
Republicans sign an oathe from Grover Norquist to NEVER raise taxes, now that is not only Republican stupid but Facism. You down with that? Your sources paint everything Left with a "radical" tag and then you say the MSM Helped cover this up. Not exactly "BOMBSHELL" info unless you read it from disingenuous "far Right Wing" press about info that is 12 years old. Scaring people with"socialism"? I'm more afraid of Right Wing Facism!
Nixon
Regan
Bush 1
Bush2
Hell, I'm with you, let's throw some [SNIP] in prison! Bush 1 is still alive and needs to be procesuted for Iran/Contra!
Remember that little bit of undermining American values? No? Plenty of proof and witnesses to prosecute! No guts? Trading weapons to IRAN!!!! Cia sell coc aine in Calif behind the Congress, Senate, and your MSM's back? Using all this to steal an election but where's the outrage?
In the end Obama is right of center because the reactionary Right can't stand to be out of power, that's why since 1980 they can't stand to have a Democrat in the Presidency. The only 2 in 30 years have been discredited as illigetimate by the Right and labeled as "no good SH--ts"! But these 2 have gotten us in the mess we have now?
Meanwhile if you don't like the Pres. now you claim what he's GOING TO DO, and he's a "no good [SNIP]" for doing it dispite what he's been doing looks nothing like a Socialist (you'd like everyone to think Communist wouldn't you?). Go ahead make the Health Care plan sound like it will cost us our lives and money when we are the last giant country to use this solution that covers all Americans.
The funniest part of you Right Wing ATS militants is you've forgotten the Facism the Right has been pulling us toward for 50 years. But no, the present regime is who we should fear conveniently forgetting the last regime.
If you go by proof of the Pres. In the last 3 years being a "dangerous" Socialist or radical Muslim or the worst thing to happen to America you don't have a leg to stand on!
Deny ignorance and read something that doesn't have an "our only job is to defeat Obama" or you will just prove your delusions.

Mod Edit: Removed censor circumvention. Also: Please tone down the political name-calling.
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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funny
I thought they all hated him because he never tells the truth

funny the obama detractors at least post unforged docs
the ##snip## naught so much if at all
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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I do believe that Florida has no state income taxes, though. Think about the rest of us who pay through the nose state income taxes which in some states is more than federal.


Correct, there is no state income tax in Florida. We catch it on sales tax here... especially on my food bill with two boys, they can put away some food!

What I mean by more taxes is me being idealistic and 'hoping' (beyond hope) that said taxes will be used in good honor and faith on things like education, infrastructure, and research/technology... not for paying for people that can work who choose NOT to work.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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No, actually that's why we hate the Republicans. Can you tell me where the right has been truthful in any dealings with the Pres?



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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As for military benefits, they are indeed nice. I also think they are well-deserved considering the risks and hardships involved in military life.


Dare I say that you feel ENTITLED to your military benefits???



It appears you only hate socialism that you don't benefit from....that is a bit hypocritical.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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