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Your infinite understanding managed to be wrong about everything you assumed about me. Strange, that.
I couldn't learn anything from you even if I wanted to. Your type is marred with cliché and bad grammar, your ideas are stale and mediocre at best, and you show little patience or politeness. How enlightened of you.
What does being outwitted by a loser, my "type," the one with the "retarded level of thinking" say about you? Not very much I suppose.
You're childishness and solipsism is laughable.
Farewell enlightened one.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Unfortunately, there will be those that disagree. As far as I'm concerned, those are the ones who aren't yet ready to fulfill their destiny.
Where do I start? Basically, we're stuck in the matrix. Allow me to explain.
Free-will vs. determinism.
Your mind is free. Your body is not. Your mind is one with the universe. Your body separates your mind from this unity. Your mind and your brain are closely related, but not the same. Your brain functions according to your mind, but your brain is literally a prison cell. Your brain is part of your body.
The Earth is under quarantine. Literally. This quarantine, this prison, is only temporary, and is for our benefit. Your mind is the universe and is free. The quarantine, under the management of hyper beings, is for the purpose of protecting the mind from the body. The quarantine is for the purpose of allowing us to come to the realization of absolute freedom, and not exposing us to it all at once (which would probably annihilate us, and probably the mind too).
The mind is the universe and is all one. You are part of my mind and I am part of yours and we share this mind, because it is one. The only purpose you have here is to come to freedom. Think about it. Is their any service you can perform that doesn't serve freedom? The increase of technological efficiency IS the increase in freedom. We are learning how to become absolutely free. In order to do this, you must serve others. You must make them free because they are your mind. In creating freedom for others, you loosen the grip your body has over your mind. Your mind will slowly, but surely, come to absolute freedom.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by LesMisanthrope
The choosing self, the free self, cannot be simply an epiphenomenon of matter, according to many leading quantum physicists. In other words, amalgamations of matter are inadequate to collapse the probability wave, for which a conscious choice is needed.
Originally posted by 0mage
word of advice. if you figure it out and how to free your spirit from it's mental bond to the body/brain. dont tell anyone. leave them in their blind misery. they dont want to know. they dont want to know from you especially. envy has a great deal to do with it. basically each achievement is for yourself and noone else can achieve who doesnt care to know.
so count your blessings and basically.. # these blind douches who think they know everything about existence and aim to shoot you down. # em i say and walk your path ALONE!
Originally posted by NoLoveInFear46and2
I don't think you solved anything here, but cheers for your little idea there...
Mystery of existence? No one knows buddy, certainly not you (unless you've died seen the afterlife and understood life's meaning) but I highly doubt it. Better luck next time!
Originally posted by 0mage
Originally posted by NoLoveInFear46and2
I don't think you solved anything here, but cheers for your little idea there...
Mystery of existence? No one knows buddy, certainly not you (unless you've died seen the afterlife and understood life's meaning) but I highly doubt it. Better luck next time!
ur so smug.
i have died and seen the afterlife. i understand fully life's meaning and the purpose of every human being. and guess what ive come to decide. F*ck you all. work it out for your damn selves! you're not worth teaching with your judgemental smugness. everyone who comes to try to teach you. u mistreat, abuse and even kill. soo guess what.. suck my d*ck. because i am certainly not going to be the one to enlighten a bunch of worthless judgemental strangers. once i wanted to help but now.. u can all go to hell!
instead i choose to taunt you all for your limited understanding of life's mysteries. you all suck. are eternal stupid, ignorant hypocritical a-holes who think because u cant see something it isnt there, yet never took the time to search. good on you. envy those who accomplish understanding. but who laughs last laughs best. doubt me if you will.. only adds more to show that you dont know jack!edit on 5-6-2012 by 0mage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by smithjustinb
Perfect,
Back on topic.
In your OP, you conclude that the mind is free, and the body is not. Is this demonstrable in any case?
Is the mind not a product of the body?
