reply to post by Germanicus
The old tirade of vs ism's the disparities on the minds of the people who know only what they have been thought and seen, and most importantly what
they have been thought to think and see as. Your arguing with the horse at the water hole why he does not drink, merely a matter of perspective and
egos. But more to the point a matter of timing, because the horse is just not thirsty, when it is it will drink.
Every dog has his day, the truth is all will fail in the end. So ya the whole of history can only be littered with failures for progress to be
achieved, because that is how we judge our current predicaments, by the wow's and failures of the past, the talking and hot wind being blow around
the whole he said, she said, they said, who has the bigger house and the greenest lawn, is just water cooler talk.
You see what your arguing about is "words" a human is no different then from a robot, and like a robot it to is programmed. So ya capitalism
isn't going to fail, it did fail in fact the whole time it was not even capitalism people just thought it was, just like they think its a democracy,
or a republic, or a autocracy, or any other such thing that takes there fancy in any given age. Each and all are merely an expression into there
psyche and soul. People are just slow they will get it in a few years that the world they thought they lived in was all in there heads. Just like
they always have.
In fact all those who call themselves capitalists today and in the past are more akin to socialists or communists then actual capitalists in the very
meaning of the word. For you see you can call yourself anything you want as long as you have majority consensus that you are that, in fact its exactly
like selling a record all you need is to convince a whole bunch of people that its actually good music, Or like you said 50 cent, at best to me he
is a bellow average musician. But with the power of the media and if you attach yourself to certain big huplas going on, even the crappiest of
things can become the best seller, a lot of it is just attaching yourself to fads and the coolest things on the scene going on. In the end its all a
matter of opinions, and the opinions/tastes of the masses.
Humanity is a species prone to delusions, how else can they hold two contradicting facts in there heads and believe them both. So ya basically
all of the great capitalistic ventures are the result of socialistic measures.
And if you repeat something long enough no matter how false or
stupid it becomes true, especially if you do it day in day out non stop. And what do you think is going on on the TV...Exactly that. You know why
there still arguing about the same old # they been arguing for the past hundred years...Because there not trying to solve or move on to anything,
there trying to control and install mass mental pictures of how the world is. Like I said, programming. Now people cant you all just return to your
daily scheduled programming.
The words are just window dressing, something for the sheep to look at as they chew the cud. Wana know the truth, and since you seem to admire the
samurai structure of old japan. Well back when warrior class ruled things, we had warrior tyrants. And back when the priestly class ruled things we
had priestly tyrants. And now in the age of merchants we have mercantile tyrants. And off-course there is the flip side of the coin in that as well,
since not all warrior structures were tyrannical and not all priestly structures were tyrannical and not all mercantile structures are
tyrannical...But more oft then not if left to there own devices there is only one place it will and can go. Corruption and degeneration.
Because your more then dealing with words such as socialism and capitalism, your dealing with a hive of people and minds, to look at it in terms of
words and there singular meaning is to see only a quarter of the picture. The words are just things they have been thought to believe mean something,
like bots, not all that much different then being programmed. What I am saying is, One day when there little worlds fall apart they will need to
really take a look around and ask themselves "why" is this happening. Till then its all just water under the bridge.
And the reason why capitalism works so well, is because it adheres to humanities strongest emotion and what they at there core crave and are the most,
over all the other things that they are. And that thing is..Greed. Simple really, you make a society and system based on greed, so that way you know
were the weakest link in the chain is, and you know were it will go down the river of history, and as such you can direct its course.
So ya I agree with some things you said bro, so carry on my wayward soldier, we shall see if you change any minds.