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Islam the Religion of Peace? I don't think so...

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posted on Jun, 10 2012 @ 11:00 PM
The Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Last Sermon

This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' (in Mecca).

"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. Allah has Judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be waived...

Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.

O People, listen to me in earnest, worship ALLAH, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O ALLAH, that I have conveyed your message to your people".

Last Sermon
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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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Redneck you keep failing to address this post very conveniently:

Shahadah[ Salat: Prayer
Sawm of Ramadan:
Hajj: Pilgrimage to Mecca Twelvers anyone? I think that completes my home work Mr. Profesional sir

So where in there does it advocate murder and ignorance and beheadings?

You have demonstrated earlier that you do not know very much about even the basics of Islam, yet you keep spreading pictures and stories of idiotic people.

If you do not know the basics of Islam, how do you know that the stories and pictures and videos your are spreading are actually representative of Islam?

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:37 AM
Images of masked terrorists standing behind Western hostages in Iraq and Saudi Arabia have become all too common on Arabic satellite stations such as Al-Jazeera and Al-Manar. Islamist websites such as Muntadiyat al-Mahdi[1] go further, streaming video of their murder.

Beheading in the Name of Islam
Groups such as Abu Mus'ab al-Zarqawi's Al-Tawhid wa al-Jihad (Unity and Jihad) and Abu 'Abd Allah al-Hasan bin Mahmud's Ansar al-Sunna (Defenders of [Prophetic] Tradition)[10] justify the decapitation of prisoners with Qur'anic scripture. Sura (chapter) 47 contains the ayah (verse): "When you encounter the unbelievers on the battlefield, strike off their heads until you have crushed them completely; then bind the prisoners tightly."[11] The Qur'anic Arabic terms are generally straightforward: kafaru means "those who blaspheme/are irreligious," although Darb ar-riqab is less clear. Darb can mean "striking or hitting" while ar-riqab translates to "necks, slaves, persons." With little variation, scholars have translated the verse as, "When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks."[12]
Under no circumstances should the Muslim lose sight of this aim and start taking the enemy soldiers as captives. Captives should be taken after the enemy has been completely crushed.[17]
Another, albeit less-frequently, cited Qur'anic passage also sanctions beheadings of non-Muslims. Sura 8:12 reads: "I will cast dread into the hearts of the unbelievers. Strike off their heads, then, and strike off all of their fingertips." In the original text, the relevant phrase is adrabu fawq al-'anaq, "strike over their necks." This verse is, then, a corollary to Sura 47:3. Yusuf "instill terror"—has now been adopted by Islamist terrorists to justify decapitation of hostages
While some Islamists might justify murder of prisoners on Qur'anic prescription, others reinforce their conclusions by drawing analogies to events during the almost 1,400 years of Islamic history. Here beheading of captives is a recurring theme. Both Islamic regimes and their opposition have utilized beheadings as both military and judicial policy.
The practice of beheading non-Muslim captives extends back to the Prophet himself. Ibn Ishaq (d. 768 C.E.), the earliest biographer of Muhammad, is recorded as saying that the Prophet ordered the execution by decapitation of 700 men of the Jewish Banu Qurayza tribe in Medina for allegedly plotting against him.[21] Islamic leaders from Muhammad's time until today have followed his model. Examples of decapitation, of both the living and the dead, in Islamic history are myriad. Yusuf b. Tashfin (d. 1106) led the Al-Murabit (Almoravid) Empire to conquer from western Sahara to central Spain. After the battle of Zallaqa in 1086, he had 24,000 corpses of the defeated Castilians beheaded "and piled them up to make a sort of minaret for the muezzins who, standing on the piles of headless cadavers, sang the praises of Allah."[22] He then had the detached heads sent to all the major cities of North Africa and Spain as an example of Christian impotence. The Al-Murabits were conquered the following century by the Al-Muwahhids (Almohads), under whose rule Castilian Christian enemies were beheaded after any lost battles.

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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:47 AM
164 Jihad Verses in the Koran

164 Jihad Verses in the Koran
Compiled by Yoel Natan

A. Jihad Verse Selection Criteria
Each of the 164 Jihad verses in this list was selected based on how clearly and directly it spoke about Jihad, at least when considered in its immediate context. Most of the listed passages mention a military expedition, fighting, or distributing war spoils. Verses NOT generally listed are those that speak about aspects of Jihad other than the raiding, fighting and looting, such as:

Muhammad's poor opinion of those who did not go on Jihad, even though they were able-bodied and able financially (for instance, some verses in K 009:081-096),
The heavenly rewards for Jihadists, and
The many generic mentions of "victory" found in the Koran.
Such omitted verses can readily be found in proximity to the Jihad verses listed below.

