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Originally posted by milkyway12
And women complain about American men. How about all these feminist go to Pakistan and actually do something for their "sisters".
Its easy to complain and complain , gimme gimme gimme , and then ... you have Islam. That simply kills you. So ... does America need more help .. or Islamic nations? .
Originally posted by draco49
The fact is, most people from the Western world have and always will be disgusted by the ways of the people of the Middle-East. We're just too far apart, both ideologically and theologically. We need to focus on the issues of the US homeland, and quit trying to save everyone from themselves. The US was not founded on the principals of global interventionism and hegemony. In fact, you you take a few minutes to read what the Founding Fathers actually say about foreign policy and the perils of militaristic interventionism, you'll find that they specifically warn against it and espouse the philosophy, "trade with all, alliance with none".
Originally posted by redneck13
Correct, having equal rights for all people is expecting way too much of Islam
On April 10, President APJ Abdul Kalam was presenting the Indian Music Academy awards to maestros like Ali Akbar Khan, Dr Balamurali Krishna, Girija Devi, Asha Bhonsle and Illyaraja (music director) at a function at New Delhi. While speaking to the audience, Honourable President said, “The nation is grateful to various exponents of music in India for the great contribution you are making in preserving music and promoting unity of minds among the billions of people of this nation of multi-religion, multi-culture and multi-language”. He also said, “Indeed music is a great integrator of minds of people of Indian origin settled in various parts of the planet”. While our President was speaking all these words to praise and encourage music, he perhaps overlooked the fact that the religious creed he follows, forbids music.
Nearly 10 days later, the cleric Maulana Abdul Ajiz of famous Lal Masjid in Peshawar, Pakistan ,issued a Fatwa to enforce Sharia (Islamic Law) immediately in Pakistan and declared any kind musical pursuit, including singing and dancing, un-Islamic. He asked Pakistani singers and dancers to go to India and perform their arts there. His fatwa also promulgated that doing business in any thing related to music is un-Islamic and asked people who are running shops of audio and video CDs and tapes, to close their shops. As a consequence of these religious Fatwas, a group of fanatics blew off 3 shops in Swabi, a small town at about 100 km north-west of Peshawar.
A question naturally arises – Why Islam forbids music? In fact, Islam forbids, not only music but any kind of artistic pursuit like singing, playing musical instruments, dancing, drawing pictures, sculpting figures and so on, including even photography. To get into the root of this Islamic attitude towards music, one has to delve into the matter a bit. At the onset, it should be made clear that the creed of Islam has nothing to do with spiritualism and its ultimate goal is to turn the entire world into an Islamic empire, either by converting or by eliminating the entire population of non-Muslim kafirs and jihad is the means to achieve that goal. Hence jihad, the military component of Islam, is the greatest virtue of the creed. It is therefore compulsory participate in jihad to win a victory over the world of non-Muslims.
Islamic scholars agree that, jihad is the best form of worship in Islam
Originally posted by redneck13
Music is forbidden
Anyone that doesn’t listen is blown up
Originally posted by redneck13
Yes we should turn our backs on humanity let our children worry about the consequences, and worry only about our financial condition
Originally posted by charles1952
Does the United Nations have an obligation to help? They have International Charters of Human Rights, aid to the Palestinian refugees, Global Climate Change initiatives, etc., ad nauseum. If they have the obligation to help why don't they expel certain countries from membership? Why don't they ask for a military force from member countries? If they don't have that obligation, what are they doing with the billions we've given them, and why should we be members?
If the United States has no obligation to help, why did we send aid to Haiti, assistance fighting AIDS in Africa, food shipments pretty much everywhere? If a dictator decides to kill his people through starvation (talk to Ukranians), do we ship food, do nothing, or send a team to the dictator's house?
America helps, that's who we are.
I would hate to think that Americans would make no effort because we're afraid of certain groups of people, but maybe in the last couple of years or so, we have become afraid.
Pakistani campaigners say they have made contact with two out of five women previously feared murdered for singing in a wedding video.
Dr Farzana Bari met the two women after travelling with officials to a remote village in north-west Pakistan.
The team did not meet the other three women, but said local elders had given assurances that they were also alive.
Earlier reports said a tribal court sentenced all five to death after the footage aired on Pakistani TV.
The women had also reportedly been condemned for watching men dancing at the celebration. The men in the video appeared in court on Wednesday charged with creating the conditions for tribal violence.
The decree was allegedly issued by tribal elders for the women to be killed because it was thought their actions brought dishonour to their community, which disapproves of men and women dancing together.
After several hours climbing, human rights activists - travelling with local officials - say the two women appeared relaxed, and did not show any signs of physical ill-treatment.
"If these two are alive, I believe the others are as well," campaigner Farzana Bari told the BBC's Orla Guerin in Islamabad.
Dr Bari said that the other three women were at a more remote location that could not be reached easily.
She said that she believed there had been no death sentence from a tribal council, but there was a real risk to the women because the wedding video had been widely seen.
"There's a strong tradition in this area of taking the law into your own hands," she said. "The authorities should keep on monitoring the women. There is still a risk, we cannot relax."
Pakistan's Supreme Court ordered officials to go to the area on Wednesday to establish if the women were alive or dead...
...Pakistan's most senior judge Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry said he was ready to send in the army unless he had a clear report on all the women...