Witnesses come forward: Romney impersonated Michigan State Police in College

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by LifeInDeath

 

Google sociopath. Then Google psychopath. You're not 'at least' a psychopath, if not a sociopath. Proved my point. Thanks. Also, don't really like Mittens, just supporting him because it's SO popular to bash him at the moment.

I've read extensively about both, don't need to google it. My fault is that I probably wasn't clear in my meaning. To me there's a matter of degree between the two in that psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made, usually through trauma at an early age. They aren't identical but they are very similar in many ways. To me it's always seemed that a psychopath is sort of like the purer form between two types of similar mentalities, that's what I meant.

I have my own pet theory based on observation and personal experience over the years, that a lot of this kind of behavior can be learned later in life and that people can make conscious decisions to start acting in this way, to turn off their empathy. Maybe they're not true sociopaths, maybe they are sort of pseudo-sociopaths (pseudo-psychopaths?).

I think there's something in modern business culture, and it may be taught at business schools, that gets people thinking in these ways. Obviously, there's also something about the culture that just simply attracts a lot of these types of people, too so sussing out which is which on an individual basis can be hard. From my own experience, I found myself getting very hard and callous in dealing with people, especially when working in film where I was in a position of some small level of power accepting or rejecting works by writers and directors. My level of empathy really started to plummet and at a certain point I didn't like what I was becoming. That world was very cruel sometimes and very Machiavellian and the more ice-cold people could be, the better they seemed to fare. I eventually found my limits, though, and it was a big reason why I left the business.

ew, you have him now. Smoking gun! Wow, a college prank 40 years ago! This will do him in! Get a life.

This does not surprise me and would be in 'character' for him since he is after all flip flop Romney.
Anything to get elected and pull the wool over people's eyes in order to become one of the elite and continue the same status quo, same as Obama. And the sheep lap it up.

Nothing to see here.

Originally posted by lives
This guy will do whatever to be whomever. A true coward and chameleon.

Good for you LifeInDeath.
Wish we had more of your kind in politics and business.

Originally posted by LifeInDeath

I think there's something in modern business culture, and it may be taught at business schools, that gets people thinking in these ways. Obviously, there's also something about the culture that just simply attracts a lot of these types of people, too so sussing out which is which on an individual basis can be hard. From my own experience, I found myself getting very hard and callous in dealing with people, especially when working in film where I was in a position of some small level of power accepting or rejecting works by writers and directors. My level of empathy really started to plummet and at a certain point I didn't like what I was becoming. That world was very cruel sometimes and very Machiavellian and the more ice-cold people could be, the better they seemed to fare. I eventually found my limits, though, and it was a big reason why I left the business.

edit on 6/7/2012 by LifeInDeath because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Domo1
I have a couple of sources that have also assured me Romney was in fact the Florida cannibal. I wonder how many people are going to say they arent surprised because he is so obviously a sociopath. Those posters will also have no idea what a sociopath actually is, but think it makes them sound interlekual kinda like ad hominem or shill. Blah.

Wouldn't a sociopath be pretty much perfectly positioned as an evolutionary example of humanity?

I'd never really thought about it before the other day, but it seems to me that morals and right/wrong fly in the face of evolutionary theory, so a sociopath would basically be a perfectly-evolved human, at least from the mental angle.

As to the OP and your response here...I've got to agree (I think...getting foggy again today) somewhat. I don't really think this gets quite to the level of sick puppy or horrible offense as boys will be boys. Unless there was a tendency of blatant abuse and outright crime resulting from this, I'd have to say is a bit of a non-issue.

And yes, that's me defending Romney again. And no, I still don't like him, so I don't want to be reminded about this later.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer



....and Obama used and distributed Cocaine, Marijuana and other drugs according to himself. Those were serious felonies and had he been caught even once, he would have been thrown out of school and would likely be a nobody right now. Just the Cocaine back then would have meant a prison sentence and a felony record. He'd be just another College dropout who's life was destroyed by drugs. Not getting caught is the only reason he made it where he is.

This form of politics is disgusting and I think most people are sick to death of it. Mature Voters are far more interested in the real issues.

What sins did you commit in your youth?

Also are those doing the story telling Progressive activist themselves? Can they be trusted?

This is just more election year nonsense. Dredging up things people did in their youth is as I said, disgusting. Which side it comes from does not matter. Both Parties do it and that is a big reason I can't become involved with either one.

Just as an off-topic aside. I think the oddest post in this thread came from page 1:

This guy will do whatever to be whomever. A true coward and chameleon.

And the poster was referring to Romney!?!

