reply to post by Lord Jules
It depends on the true nature of the human being in creation, and of God as spirit.
I think that Jesus, due to fateful circumstances and a controversial birth and likely a rather painful childhood, was, as a young man and self
realized master (through extensive training and reflection) "re-born" of the spirit such that he came to enjoy, in his true "I am" state of being,
an intimate, familial relationship with God (Abba) as the Absolute and the spirit of truth and life. He then entered what might be called a "fated
wedge" to realize a divine calling and purpose to perform a Great Work or Magnum Opus on God's behalf (who's will is the will to love), so that
mankind, in receiving this same spirit (receiving Christ himself), might also enjoy the true life as intended through reconciliation and atonement (at
one ment), a relationship that would otherwise be impossible to establish by subjective experience or by self-striving (by faulty human resources)
alone, since God as the Absolute is absolutely holy, perfect, and just, with absolute integrity and wholeness or completeness, and therefore, without
any compromise (with human sin and evil) whatsoever.
What we see and recognize in Christ's Great \Work is a high standard of Justice and Mercy without compromise, who's MO is forgiveness from the apex
of a universal principal of God's lovingkindness, all the way down, drawing men and women from a lowly, fallen or corrupted nature, up, and uplifting
them to be with him where he is in spirit and in truth.
Without Christ, God is inaccessible as the immaterial absolute, so what we really have with Christianity is the notion of God, as the absolute will to
love, entering into history on our behalf, so that we would not be orphaned in our separation from God, or God "processed" for our enjoyment and
satisfaction, that we might have life to the full even to overflowing, with our good-willed, good-natured humor restored.
And so, while the fundamentalists who blindly accept the doctrine of Jesus Christ as a divine intervention for the purpose of reconciliation and
atonement are, in the final analysis, correct, they do not understand the sheer genius of it, and yet because it is delivered unconditionally, and as
a type of simplicity on the far side of complexitry, I suppose they don't have to, but I myself cannot take something on faith alone, it needs to
make sense and it does.
I would call myself an evolutionary Christian mystic, meaning that we are like a work in progress whereby the end result is a hightened spiritual (and
psychological) experience of what it means to be alive and a child of God or a sacred being made in the image of God (imbued with self conscious
But to begin to fathom it and come to grips with it, in a way that makes sense and which resonates - a person must approach the whole thing with
open-mindededness and willingness and without any sort of apriori contemptuous bias prior to investigation. To understand it (Christianity) in the
knowledge of personal experience, which is the only kind of real knowledge there is, one must also possess a certain degree of courage and the
capacity to recognize the genius of it, which presents a universal principal of truth and justice that is so alien to our stupid human conceptions,
that indeed, like C.S. Lewis has pointed out, it has the fingerprints of a divine intelligence all over it.
But to be a Christian believer or knower (gnosis) one need not accept the Creationist account as literal, nor the various aspects of God presented in
the OT as entirely representative of God's true nature as a God of love and sympathetic, harmonious compassion towards all people, no matter their
state or stature.
It represents a universal principal of the love of God as a process of evolutionary transformation for the spirit of man reunited with God, whereby
the lowly and fallen or corrupted, is uplifted, and where the first are made last and the last, first.
It's absolute brilliance and sheer genuis cannot, given an open minded and open-hearted inquiry, be ignored or underestimated. And if it's the least
bit significant, which it is, then by extension it is of the utmost significance and importance. It means either nothing, or everything. It's an all
or nothing proposition, which is the only possible way it could be given. That it goes to the heart and cuts to the core of our self-willed nature, it
can also be offensive to the pride of man and provoke rebellion, which, to me, is a sign as to it's power, to overcome all evil.
What others hate about it (that it cuts to the core) and think of as offensive, is imho, it's greatest defence, whereb y it may be said that the best
defence, is a good offence!
Christian "theory" basically states that man's true nature, destiny and purpose, is an exalted state.