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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 03:19 AM
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How often have we seen threads saying this very same thing?
All of the Abrahamic religions can be interpreted so the "believer" thinks that to further the cause they should kill or subjugate "non-believers".
Thankfully those who do think like this are in the vast minority.
I have plenty of friends who are devout Muslims and you know what? They are just like you and me (well probably not like the OP) they are friendly, good to be with and tolerant of others' beliefs.

Is it a coincidence that the lands the west are forcibly trying to obtain or take control of are peopled by Muslims? So certain factions from the west are trying to demonise them so we don't feel so bad when we slaughter them.

When we feel strong enough to have a go at the Chinese, keep your eyes open for Taoist and Buddhist terrorists everywhere.




posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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Wow you picked out one ignorant idiot out of 1.5 Billion.

That is a classic example of good math and extrapolation techniques.

Hey buddy, Ive got a math problem for you. What is that one person in your picture out of 1.5 billion

Whats the percentage. Lets hear it.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 

How many wars currently being fought today are using extremist Christian idealogy,

Every single war that the USA is inovlved in has christian ideolgy because most of the US military is christians.

This thread makes it pretty obvious that most of us ARE deceived concerning wars. That is the plan...


"All war is based on deception." ~ Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Religion is used as a façade:


"History shows us without a shadow of a doubt, that religion was invariably used as a façade to hide the true purpose of all wars of aggression: That is, the consolidation of power through fear and the acquisition of wealth in all its manifestations." LINK

The Illuminati are behind ALL world events, including WARS:


One group and one group alone is responsible for virtually all wars and bloodshed on the face of this planet. This evil cabal is few in numbers but, like a deadly octopus, its tentacles reach out to grip and strangle untold multitudes of innocent victims. The initiates of every secret society and internationalist organization, from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Jesuits to the Bilderbergers and the Order of Skull & Bones, obey the dictates of this sinister group and tremble when standing before its leaders.

The cabalist group I refer to is the Synagogue of Satan, an ANCIENT, yet modern, elite so politically powerful and so fabulously wealthy that even past history has been twisted, reshaped, and revised to meet its preferred version of humanity's gloomy, totalitarian future.

Religious in nature, the Synagogue of Satan is, at its essence, a grotesque, satanic cult. It's high council is composed of High Priests of Lucifer; these are men who literally worship death while practicing sexual magick and occult rituals of the blackest nature. LINK


"Creating conflict makes fiendish sense. If they were to declare their true intention, they would meet opposition from all sides. Instead they create and hide behind competing forces and manipulate the outcome ensuring that "true believers" (the uncorrupted) die in the process. Everyone is so busy fighting, they can't see the real foe and the real agenda. They faked the Cold War, World War One and World War Two. They are behind 9-11 and the War on Terror" LINK


Nobody has died because of religion. When people "kill in the name of religion," they're actually going against what religion teaches. A man could claim to be killing in the name of Mickey Mouse -- but that is a bad reflection on the man, not on Mickey Mouse. Atheist Communist regimes, meanwhile, have killed over 100 million of their own people (and that's a conservative number) in just the last 100 years.

Link


“Most wars are engineered by the Illuminati to weaken civilization and create a global police state" ~ Henry Makow Ph.D.


“All war in history has been hatched by governments, independent of the people’s interests, to whom war is always pernicious even when successful” ~ Leo Tolstoy


"War is the major way for the EVIL, sinister, insane Illuminati to control humanity."
Michael Shore


"Wars are all based on lies" ~ Charles Young.


"secular ideologies were responsible for the murder of 100 million innocent people during the last century"

Source



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 04:57 AM
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The is a very american point of view. How do you know those fighting are Islamic? It is written in the islamic religion no man may harm another, but he may defend himself as long as he does not exceed the aggression of his attacker. I know you will bring up islamic terrorists, but I will bring up the Nazis and KKK and the crusades, every religion has it's whack jobs. You may bring up all the roadside bombings in afghanistan or the civilian resistance in any us occupied country. If you invade a country with your military, this is an act of hostility. SO by islamic religion you can defend yourself and your country. Islam is a religion of peace Leave them alone and there won't be a problem.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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Sir , Humans are Evil to a large degree simply out of the greed of our own hearts and some religions. War is War , it happens. You have to defend your beliefs or die like the rest.

Always be prepared for war. I am still astonished at the people who cant concieve the idea of war. We have been killing each other since ( when cain dropped that der rock on Abel >.>) or since the world began.

War is part of the corrupted Human Nature. Its horrible. That's why you better hope God is real or the human race will eventually all die.
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:14 AM
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reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 


S & F

Now ATS is not suppose to be a hate filled blog but, (there is that word) I have been studying the Quran and it is anything but a peaceful religion.

