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Originally posted by flyswatter
Originally posted by Lillli
I don't think it's due until the end of June but one never knows. I read the 19th of June but that was only an astrology forecast.
Anyway .... debunk away!
Original birth certificate ——————————————Unavailable
Obama/Dunham marriage license -—————————Unavailable
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ————————— Unavailable
Soetoro adoption records-————————————— Unavailable
Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records-——- Unavailable
Punahou School records-——————————————Unavailable
Occidental College records —————————————Unavailable
Passport (Pakistan) -———————————————— Unavailable
Columbia College ——————————————————Unavailable
Columbia thesis ———————————————————Unavailable
(Topic: Nuclear Disarmament, written during Cold War ’83)
Harvard College records -————————————-——Unavailable
Harvard Law Review articles ————————————— Unavailable
(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned)
Baptism certificate ——————————————————Unavailable
Medical records -———————————————————Unavailable
Illinois State Senate records -—————————————None
Illinois State Senate schedule —————————————Lost
Law practice client list ———————————————— Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles –——————-— None on file
Indonesian Besuki School Application————————-—*Located
(Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”
Selective Service Registration- -— -*Released, but under investigation as fraudulent
Did you just cut and paste this list from somewhere that was trying to copy the list at nachumlist.com... Or maybe obamarecords.com...?
Anyway ... here you go:
Original birth certificate, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Soetoro adoption records, Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Passport (Pakistan), Columbia College, Harvard College records, Baptism certificate, Medical records - These are covered by my prior statements. Sorry bud - no money required to hide any of these, as you can't obtain them without the explicit permission of the involved parties. And honestly, I'm not sure you'd be able to get some of these even WITH written permission - his presence may be required to get some of this. I'm sure that rules regarding this vary slightly from school to school. But at the very least, these things are none of our business unless he makes them so. No effort, no money required. Sorry to bust your bubble.
Columbia thesis - there's claims that some people have seen and read parts of it in the past (some accepted, some proven false), but Obama no longer has a copy of it, neither does the college. Not sure why this is relevant at all, but hey, you've got a right to ask about it. Got anything that shows he spent money to "hide" this from the public? I'd love to see it.
Harvard Law Review articles (Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned) - From www.politico.com... it states "Law students elected to the prestigious Harvard Law Review spend two years working there. In their first year, most write the brief, anonymous "case comments" like Obama's". Based on that, you can see that much of the work would not be attributed to individuals. There is also a link on that page (www.politico.com...) that discusses part of his time with the Harvard Law Review. You can also take a look at this article, which I got a bit of a chuckle out of - www.americanthinker.com... He apparently didnt write the best at times
Illinois State Senate records, Illinois State Senate schedule - What exactly is it that you are looking for? His voting record is commented on by various publications (one being the NY Times, www.nytimes.com...). You can also get information about every bill he sponsored or co-sponsored and transcripts of his words on the Senate floor at www.ilga.gov...
Law practice client list - are you serious about this? He sure doesnt have to spend money to hide this, nor does he have any sort of responsibility to provide this to anyone. I would think that you're aware that this is not information that is available to the public unless specifically made so.
University of Chicago scholarly articles - I dont know enough about these to comment one way or ther other. I'm not sure if they are all normally available, so it wouldn't be right for me to speculate too much.
Anything else?edit on 8-6-2012 by flyswatter because: Corrected confusing statement
Originally posted by spoor
Originally posted by hawkiye
Of course he spent money to keep those hidden people filed lawsuits to expose them and prove it once and for all he spent millions on legal fees ( and who knows how much in bribes) to make sure they were not had by court order.
As expected, you ignore the fact that your similiar records are also sealed - so just what are you hiding, and why did you spend millions to cover your records up?
Of course you will not answer this, as you know Obama did not hide his records, or spend million covering them up.
It is just another birther made up story, like all their other silly claims about Obama!edit on 8-6-2012 by spoor because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by hawkiye
He ignores completely that I said people filed lawsuits to try and obtain those records and Obama spent millions to defeat those lawsuits
Originally posted by LeoStarchild
Umm we know his records are hidden.... because ... well.. they cant be found..
Which is indicative or 'hiding' your documents.
Originally posted by hawkiye
Originally posted by spoor
Originally posted by hawkiye
Of course he spent money to keep those hidden people filed lawsuits to expose them and prove it once and for all he spent millions on legal fees ( and who knows how much in bribes) to make sure they were not had by court order.
As expected, you ignore the fact that your similiar records are also sealed - so just what are you hiding, and why did you spend millions to cover your records up?
Of course you will not answer this, as you know Obama did not hide his records, or spend million covering them up.
It is just another birther made up story, like all their other silly claims about Obama!edit on 8-6-2012 by spoor because: (no reason given)
Here is a great example of the little game Obamiots play over and over. He ignores completely that I said people filed lawsuits to try and obtain those records and Obama spent millions to defeat those lawsuits which is completely different then just trying to obtain the records directly from the institutions that house them . Then he throws up a straw man argument about all records being sealed which is completely unrelated to what I said and what anyone said and then claims victory rinse and repeat ad nausea...
I could file all kinds of lawsuits to try and get your records and get nowhere, because I have no right to see your records, just like the fools filing lawsuits to see Obama's records. There's no strawman argument here. It all deals with the same BS claims that have been proven wrong time and time again.
I'd love to hear how you might think a lawsuit to see that information would help them get to it, though.
Originally posted by hawkiye
So no one has need of my records.
evidence came to light to suggest he may not be eligible to be president.
Real lawyers filed real lawsuits to obtain his records to make sure he was eligible
it is beyond all reason and logic why anyone would not want to see the proof that he is eligible
even after he and his staff have admitted it,
Originally posted by Lillli
All he had to do to get on the ballot was to sign to say he was eligible.
Originally posted by spoor
Exactly the same as every previous POTUS.... so why didnt you whine and go on about them? What is different about Obama?
Originally posted by SourGrapes
Originally posted by spoor
Exactly the same as every previous POTUS.... so why didnt you whine and go on about them? What is different about Obama?
What's different? Obama told EVERYONE that is father is Kenyan.
So, basically automatically he comes from immediate family (parents) with more than one allegiance.
That is dangerous!
Originally posted by spoor
Not really, remember he is not the first POTUS with a foreign born parent...edit on 8-6-2012 by spoor because: (no reason given)