We've been blinded by partisanship already.

I don't care. I'd vote for anyone over Obama.

Romney creeps me out.

reply to post by Praetorius


No. A psycopath would. There is a difference. If we're using thechically outdared terms.

Lets see,

Straps dog to the roof of the car √

Impersonates police √

Consistantly lies √

Attacked student and shaved his head √

This guy doesn't seem mentally fit, supposing the claims are true.

reply to post by Domo1
While it's a small thing to quibble over: are you sure?

From dictionary.com (please feel free to provide more appropriate and up-to-date sources as necessary):

Sociopath:
noun
Psychiatry. a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

The moral and social conscience aspects are what I was referring to. From an evolutionary standpoint, they seem to serve no purpose.

Psychopath - according to the same source, at least - is similar, but excessive as far as I can tell as a sociopath (IMO) may still form meaningful relationships - to one's own benefit, at least, and is not necessarily egocentric.

Perhaps more semantics than anything, granted. Or reference sources may lack updating.

Liberal desperation. Starting early, isn't it? Watch for more made-up stories in the near future.

"I saw Mitt Romney eating a baby during a satanic ritual in boy scouts." I bet it will get almost that ridiculous.

Remember kids - they will say anything, they will do anything.

FYI, I do not like Romney. I expect things to go from bad to worse in November regardless of which one of these politards gets elected.

This is exactly what's wrong with today's society. There's got to come a time when what people have done YEARS AGO is let go. I am SURE that most people have a skeleton in their closet. I am equally sure that almost ALL of those people with said skeletons would have now become good people who have a list a mile long of GOOD things they have done. And if any past wrong is "exposed" I wonder how many people would squirm if the perp turned around and said, "that's funny, you look at me differently now, but I'm the same person today as I was yesterday and you liked me yesterday". How about that, me writing this and even though it means nothing what I think since I'm not in the USA, if I were, I would definately NOT be voting for any GOP rep due to what seems to be the fanatical god following and risk that church and state would be further intertwined.

reply to post by steve1709


You know what I did in college? My brothers and I went up to the campus one night where our friend was the campus police officer on duty. We drove around til we found him, then we did something illegal, and tore off through the campus - on the sidewalks. He turned on his lights and chased us through the whole campus - on sidewalks, down stairs, under pedestrian bridges that we caught epic air under. After about 45 minutes of this, we all went back to the campus security office and hung out and had a good laugh.

This was a small commuter campus, so there was no one around. He was the only person on campus so there were no safety issues, in case you're wondering. So long story short, whoever is coming up with this crap on Romney is either getting paid by the DNC to exaggerate some college silliness, or it's a totally made up story.

Originally posted by Praetorius
Wouldn't a sociopath be pretty much perfectly positioned as an evolutionary example of humanity?

I'd never really thought about it before the other day, but it seems to me that morals and right/wrong fly in the face of evolutionary theory, so a sociopath would basically be a perfectly-evolved human, at least from the mental angle.

Well, since a person becomes a sociopath due to things that happen to him there's nothing genetic about it, it wouldn't be something that shows up in the genetic code.

If you were to ask the same about psychopaths, who seem to be born that way, I would counter that while it seems to be advantageous for many of those who are that way -- they tend to be highly intelligent and often very successful due to ruthlessness in getting ahead in life -- from an evolutionary standpoint, having a conscience is useful to a species as a whole because it creates an instinct for altruism and mutual aid, even at ones own expense. Altruistic behavior is why mothers help their young at their own (often very great) expense, why individuals form social bonds of mutual assistance, thus forming clans, tribes and eventually nations and civilizations in the case of humans. Being bonded with others of your own kind creates mutual assistance, and there's strength in numbers. For these reasons, altruistic behavior is evolutionary beneficial and is probably strongly selected for.

As the real dirt starts to come out about Obama, (not really come out, it's just becoming more open) this is the best you can do about Romney? You folks are really scraping the bottom here. It has the look and smell of desperation.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


I'm no fan of Romney and will not be voting for him but I typically let things like this go. Just high school/college hijinks. Nothing more.

Remember when the media tried to make a huge deal out of Rand Paul's 'Aqua Buddha' frat initiation? Like it was some sort of horrible satanic ritual co-ed sex abuse brain washing?

Romney just sounds like he was pulling pranks and being a stupid kid.

And Palin went to church, and, and, had a disabled child, and, and, shot little bunnies from a helicopter, and , yea, and, was stupid, and, did I say she went to church , oh, yea, and she, umm sucked, umm yea,

I am afraid it aint gonna work this time.

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