B. Related Issues

Abrogation is a reoccurring topic whenever verses of the Koran are discussed. As a rule, later verses counseling Holy War, such the Sword Verse (K 009:005), abrogate earlier verses counseling tolerance and peace, such as K 002:256. The Sword Verse is just one of the 164 Jihad verses listed below. It follows that not many, if any, of the Holy War verses in this list are abrogated.
The list gives the verses in the order they occur in the Koran, but this is not the chronological order the verses were written. To gain a deeper understanding of the verses, one can study these verses in chronological order, and also consult articles and commentaries for the historical context. A good place to start is Rev. Richard P. Bailey’s article, "Jihad: The Teaching of Islam From Its Primary Sources—The Quran and Hadith,"

The Koran's 164 Jihad Verses

1 2:178 26 3:156 51 4:103 76 8:57 101 09:029 126 29:69 151 59:05
2 2:179 27 3:157 52 4:104 77 8:58 102 09:036 127 33:15 152 59:06
3 2:190 28 3:158 53 4:141 78 8:59 103 09:038 128 33:18 153 59:07
4 2:191 29 3:165 54 5:033 79 8:60 104 09:039 129 33:20 154 59:08
5 2:193 30 3:166 55 5:035 80 8:65 105 09:041 130 33:23 155 59:14
6 2:194 31 3:167 56 5:082 81 8:66 106 09:044 131 33:25 156 60:09
7 2:216 32 3:169 57 8:001 82 8:67 107 09:052 132 33:26 157 61:04
8 2:217 33 3:172 58 8:005 83 8:68 108 09:073 133 33:27 158 61:11
9 2:218 34 3:173 59 8:007 84 8:69 109 09:081 134 33:50 159 61:13
10 2:244 35 3:195 60 8:009 85 8:70 110 09:083 135 42:39 160 63:04
11 3:121 36 4:071 61 8:010 86 8:71 111 09:086 136 47:04 161 64:14
12 3:122 37 4:072 62 8:012 87 8:72 112 09:088 137 47:20 162 66:09
13 3:123 38 4:074 63 8:015 88 8:73 113 09:092 138 47:35 163 73:20
14 3:124 39 4:075 64 8:016 89 8:74 114 09:111 139 48:15 164 76:08
15 3:125 40 4:076 65 8:017 90 8:75 115 09:120 140 48:16
16 3:126 41 4:077 66 8:039 91 9:05 116 09:122 141 48:17
17 3:140 42 4:084 67 8:040 92 9:12 117 09:123 142 48:18
18 3:141 43 4:089 68 8:041 93 9:13 118 16:110 143 48:19
19 3:142 44 4:090 69 8:042 94 9:14 119 22:039 144 48:20
20 3:143 45 4:091 70 8:043 95 9:16 120 22:058 145 48:21
21 3:146 46 4:094 71 8:044 96 9:19 121 22:078 146 48:22
22 3:152 47 4:095 72 8:045 97 9:20 122 24:053 147 48:23
23 3:153 48 4:100 73 8:046 98 9:24 123 24:055 148 48:24
24 3:154 49 4:101 74 8:047 99 9:25 124 25:052 149 49:15
25 3:155 50 4:102 75 8:048 100 9:26 125 29:006 150 59:02

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:53 AM
feeling the peace yet

Some common laws of “Islamic Sharia” which are regularly practiced in the Islamically ruled (Sharia-based) nations with some minor variations:
1- Jihad defined as “to war against all non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.
2- A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.
3- The head of an Islamic State (Caliph) cannot be charged, let alone be punished for serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape (Hudood cases) - Codified Islamic Law Vol 3 # 914C of and page 188 of Hedaya the Hanafi manual.
4- A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.
5- It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.
6- A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.
7- The Muslim public must remove the Caliph in one case, if he rejects Islam.
8- A Muslim who leaves Islam (apostate) must be killed immediately.
9- A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of : a) an apostasy b) an adulterer c) a highway robber. Making vigilante street justice and honor killing acceptable.
10- A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim.
11- Sharia never abolished slavery and sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave. Slavery still exists amongst Arab Muslims.
12- Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, for sins like killing, adultery, prostitutions; and other Quranic corporal punishments like: amputation of limbs (chopping hands and feet), floggings, beatings and other forms of cruel and unusual punishments even for the sins like: stealing, sexual promiscuity, robbery, burglary etc.
13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia (pay Zizzya: poll tax) if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their own religious scriptures, or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he commits adultery with a Muslim woman or if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.
14- It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. However, Muslims can curse, criticize or say anything derogatory they like to the religions of others.
15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.
16- Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.
17- No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or a bathhouse attendant. Women in such low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.
18- A non-Muslim cannot rule even over a non-Muslims minority.
19- Homosexuality is punishable by death.
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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 12:57 AM
full of peace and love

