This is a Sexist Thread! (Men's Rights)

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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:16 AM
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I believe that as a male member of ATS, I should have the right to celebrate my masculine pride by posting a photo of my genitals. brb camera batteries finished charging.




posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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A woman who hates you, will spend hours and days, even weeks and months, talking to your wife and getting her to leave you. A woman who hates you, will undermine your work ... backtalk you, she will sleep with your boss to get you fired. A woman will have you excluded from social gatherings, because she doesn't like you. A woman who doesn't like you, will never listen to your version of any story ... she won't like your ideas, or anything about you. She'll ruin your business, and ruin your life. And you don't have to know her, she only has to "not like you".

That is a womans verions of "freedom of thought", and "equal rights". These rights, applies to her ... not you.

A man's version, is less cruel ... although more violent. It's the "you hit me, I hit you ... so let's stay on our own side of the bar". This is a viable peace offer, but this peace offer of the basic neanderthal in you and me, is always taken out of balance ... "by the pretty woman in red, who wants to know which one of us is a better stud" ... at which time, the neanderthal in us takes over.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:23 AM
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I am a woman and I am certainly not a feminist. I know our limits but I also know our strengths. I find most of what you wrote little boy's dribble. I can understand that you are peed off about certain things and I agree with them but some are leaving me speechless because no thought has gone into the argument.

About the cancer inequality:

There are just as many awareness campaigns in the UK about prostate cancer and testicular cancer than breast cancer. Problem is not many men seem to want to go to their GP with problems out of embarrassment. Therefore to hire specialist nurses may at this moment in time not a viable options. If more men would come forward, they would have to up their staff. It is as simple as that.

About the abortion business:

I disagree with this so much. Of course it is up to the woman to abort a child. After all it is her body that has to cope with the hormonal changes, pain, maybe even post natal depression [which can lead to suicide] or even death during child birth. Men are in absolutely no danger whatsoever. What are you suggesting, tying women down who want an abortion until the baby is born? Ludicrous. If there was no danger or pain associated with carrying a child, you may have a point but as it stands you don't.



Do Schools have a men's studies class?

I agree with that, in the same way I don't see the point of groups just for blacks or other minorities. However maybe, just maybe blacks and women didn't have as good as men in the past and these classes are trying to show them that they are worth the same?


Custody dilemma:

Both agree and disagree. In most cases there is a special bond between a mother and the child she carried for 9 months. I would kill if someone would take the child from me. On the other hand there are blatantly useless mothers, where the father should absolutely get custody. Maybe the system needs overhauling?


Domestic violence:

Yes, we all know that men get also abused. However you can say what you want, men to women violence is still far far far far greater and results very often in death. Two women a week are killed by their partners as it stands!
In other countries women get their noses cut off, get acid thrown in their faces are raped and treated like dogs. There is no way it is the same for men. Also men have exactly the same right to report violence as women have. So no you are not discriminated against in this case!

I lost the rest but I could go on and on. Men have ruled for a long time, often treated women worse than animals [still do in many parts of the world]. Now we are clawing back our rights and of course it hurts because life becomes less comfortable for men. So they start whining. Of course not all men are like that [thankfully]. If you have enough self esteem you will know that you have to give a little.
I repeat that I am no feminist, meaning that I don't want to be able to do everything than men do. Women are too different for that and we have our limits. All we want is to be treated like human beings. And sometimes the law exaggerates and gives women more rights than men. Which I disagree with!!!

Read again: I disagree with having more rights than men. However the examples given are not all viable and sound like someone is picking nits that don't exist. In general, try and see it from both sides as I do and don't ask for rights that you can't possibly get. Men have limits too!



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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quite comical....do you think that posting your genitals will make you more masculine? Or better yet...do you think that it will earn you points? Hell...I could post my "genitals" and gonna guess it would get way more hits than yours..............hehe!



