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Originally posted by The Old American
Religions don't teach that sex is bad. They teach that sexual immorality is bad. Engaging in sex for pleasure only, instead of for procreation, is a sin (according to religion), because sex was created for one reason: to propagate the species.
/TOA
Originally posted by Lord Jules
I think 1984 explains it the best, get rid of the sex drive and people become angry war mongering freaks. It s all about control, emotional control and population control. The ruling class has always sought after population control.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Warriors like sex.edit on 113030p://bWednesday2012 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ErgoTheConfusion
reply to post by OpinionatedB
BTW in none of my discussions with you am I trying to support the OP's assertions that religions say sex is bad. Only that the different cultural taboos aren't as fixed as the religions try to convince their followers they are.
Perhaps YOU need the taboo to stay in line and be responsible but I've got no unwanted children (none in fact), disease, or shattered homes on my resume and a small string of lovely people who I'm still friends with or even close with where we brighten each other's lives and even help each other progress spiritually.
Namaste.edit on 2012/6/6 by ErgoTheConfusion because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DISRAELI
Nothing in the Bible says "sex is bad".
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by albertabound
I don't think we can attach an agenda to religion as a whole. While certainly it does seem than many major religions are in the business of controlling people's behavior fear is only one mechanism that helps this control function.
It's also not so much that sex is bad as it is the context of the sex is important within many religions. For instance the church I was raised in taught abstinence only, sex before marriage was wrong but once you got married sex, as long as it was with your spouse, was okay. There are even fringe fundamentalist groups who think that once your married sex and procreation are basically required of you by God.
Now personally I think it's a ridiculous notion that a God who has no gender and no sexuality would have to set rules for what human beings can and can't do in the bedroom. Maybe it would make sense if we were talking about Zeus, but then he's the kinda god who had no problem with getting a little action on the side
Originally posted by albertabound
This really confuses me. Sex is not a "desire", it is a necessary biological function. There is a theory that celibacy, or at the very least, forced sexual limitation, causes Neurosis (can't find the link, will post later). This would definitely explain why there is so much Pedophilia in the Catholic Church. It would explain what would drive someone to commit a suicide bombing, light themselves on fire, etc. And the evidence isn't just in religious radicals - people who commit cruel, extreme crimes are, 9 times out of 10, sexually frustrated.
I know a few girls who some would refer to as "sluts", and they are the most open minded, kind people I know. Come on, people, anybody who has had sex (with someone you care about (does NOT have to be a relationship, it can be a friend, too) is one of the best, if not the best feelings on Earth). And the people who judge them are those who limit themselves sexually for the sake of not going to "hell" and other wise tales; they are the most judgmental people I have ever known, and there are a lot of them. And, I'm sorry, but most of them are religious, either full time or causally. I thought one of the fundamental aspects of Religion was not to judge others? Hmm.
Personally I think the agenda behind Religion is simple: scare people into not enjoying their lives. Keep them afraid of punishment from some above force, that may or may not exist, so they are always obedient and desirable, until we don't need them anymore.
What are your thoughts?
Incorrect, there are several references in The Bible to homosexuality being "immoral", and several references to sex not being used for pleasure alone.
Originally posted by OpinionatedB
while I am very happy for you that you are one of the exceedingly few in this world, I know the taboo, and used my rational mind to learn why that taboo might be in place, and decided I prefer to avoid any such possible complications. I do not need the taboo to be responsible, but the taboo helped me to reason out why it might be in place, and gave me the opportunity to decide in rational manner whether or not any of the known possibles were risks I was willing to take, and gave the opportunity to consider currently unknown risks as well.
I am good with living sex free (currently) and after marriage I will happily indulge in all the joys of sex, but that will be the right person, the right time and the right institution for myself.
That is all I was trying to convey. And I do not begrudge you your choices either. We all make choices, if we are all take sole responsibility in them this is all we can truly expect of one another.
It was a pleasure speaking to you.
Engaging in sex for pleasure only, instead of for procreation, is a sin (according to religion), because sex was created for one reason: to propagate the species.
Originally posted by KnawLick
reply to post by albertabound
What religion says sex is bad? I assume this is a bash Christianity thread though.
Originally posted by The Old American
Religions don't teach that sex is bad. They teach that sexual immorality is bad. Engaging in sex for pleasure only, instead of for procreation, is a sin (according to religion), because sex was created for one reason: to propagate the species.
/TOA