20- There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and consummated at age 8 or 9.
21- Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.
22- Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying: “I divorce you” and becomes effective even if the husband did not intend it.
23- There is no common property between husband and wife and the husband’s property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.
24- A woman inherits half what a man inherits. Sister gets half of what brother gets.
25- A man has the right to have up to 4 wives and wife has no right to divorce him even if he is polygamous.
26- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.
27- A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and also with women captured in battle (concubines), and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.
28- The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man; that is, two women equal to one man.
29- A woman looses custody if she remarries.
30- A rapist may only be required to pay the bride-money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.
31- A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body which is considered “Awrah,” a sexual organ. Some schools of Sharia allow the face and some don’t.
32- A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife caught in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women since he “could be married to the woman he was caught with.”
33-It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory and is known as Taqiyya (Islamic Deception). That means that for the sake of abiding with Islam’s commandments, such as jihad, a Muslim is obliged to lie and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying
34. The perpetrators of genocide, mass rape and plunder will not be punished if they repent - Codified Islamic Law Vol 1 # 13.
35. To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses. Women’s testimony is not accepted - Pakistan’s Hudood ordnance 7 of 1979 amended by 8B of 1980. Thousands of raped women and girls in many countries have been charged with Zena (physical relations outside marriage) and punished by Sharia courts for want of witnesses.
36. All modern music including sexually explicit music of any kind is strictly prohibited and punishable by Islamic Sharia code of justice. Only Islamic songs are allowed
The above are the most important parts of Islamic Sharia law which were devoutly practiced by the early Islamic rulers (Holy Prophet and his four rightly guided Caliphs) and also by the Caliphs of Ummyad and Abbasid Dynasties ruled from Baghdad (Today’s Iraq) and later by Ottoman Empire with very little variations

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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:01 AM
Islam is False
Jesus is God!

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:17 AM
up to 30 different meanings for each word
The standard histories of Muhammad and the early development of Islam are based on Islamic literature that dates to the ninth and tenth centuries--some two centuries or more after the death of Muhammad in 632. Islamic literary sources do not exist for the seventh and eighth centuries, when, according to tradition, Muhammad and his immediate followers lived. All that is preserved from this time period are a few commemorative building inscriptions and assorted coins

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:20 AM
No one gave Uthman the authority to create the new Quran which is used today by billions of Muslims? No one, Uthman took it upon himself to create the Quran and destroy other Qurans. Thus today's Quran was not done by the consent of Muhammad, but against his consent and that of Allahs.

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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i see your tactic here , your desperation, searching for propaganda , you have no foundation , do you even know what your point is ? , and when one does present you with a point , you simply ignore it and blast away , for being a man of Jesus , your hatred sure does show on you well , your filled with anger , and you have not the humble heart to discuss your concerns with an open mind and heart , your acting just like your avatar
, how can we reason with a man who goal it is , to force people to his reality ? such actions your claim my prophet did ? look at your self and ask your very own questions


posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 01:47 AM
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we will all pray for you my son

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 02:20 AM

Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

we will all pray for you my son

who is we pale face got a turd in your pocket ?

on a lighter note , please pray for me , i can always use a prayer in my stead , also keep in mind , that we are all the creation of god , and as we say in Arabic la illah ila allah ( their is no god but god ) so let me tell you how Islam made sens to me , the foundation is simple , its not about Mohammad pbuh , or jesus pbuh , or the past great prophets pbu them all , its about you and god , a direct relation between your self and him , no one comes between that , nobody ! not any man ! .however god has also put in our path prophets , to guide us , and it is their teaching's or words that we should listen to, you should know that god judges a man by his heart , and since every man that fallows the righteous teachings is trying to make it to heaven , why would they concern them self's with acts that they know will bring them further away from god or heaven ?