If you know me or my blogs I am against any type of murder - ANY - I am against war, hate, violence or the harming of another person.

BUT

Muslims are bound, according to their religion to kill any non believer: I will give quotes and a link however, anyone doubting my words go and pick up a Quran and read it.

It's a hateful book, one I think actually written by a man deluded and possessed by demonic or hateful entities.

Women and children (girls as young as ten) hung from cranes and if a virgin, raped the night before because you cannot hang a virgin. So to get around it they "marry" the virgin to a guard then hang her


Buried up to their chest and stoned to death.

These folks are barbaric and they come over here and pretend to be civil - but (there is that word again) Mosque going up all over.

I do not want my grand daughter wearing jeans cut short enough to show her cute little bum cheeks, but I do not want her in a black veil such as I saw at Walmart the other day walking like a slave behind her arrogant husband either.


They, the Muslim World is using our own "freedom of religion" clause against us.......and blacks that are Muslim, boy, you think the South held you as slaves, read up on how the Muslims really feel about blacks.....

This is not a hate blog, this is a anti hate blog and if we allow the Muslim World to silently invade our society they will eat us out from the inside out.

And who in the hell dreams of copulating with 72 virgins endlessly for murder/suicide????? That's gross. Child sex, that's wrong............they hide beneath veils because they hide a vileness. And the more I study the Quran the more scared I become.......beware, they are the serpent.

Quotes with source - you decide:



2.39. But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.

2.161. Those who reject Faith, and die rejecting,- on them is Allah.s curse, and the curse of angels, and of all mankind;

2.190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

2.191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

3.141. Allah's object also is to purge those that are true in Faith and to deprive of blessing Those that resist Faith.

3.151 Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!

3.157. And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass.

4.34. Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

4.56. Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.

5.33. The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

5.38. As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.

5.51. O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Source: (But is also in the Quran I own) www.godlessgeeks.com...


I have but one quote that I believe in below:


King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. John 13:34 The Holy Christian Bible




I am normally not into hate. I don't do hateful threads. But just pick up, yes buy or borrow a Quran and read it.

These folks are like Klingons, real blood thirsty cold hearted, if you don't believe exactly as I do you die people.

We really want them in our society???

This world just gets scarier day by day.....................While I don't approve of all our American ways, freedom of religion is what this country was founded upon and these folks, if given their way, will take that away from us.

I am against hate, hanging, stoning, rape, murder.

I am for peace, love and nurturing each other.

But how in sam heck can you co-exist with a group of hateful, do as I command or die group of people?????

That is my question.

Could someone not flame me but answer me how we are going to co-exist with these type of folks AFTER you have read the Quran.

It's one heck of a hateful book.

Scared me worse than any Stephen King novel.

We need more love and tolerance (and Christians who are against homosexuals are not tolerant or real Christians in my book).

Again we need more love and tolerance not hate and judging each other.

The only time someone should be stopped or put away with the key thrown away is when they do commit murder, rape or abuse of another person.

BTW: Muslims are for enslaving non believers, sex with children and a lot of other really nasty stuff.

Simply read the Quran from cover to cover. It is a nasty, hateful, perverted book.
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:22 AM
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Interpretation of language and its meaning is a wonderful thing....

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6
2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28
6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14
10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
11. God is the author of evil
Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
God is not the author of evil
1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
12. God gives freely to those who ask
James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving
them
John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
13. God is to be found by those who seek him
Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17
God is not to be found by those who seek him
Prov 1:28
14. God is warlike
Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15
God is peaceful
Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33
15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious
Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
16. God's anger is fierce and endures long
Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute
Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5
17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,
sacrifices ,and holy days
Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9
God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,
sacrifices, and holy days.
Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
18. God accepts human sacrifices
2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39
God forbids human sacrifice
Deut 12:30,31
19. God tempts men
Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13
God tempts no man
James 1:13
20. God cannot lie
Heb 6:18
God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t deceive
2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9
21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
Gen 8:21
22. God's attributes are revealed in his works.
Rom 1:20
God's attributes cannot be discovered
Job 11:7/ Is 40:28
23. There is but one God
Deut 6:4
There is a plurality of gods
Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by EvanB

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital
reply to post by EvanB
 


Uhh no. While the Stolen Generation was a terrible thing and over 200 thousand Aboriginal children were taken from their families, but the "white" stolen generation I'm speaking of was pretty much the exact same practice except used against white families who were believed to be unable to provide for the children where over half a million were taken by the government. Yet this is almost completely unknown by most if not all people and its the (Aboriginal) stolen generation that gets all the attention.
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Interesting..

I was not having a crack at you to make it clear but was genuinely interested


Thanks for the information.. I will look into it.. I have a genuine love for all things Aussie with my family connections and having lived there on and off a few times so take great interest in this type of thing.. So thanks again..


