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Ron Paul is not and will not ever be considered a failure by people who understand the movement.
Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by freakjive
Ron Paul is not and will not ever be considered a failure by people who understand the movement.
Ron Paul has gotten a new generation excited about politics. In all my years I have never seen such hope that the system can work if honest people get involved. So what do you think these enthusiastic Paul supporters are going to do after the election, return to apathy? No way! They will be running for office and supporting like-minded candidates. They are supporting candidates right now it you follow there networks.
They are the watchmen of the U.S. political system now. NWO is running scared, Bilderberg's talking about blowing up Ron Paul and all his supporters on a plane. There hasn't been a plane invented that is big enough to hold all his supporters. Cheap talk, because they know they can't stop the movement.
Yes, Ron Paul already won. He made us believers in our Constitution and raised the bar for future politicians.
So what do you think these enthusiastic Paul supporters are going to do after the election, return to apathy?
Yes, Ron Paul already won. He made us believers in our Constitution and raised the bar for future politicians.
Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by TinfoilTP
The only 2 ways the dems are going to get a landslide on election day is if they control the voting machine or wake up millions of dead people.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
99% of his following will go sheepling along as soon as the Convention is over and he goes into retirement. There will be no Messiah figure to worship that is running for POTUS, no online polls to skew, no dreaming of getting an autograph at your college campus. Life will go on and the few diehards that try to hold out in the GOP will get overwhelmed by the system, just like Rand Paul became a fully loyal GOP rank and file member.
Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
99% of his following will go sheepling along as soon as the Convention is over and he goes into retirement. There will be no Messiah figure to worship that is running for POTUS, no online polls to skew, no dreaming of getting an autograph at your college campus. Life will go on and the few diehards that try to hold out in the GOP will get overwhelmed by the system, just like Rand Paul became a fully loyal GOP rank and file member.
I expect your childish notions of hero-worship played a large part in getting us to the state we are in today. It will take more than autographs to fix the problems we have created, but if you wish for an iconic autograph then fixate yourself on John Hancock's signature on the Declaration of Independence and what it means. At the risk of being hung for treason against British rule he made his mark boldly in our founders' quest for independence from tyranny.
You really should read the OP as he clearly states this movement, this political revolution, is not about one man but his ideas and the optimism that we can fix our system and regain our liberties the nation's founders sought.
Life will go on after this race and a few diehards will try to cling to our failed authoritarian past, but now an idea has been planted into the hearts and minds of our nation's youth. This idea has inspired this new generation to take an active part in our governmental system with a resolve to correct our past mistakes and ensure it never devolves into this current putrid state ever again. I will continue to gain momentum.
This movement toward freedom and personal responsibility was inspired by one man and we will be ever grateful he convinced us we can restore our nation to its former glory. We will not place him on a pedestal if we do not place him in the Oval Office, nor will we lose interest in this cause or our spirit to fight on until it is won. Paul will be through with active politics once this is over. If he never speaks another word from this day on he still will have won by inspiring this wave of independence and personal responsibility by having set the political agenda and its goals for the decades to come. With or without him this movement will endure.
You really don't think when this man retires that the quest for liberty will end, do you? If so then you must believe the US is a nation of sheep that could never aspire to more. How trite and pessimistic.
edit on 5-6-2012 by Erongaricuaro because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
If you couldn't get more than 12% of the people to vote for you when you had your iconic figurehead leading the way, it is all downhill for you guys now.
Originally posted by schuyler
reply to post by TinfoilTP
In other words, Paul still "wins" if you change the definition of "win" to "lose." It kind of reminds me of the Special Olympics. If you participate at all and even if you come in last place, you still get a medal and a hug. We still value you as a human being and though you may be just a little different, you're still special and we love you. What we really mean and won't say is that, actually, you're retarded.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
If you couldn't get more than 12% of the people to vote for you when you had your iconic figurehead leading the way, it is all downhill for you guys now.
Originally posted by benrl
reply to post by freakjive
Even if Ron Pauls popularity forces the conversation to begin about proper economic reform, by giving him a voice in the party.
He has won.
He has proved the people want real economic reform, not platitudes.
And I don't care if I just wasted my Primary vote by voting for Ron Paul (today was Ca open primary)edit on 5-6-2012 by benrl because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
If you couldn't get more than 12% of the people to vote for you when you had your iconic figurehead leading the way, it is all downhill for you guys now.
Trite pessimism. This "iconic figurehead" is just a man of short physical stature who is long on personal integrity and persistence. He merely sounded the starting bell to initiate this race. What a vision you must have for the nation and the world as a whole. Were you always a defeatist or possibly have an authoritarian agenda? Or just content with the status quo.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
...it is all downhill for you guys now.
Trite pessimism.
His supporters claim they can step into the shoes of elected officials....
What are you all gonna do, have thousands of natiional money bomb callouts for nobody candidates that nobody has ever heard of from the city level up to the State Capitols?
The framework is a joke.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by CORN IS NUTS
reply to post by Shadowalker
I completely agree with you Shadow; Ron Paul's message made me jump into the political arena this year. Thus I ended up being a Delegate in Minnesota (mind you where we won 32 of 40 delegates to go to the National Convention). And at 1st it was all about Ron Paul winning the nomination for me; as I went to county, congressional district, and finally the State conventions. It very clearly dawned on me that this WHOLE thing is not about A MAN. It is about a WAY OF THINKING and it has clearly taken a very strong hold within in our country. So if Ron Paul does not win the nomination I am very confident that this movement will not go away.
We ammended the State GOP platform to include / change to a Liberty way of thinking. Every resolution that supported a thought process of getting back to the Constition passed.
Next up; winning local and state elections. All the way down to the city level; this has already started. It may not happen quickly but we are taking our country back. The "establishment" people with in the party know this. They either have to change to support movement or will wither away like leaves during the Fall.
I am here for the long haul and will not stop; I also know a very large number of people (at least in Minnesota) will do the same. We are running for elected seats all across the state. City Council, House Reps., Financial commitees, Senate seats, etc. etc. The footsteps may not be very loud now.... but they are coming. Do you hear them?
That's all just music to the Democrats ears because you cannot get people to vote your way and have never demonstrated that you can.
All you know how to do is manipulate the system as it stands now to muscle your way into the GOP and cause problems. That is not winning, getting the populace to get out and vote your way is winning. Until people vote for any of you, then you are just outsiders causing problems.
Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Any battle of wits with TinfoilTP, Schuyler or OutkastSearcher is a lost cause because they come unarmed.
The only facts they offer is the useless drivel the MSM offers us all.
They know nothing about "Roberts Rules" or what it is or how it works.
They know nothing about the delegate selection or delegate election process.
They know nothing about the GOP state or national party rules.
They never offer proof to support their claims.Citing MSM is not proof it is opinion, if it is not totally blacked out.
They are amusing though.
The role of the Committee on Contests is to adjudicate challenges to the seating of delegates at the Republican National Convention.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
The role of the Committee on Contests is to adjudicate challenges to the seating of delegates at the Republican National Convention.
It is stacked to the gills with loyal GOP party members with years of service.