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Originally posted by SubPop79
Damn, I'm so tired of these debates. Science may not be 100% accurate all the time, but REALLY, how can someone believe something written in a book over 2000 years ago? Do they also believe as those 2000 years ago did, that it rains because gates in the sky open and that stars are stuck in the atmosphere? Is the Earth still flat? Clearly these people's thinking and observations were flawed, so how can people still think humans just materialized out of nowhere?
Why, when we speak of religion and creationism, is it always BIBLE based? Ever notice how these debates are ALWAYS Christianity vs Evolution. Why do other religions accept Evolution, or at least denounce creation myths much more easily than Christians?
There has got to be something in the fact that many people simply don't think about things. Hell, maybe creationism is right. I mean, it is so hard to believe we evolved a brain when there are so many people who refuse to use theirs.edit on 6-6-2012 by SubPop79 because: (no reason given)
The Hindu religion is the only one of the world's great faiths dedicated to the idea that the Cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite, number of deaths and rebirths. It is the only religion in which time scales correspond to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long, longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang.[7]
since there does exist historical evidence for a flood, the Biblical account is indeed true. If it is indeed true, the one who saved Noah through the Ark is the true God, and that is very significant in my opinion.
Originally posted by voiceoreason
Bwa ha ha ha ha.
You all don't seriously think that 46 percent of Americans hold creationist beliefs; do you?
Has anyone that believes this gone to any of the major population centers of the USA recently?
I can believe that 46 percent of the rural areas of the US do.
Originally posted by wagnificent
Originally posted by Erectus
It is a fact that 1 in 2 adults never reach the final stage of cognitive development. They are incapable of reaching original conclusions. Instead they believe what their trusted institutions tell them. Such institutions include family, government, and church. This is not a belief, but is, unlike some things, empirically supported (that means there is actually evidence). This is a fine example of what is wrong with this nation. Half the population can't even think for themselves.
Is science not an institution as well? Smithsonian Institute, anyone? Original conclusions have problems in science as well. Worshiping empiricism is just as dogmatic as creationist beliefs. You can identify most dogmatists because they have that holier-than-thou attitude:
"No one's search for truth is right except mine!"
Originally posted by Tbrooks76
A. It just was always here with no begin or end and our universe is in a constant state of changing. No big bang or anything, it's just always been.
B. Or it had a beginning in which something outside this universe put everything in motion. (a.k.a GOD)
That’s really your only two options.
Originally posted by Lionhearte
If there is a God, mankind is in trouble - we need to find out who He is and what He wants, because He's in control.
Originally posted by Lionhearte
If there ISN'T a God, mankind is in trouble - we're specs of dust on a rock, hurtling through space at 68,000 miles an hour, and no one is in control.
Originally posted by Tbrooks76
A. It just was always here with no begin or end and our universe is in a constant state of changing. No big bang or anything, it's just always been.
B. Or it had a beginning in which something outside this universe put everything in motion. (a.k.a GOD)
Originally posted by SyphonX
I feel sorry for anyone that feels they are "more intelligent" than someone because they believe in evolution. You can tell the difference between someone who follows through with the evolutionary theory because they're critical thinkers, and the other people who "say" the believe it because they never dared question their teacher/professor lest they be ridiculed in front of the class, etc. In other words, coerced. Creationism/religion has this problem also, obviously, but I get bent out of shape whenever the militant "evolutionists" call themselves more enlightened/intelligent/tolerant. etc.
The sad part is, whether you believe in evolution or "creationism" as it were, it makes not a bit of difference to how successful or intelligent you are, nor does it say how well you interact with others. If you're just some stupid, militant bastard that stereotypes, and does nothing short of spit in the face of other people whenever they challenge you.... then well, maybe there is way more to the "people are apes" thing than people realize. . . .
Most militant evolutionists tend to be brats, and they are not people you want to be around, in my experience.
Most militant creationists are conservative Christians, or Catholics.. and you generally don't want to be around them either. Basically anyone that makes a "big deal" out of secondary subjects, or their "beliefs" usually at the expense of the people around them. Completely lacking courtesy or the precious humanity they so claim to uphold.
The rest of the folks are what I would like to call, "normal". They realize it's wholly none of their business whether someone believes they evolved from apes or came from the spaghetti monster in the sky. They also realize it's not a yardstick from which to measure someone's worth or character, unless said person is "militant" and incendiary of course. These are the real intelligent people. You know, people that go on with their lives and devote their time to matters of real worth and value.
Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by luciddream
Christianity doesn't except evolution because they forgot to put it in the book, Just like they flip-flopped on the alien's may exist agenda, they'll also probably flip-fop on this as well. Also speaking of religion what of the Sumerian myth that we were constructed by ET's to mine precious minerals, that's actually a creationism story that baffles me, how could basic man come up with such an epic, out of this world story?.... odd to say the least.edit on 6-6-2012 by NoJoker13 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Nightchild
God created Man because "there was no-one to till the earth".
In other words, Man was created as a worker.