Then there was also hundreds of thousands of Brittish kids shipped between Australia and Canada from 1920's to 1967 that never made it back to there familys.
Child trafficking was clearly a Brittish elite agenda ran throughout the commonwealth for hundreds of years, NOT an australian initiative.
bbs.chinadaily.com.cn...
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by Ilyich
I know you will bring up islamic terrorists, but I will bring up the Nazis and KKK and the crusades, every religion has it's whack jobs.


But why does Islam have so many whack jobs compared to all other religions?

Does Islam perhaps have so many whack jobs because its prophet, Muhammad, told his followers that particpating in Jihad was second only to believeing in Allah and himself?


Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad).

The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25


Does Islam perhaps have so many whack jobs because Muhammad himself stated that he was ordered to fight until the people acknowledge that there is no god but Allah?


Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle"

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24


Does Islam perhaps has so many whack jobs because its god, Allah, told his followers that to fight those who do not believe in Allah until they they are humbled?


Koran 9:29

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."

Koran Book 9 Verse 29


Islam has never gone through any sort of enlightenment or reformation. Its doctrines are still stuck in the 7th century. Islam requires that Muslims take the Koran literally.

The Koran demands 91 times that Muslims imitate Mohammed in every way. Muhammad led the perfect life apparently.

Statistical Islam


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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by DragonFire1024
What a disgrace this thread is. Religion was created to combat hate, not to spread it. Since the Crusades, the Christian church has hijacked the meaning of religion. I am sorry, but you are not going to convince me that Jesus Christ created Christianity by hating homosexuals. Islam wasn't created to blow stuff up. Anyone who takes their religion out of context in order to hate is a hypocrite. It's ok for the religious followers to break their own rules so it suits their needs and their religion, and they don't care who they hurt in the process. But if anyone else, who doesn't follow any religion, these organizations think its ok to bash them, hate on them, CONDONE violence and to force their beliefs on everyone else. I don't believe that's what religion stands for and never has.

With that said, this thread really sounds like it was created to do one thing: Bash Islam...grow up people seriously.

I completely disagree, religion has and always will be a weapon of mass destruction



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by Pardon?
reply to post by ofhumandescent
 


Interpretation of language and its meaning is a wonderful thing....

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6
2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28
6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14
10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
11. God is the author of evil
Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
God is not the author of evil
1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
12. God gives freely to those who ask
James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving
them
John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
13. God is to be found by those who seek him
Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17
God is not to be found by those who seek him
Prov 1:28
14. God is warlike
Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15
God is peaceful
Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33
15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious
Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
16. God's anger is fierce and endures long
Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute
Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5
17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,
sacrifices ,and holy days
Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9
God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,
sacrifices, and holy days.
Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
18. God accepts human sacrifices
2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39
God forbids human sacrifice
Deut 12:30,31
19. God tempts men
Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13
God tempts no man
James 1:13
20. God cannot lie
Heb 6:18
God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t deceive
2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9
21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
Gen 8:21
22. God's attributes are revealed in his works.
Rom 1:20
God's attributes cannot be discovered
Job 11:7/ Is 40:28
23. There is but one God
Deut 6:4
There is a plurality of gods
Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7


God is schizophrenic and Bi-polar



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:39 AM
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Your quotes are all from the old Testement..........................Jesus came to give a new commandment, that of love.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:41 AM
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All Religions preach peace, but never act accordingly, why single out Islam, many of the conflicts mentioned were not the fault of Islam but the fault of the people who fired the first shots. People often hide behind warped ideology to get followers to do their bidding, that isn't exclusive to Islam, I'm not defending any extremist view, in my opinion I believe extremism to be a form of insanity, just pointing out that Islam is not the only religion that does not practice what it preaches. It's about time humanity realised that God does not exist and Religion is a hollow and empty pastime.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by repeatoffender

Originally posted by DragonFire1024
What a disgrace this thread is. Religion was created to combat hate, not to spread it. Since the Crusades, the Christian church has hijacked the meaning of religion. I am sorry, but you are not going to convince me that Jesus Christ created Christianity by hating homosexuals. Islam wasn't created to blow stuff up. Anyone who takes their religion out of context in order to hate is a hypocrite. It's ok for the religious followers to break their own rules so it suits their needs and their religion, and they don't care who they hurt in the process. But if anyone else, who doesn't follow any religion, these organizations think its ok to bash them, hate on them, CONDONE violence and to force their beliefs on everyone else. I don't believe that's what religion stands for and never has.

With that said, this thread really sounds like it was created to do one thing: Bash Islam...grow up people seriously.

I completely disagree, religion has and always will be a weapon of mass destruction


I completely disagree, religion has and always will be USED AS AN EXCUSE AS a weapon of mass destruction.