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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If there was a way a man could control his sperm, or invent a method of birth control that could be used by a man...
Instantly, in the heat of the moment.

To just take a pill or something that would prevent pregnancy.
Then we would have power.
True power to keep our women in line. Just think of the implications of a man with that kind of control. I know, there are ways to do this now, but if there was an easy split-second method, a method that could be used discretely with no notice by anyone but the man himself.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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Posting genital pics on the interweb is plus 5 points.

2nd.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:34 AM
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Men are more likely to be arrest for the same crime as a woman. It is injustice and I am glad someone made a thread like this to bring these things into light.

We have to remember though, we need EQUAL rights for MEN and WOMEN, if we only focus on "men's right" it'll get carried away; just as feminism went from women's rights to special rights...

Women were taught that it is good to work. The woman is supposed to breast-feed and now she is out working leaving her children somewhere else.

And why do people say, "there is never an excuse to hit a woman"? Why not just say "there is never an excuse to hit"? Are they saying that hitting men should be encouraged?

Why is it that men are always fighting in war? Why do woman not have to sign up for recruitment?

It is crazy.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:34 AM
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Some of the injustices you've mentioned are the direct result of years and years of marginalization/social exclusion, in a 'you reap what you sow' kind of way. I'm not proud of how women have been viewed/treated by society throughout history and it's all a reflection of how these dynamics work,



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by petrus4
OP, I'd encourage you to fairly simply give up.

Yes, I largely agree with you that there are a lot of double standards where men and women are concerned; but I can let you in on a little secret here, which might save you some time.

There are a number of feminists in the world, who do not consider men to have the fundamental right to exist.

I'm not talking about these women wanting to subjugate men. I'm talking about a scenario where they literally want to remove and erradicate one half of the human species. They don't want us on the planet at all any more. We are considered redundant and disposable, and it is believed that there is no legitimate reason for us to continue to exist. Supposedly, men don't serve any useful purpose at all. Apart from a form of biological IVF, apparently we were just an evolutionary mistake.

My advice to you would be to recognise the genuinely decent women who do exist in the world, and make friends with them, as their friendship is worth having; but do not seek to get into a relationship. Do not bother to seek any recognition for the at times genuine social injustice that is inflicted upon men, either. You will fail utterly. Men are never considered, in this society, to ever be anything other than instigators of injustice themselves, and even most men have been indoctrinated to believe this.

I understand that as a man, I am regarded as being rubbish. I am considered disposable. I am considered literally worthy of being put into someone's wheelie bin, and emptied into a compactor.

As a result, I've made the decision that the worst thing I can do, is to acknowledge my own need for women; physically, psychologically, or in any other way. This is because, given the fact that many contemporary women view the male gender itself as being entirely redundant and worthless, a relationship with a woman cannot result in anything other than inequality, because I would be making myself vulnerable in ways which she would not be willing to.
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this is insane...........i'm sorry if you have feelings of no self worth, but this is ridiculous. and by the way who needs the so called PTB dividing us when we do such a wonderful job ourselves? cut the crap and grow up. we are all in this together and we should realize it is up to us to treat the opposite sex with respect and love.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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You've never met a true alpha, sorry to say. I wish you the fortune of meeting this dynamic individual.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by kat2684
I'm a woman and I totally agree OP, men come to bias especially over matters of the family. Also I personally don't lke the demasculization of men, you have so many men who are a body part away from a unic (sp?) on tv.Where are the real men out there? They are too busy working their buts off providing for their families. In short men rock!!! When TSHTF we will need you.
very kind, but i think it's important that you know, and you may already, that you are just as much capable of making things happen than any other man is. we have to learn we are truly equals. sometimes we play different roles, but we should always be equals.
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by vkey08
I agree on everything you've written save one argument... and that's the right to force a woman to carry a child full term if she so decides not to (under certain conditions of course)


There is no "certain conditions" here.