your a smart man , and i know that you know , your not the answer to heaven ,and nether am i , so the point i am trying to make here , is that its very simple ... and it has been reviled to me in may ways .. and that is , to be the best that you can be on this earth , treat your brothers fairly , be pious , humble , and the key .... here is the key !! ready ? ....... LOVE your brother as you would love your self ! , LOVE is the key ! that is what Islam has thought me ,

so please do not tell someone who is Muslim and is telling you, dont say that i am wrong , for i know this religion and what it has reviled to me , and no amount of words can ever take me away from the truth and the key !

once more i do indeed love you , and ill continue to say it until my time comes , it will be my last words someday , and i will say o Muhammad thank you ! for showing me the true meaning of being a Muslim , and i will say oh Allah thank you for taking the seal off my heart and showing me that you truly love me ,


posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 08:30 AM
I as many others hoped that there would be recognition of the undeniable facts. Anyone that chooses seek validation, as a prophet needs to meet certain criteria. I regret to inform you but Mohammed does not meet the biblical qualification. People outside of Islam tend to agree with a resounding, no. It is unfortunate that those indoctrinated into Islam cannot seem to grasp Mohammed’s shortcomings in meeting biblical standards when it is painfully obvious to others. I wish you the best of luck in your afterlife and indeed hope that the prayers of many can somehow help guide you to the true path. I did not expect to be chastised when somebody persistently ask for proof of the violence contained in Mohammed’s prophetic messages, as a Christian I should expect that. As one that believes in his spirituality should know that truth of the doctrine can withstand any scrutiny. One can only lay out the facts but it is up to the individual to believe by faith. Practitioners of questionable doctrine might see this as a vindictive attack on their beliefs because of a personable preferenc they cannot understand the intentions of others. Having said that, I realize that this is an internet forum that is discussing the peace of Islam. It makes for a short discussion so people tend to point out the obvious temptations that Mohammed fell victim too. So let us get back to looking for all the peace that is contained in the thing called “Islam” and the obvious fact that Mohammed was a false prophet. We all should pray for anyone following a false prophet.

A Prophet must Speak in the Name of God
The Message Must Conform to the Revelation Which Has Gone Before
A Prophet's Prediction Must Be Verifiable

Did Muhammad speak in the name of "the One Who Is", YAHWEH?
Did Muhammad's revelation conform to the message which had preceded him?
Were any of Muhammad's predictions verifiable within his lifetime?
Does Deuteronomy 18 refer to Muhammad?

As you read these verses and consider what has been said, you too, must come to a conclusion. Based on the evidence before you, you must decide who, indeed, can claim to have been given the office of a prophet
The Seven Bible Tests of a True Prophet

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posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 09:20 AM
False prophet
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sermon on the Mount:
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."

Olivet Discourse:
"At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. . . . For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect – if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time" (Matthew ;24 NIV).

"Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets" (Luke NIV).

"They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named Bar‑Jesus, who was an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus. The proconsul, an intelligent man, sent for Barnabas and Saul because he wanted to hear the word of God. But Elymas the sorcerer (for that is what his name means) opposed them and tried to turn the proconsul from the faith. Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, 'You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord? Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind, and for a time you will be unable to see the light of the sun.' "Immediately mist and darkness came over him, and he groped about, seeking someone to lead him by the hand. When the proconsul saw what had happened, he believed, for he was amazed at the teaching about the Lord" (Acts of the Apostles , NIV).

This particular story likewise best matches the model found in Deuteronomy. The claim here is that Elymas is trying to turn Sergius Paulus from the true faith, just like the false prophet described in the preceding verses. In these verses, we do not see Elymas prophesying as the term is popularly understood, so the model seems to fit this scenario best.

The Second Epistle of Peter makes a comparison between false teachers and false prophets and how the former will bring in false teachings, just like the false prophets of old:
"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them – bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping" (2 Peter NIV).
The First Epistle of John warns those of the Christian faith to test every spirit because of these false prophets:
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus, that spirit is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world" (1 John NIV).
One popular New Testament false prophet is the false prophet mentioned in the Book of Revelation. The Apocalypse's false prophet is the agent of the Beast, and he is ultimately cast with the Antichrist into the lake of "fire and brimstone" (Revelation KJV). There is a historical model which suggests that the writer of Revelation was referring to contemporary figures such as Nero and Domitian and not some far-off end times scenario.[1]

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 10:10 AM

posted on Jun, 11 2012 @ 10:38 AM
Former Palestinian Muslim / terrorist Walid Shoebat explains the Bible, Biblical prophecy, and who the anti-Christ will be and where he will come from, by Middle Eastern thinking.
666 Islam-Walid Shoebat

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