Fixed it for you.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:44 AM
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Why can't everybody just get along?

Live and let live.

Treat others EXACTLY as you, yourself would wish to be treated and that includes animals.

Maybe I was born on the wrong planet.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:45 AM
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the majority of the conflicts currently being fought are being waged by Islamists.


Irrelevant.

Seeing as most of those conflicts you pointed out are centered around RESOURCES.

Through your short sightedness, you have not researched any of those conflicts, rather you looked to see where brown people are fighting each other and you made them all out as Islamists and asserted that without their religion no wars would be fought over resources.

That has to be ignorance you're spreading.

Because if we go by your book, then if you are white, you are a Christian pedophile sex tourist. See how ridiculous it is what you did?

The quarrel with Islam is how Islam treats it's own people. You can't just point a finger at brown people and scream: "Islam, Islam!"

That is shortsighted and all kinds of ignorant.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by DragonFire1024
What a disgrace this thread is. Religion was created to combat hate, not to spread it. Since the Crusades, the Christian church has hijacked the meaning of religion. I am sorry, but you are not going to convince me that Jesus Christ created Christianity by hating homosexuals. Islam wasn't created to blow stuff up. Anyone who takes their religion out of context in order to hate is a hypocrite.


Organized religion is THE deception


Satan's most effective method of seducing men and women to yield to his control over them is via a religious system. Link


"Every major religion in the world has been manufactured or infiltrated by the Illuminati to enslave and brainwash society. In essence, religion was the first form of mind control. The indoctrination of the masses by a "Trojan Horse" false religion has allowed the Illuminati to take control and work in secret for many, many years." Link


"Organized religion is THE deception that keeps us in fear of God and rejecting his grace. Religion keeps you from knowing God and keeps you blind as to what God is really like! Sadly, some confuse religion with Jesus, and walk away from them both, God and religion are separate entities that get intertwined together by man. ALL pagan religions are controlled by Satan! The elite created religion as a tool for control with a hidden agenda that aims to blind and misguide you away from the truth."


"...religion keeps you from knowing God and keeps you blind as to what God is really like! All religious leaders are raised up by Jesus' arch enemy, satan! Link


"Today the religions of the world remain a major tool of the Illuminati agenda. They maintain the climate of unquestioning, unthinking, ignorance, and their pseudo-morality provides a veil of hypocrisy, behind which the most sickening abuse of children can be hidden."

"Some of the most famous church "leaders" and evangelists on the planet are Illuminati operatives who use religion to manipulate and brain-wash their followers while engaging in Satanic rituals that beggar belief."

"But the mass of unthinking followers in any religion are merely the fodder and the screen behind which the real business goes on." Link



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by CrimsonKapital

Originally posted by EvanB
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Hello mate. i have no idea where you are from, but as was previously stated, it wasn't Australians as such who conducted the so called slaughter., it was the English.


Actually it was the Australians.. From 1888-1960 stealing kids from Aboriginal families.. You Know the "Lost Generations"...

THAT was not the English!

THAT was YOU!

Suck up some guilt mate... Pfffft


They are actually called the Stolen Generations, mind you. But yes we did that but may I remind you of the little something else that is oftened ignored, the white stolen generation? Ever heard of that?


Actually with the help of our over lords at the time, we also stole UK kids by the hundreds of thousands among others.And If the parents (usually workers) when they first immigrated, weren't too sussed with the language and something happened to one, then the gov stepped in and relieved them of their kids as well.
My neighbour was one and her family was from Hungary. She was told her Dad was dead also, lovely nuns, she found out about 5 years ago he wasn't and his remains were delivered by Australia Post about a year and a half ago....

My family wash shipped, so we didn't really have a choice either.

This arguing over who did what actually perpetuates all the histories together, what a melting pot right here right now.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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Your quotes are all from the old Testement..........................Jesus came to give a new commandment, that of love.


There are plenty of contradictions/misinterpretations in the New Testament too.
Would you like me to list some for you?

Here's something that a lot of people conveniently forget...
In Islam, Jesus is considered to be the Messiah and is actually mentioned in the Quran more than Mohammed.
The main differences with Islam and Christianity regarding Jesus is that they see him as a messenger of god rather than god itself and that he did not die on the cross but that he did ascend to heaven. They also recognise that he was born of a virgin and was able to perform miracles. They also believe that he will return just before the Day of Judgement to battle with the anti-christ.
Not soooo different really.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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Have any of you replying read the Quran or Mohammad's life??????

This guy was a real pervert.

And yes I agree anybody that calls out for blood in the name of any God is wrong wrong wrong.

Again, why in sam heck can't everyone just play nice together?????






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