The choice, is when the chose to have sex without protection. That was your choice, the rest is your responsibility. The fact that you say "it's my body" is an example of women's selfishness. You only think of yourslef, and no one else ... it's not a question of a life you carry, but rather a burder you carry ... it's not "you" who got pregnant, it's some guy who "made" you pregnant. It's never your fault ... and the only choice you consider, is the choice of not having any responsibility.

After birth, many women keep their children because of the "child support".

In majority of womens minds, it's "money" that counts. They aren't "fighting" for any rights ...

We can take it down to the animal level. Man being the stronger, he is being "judged" by the amount of food he brings to the table. The woman prepares the food, and "soothes" the man by sharing his bed ... the act, is not an act of love ... it's an act of "temper management" by the woman. The man, being the head of his family, counts his posessions in the size of his tribe. The tribe are his "descendants", he is sowing his seed into the earth ...

It's only "we" the modern man, who has become weak. We no longer can be the tribal warrior, so we want to have a "tribe" or family of our own, despite our lack of food on the table. The idea of love, is most likely more "male" than female in it's origin. The idea of the "loser" male, to keep his household ... despite his lack of masculinity. The idea, that the "woman" will return to his house ... even after the neighboring "stronger" (richer, wealthier) has dragged her away on her hair ... that she'll be like the lokal dog, she'll return home, rather than stay where there is more food.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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Completely agree.

All this alpha BS has gotten out of hand. Even just hearing the term makes me laugh now because I picture some wanker frat boy wearing a t-shirt one size too small and a backwards hat going around pubs looking for fights. Funny thing about these self-proclaimed alphas: Whenever they start a fight, their friends always pile in too. Ever notice that? But I thought alphas were supposed to fight their own battles



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:49 AM
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There is, just don't have sex. There ya go! Problem solved.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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Are you serious? I have been married for twenty years, I have no need or desire anyone else, and I never will. I have learned we were put on this earth to complement each other, not dominate. I am not evil, nor power hungry, never had a desire for power, never understood it.

You sir, are slightly scary in your obvious hate towards women.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:55 AM
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All these "mens rights" people must have had horrible mothers or can't get laid. I really don't know what their problem is. If you want more funding for prostate cancer then start a campaign for it. If you want custody of your child then fight for it. If you want to have a power of abortion then grow a uterus. This is a bunch of nonsensical whining.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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here is another example.

If you watch a tv show or commercial with a wife and a husband, how often is that husband portrayed as an idiot.

You will never see the wife portrayed that way, that would be sexist.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by ScytheofTime
To just take a pill or something that would prevent pregnancy.
Then we would have power.
True power to keep our women in line.


Oh come on, how many men don't go to the local sperm bank to donate their sperm. Just in the hope, that there will be a woman out ther who wants his sperm ...

The woman has always had the true power. The idea of "amazon women" isn't anything new ... the story of "lesbia", is several thousands years old.

And don't let "islam" blind you, because it's just a short time in the middle east history and the amount of women rulers can be read in biblical stories, such as "johannes the babtist", and in Cleopatra the great. And don't let yourself get fooled about "women being forced to marry by their father", because this "forcing" was equally done on men and women. The historical view, that only women were "forced" is a typical example of feminism ... their view is that "men" are just cattle, and that it only matters to a woman whome she marries. Which of course, is total and utter nonsense.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by bjarneorn
Oh come on, how many men don't go to the local sperm bank to donate their sperm. Just in the hope, that there will be a woman out ther who wants his sperm ...

This is something that I would never do. The idea of knowing that I could possibly have a kid somewhere that I've never even seen is quite disturbing.
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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At my local Gym Sunday is woman's only, this has always irritated me and I bet it irritates most men but we don't complain as much as females. If there were a mens only day or even group you can bet all the women would be protesting that its "sexist"

"Sexist" like the word "racism" now only apply to specific groups. A Man can be sexist but a woman cant, a white person can be "racist" but a black person cant





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