The body is a product of the mind. Our experience of the universe is very limited. We've only experienced this one little rock. There are those who's minds are free. They aren't limited to their bodies and can serve a functional purpose without one. They have realized their body and the bodies of others as their mind. They have realized this whole thing is a mental experience that is supposed to utilize imagination to actualize their freedom. In being more connected with their minds, they are more aware of their freedom and their imagination. I guess they found themselves to be so free that their bodies could not contain them any longer so they stopped using them.
There is nothing to experience that doesn't exist and you are free to explore your imagination.
I catch your drift. Can you point me in the direction of those whose minds are free, so that I may research them and come to my own conclusions?
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by 0mage
We are however, only absolutely free PRIOR to choice and judgement. Prior absolute freedom of the mind then involves absolute non-attachment or non-judgement, which for some might involve absolute forgiveness. It is also as the OP pointed out, a universal and non-localized phenomenon, which is totally freaky imho, that the core self isn't localized within the body, that's asounding, that such a state of mind is even possible.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by smithjustinb
When the day comes that you lose faith in this rubish ill be here holding out which ever hand im not currently punching somone with.
Horrible things happen everyday to little children.... people are horribly disfigured and disabled for life every day. Their souls... their god.... never make an apperance. You are ignoring all the disgusting things you refuse to see, but dont dispair for i made sure to remember them all.
I'm not ignoring anything. What rubbish are you referring to? I haven't advocated anything here except freedom. You got something against freedom?
Originally posted by apushforenlightment
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by smithjustinb
When the day comes that you lose faith in this rubish ill be here holding out which ever hand im not currently punching somone with.
Horrible things happen everyday to little children.... people are horribly disfigured and disabled for life every day. Their souls... their god.... never make an apperance. You are ignoring all the disgusting things you refuse to see, but dont dispair for i made sure to remember them all.
I'm not ignoring anything. What rubbish are you referring to? I haven't advocated anything here except freedom. You got something against freedom?
I agree with Wertdag. You can only have total freedom when all is totaly responsible with it. In place that are unevolved the middleway and even rought karma is needed for the most unenlightened to behave. Sacrifice yourself for the right thing is a nice thing to do but it is only right when your suroundings can learn from it and evolve. Sometimes being an asshole is the right choice. Some people cant handle nice and just take advantage and demand more if you are not an asshole.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by apushforenlightment
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by smithjustinb
When the day comes that you lose faith in this rubish ill be here holding out which ever hand im not currently punching somone with.
Horrible things happen everyday to little children.... people are horribly disfigured and disabled for life every day. Their souls... their god.... never make an apperance. You are ignoring all the disgusting things you refuse to see, but dont dispair for i made sure to remember them all.
I'm not ignoring anything. What rubbish are you referring to? I haven't advocated anything here except freedom. You got something against freedom?
I agree with Wertdag. You can only have total freedom when all is totaly responsible with it. In place that are unevolved the middleway and even rought karma is needed for the most unenlightened to behave. Sacrifice yourself for the right thing is a nice thing to do but it is only right when your suroundings can learn from it and evolve. Sometimes being an asshole is the right choice. Some people cant handle nice and just take advantage and demand more if you are not an asshole.
Being an a$hole is my way of demanding respect of my freedom. It's my way of saying, "Hey, stop trying to control me" In inhibiting others' freedom, you're inhibiting everyone involved's. I'm not going to allow that to happen. I will fight for my freedom and allow you yours. If you try to control me, by me opposing that, I'm actually bringing you closer to your own freedom.
Originally posted by apushforenlightment
But you and me both know we will probably never come to a place where you and me will have any wishes to control the other. We are probably on a similar page but you describe it one way and I another.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by smithjustinb
Perfect,
Back on topic.
In your OP, you conclude that the mind is free, and the body is not. Is this demonstrable in any case?
Is the mind not a product of the body?
The body is a product of the mind. Our experience of the universe is very limited. We've only experienced this one little rock. There are those who's minds are free. They aren't limited to their bodies and can serve a functional purpose without one. They have realized their body and the bodies of others as their mind. They have realized this whole thing is a mental experience that is supposed to utilize imagination to actualize their freedom. In being more connected with their minds, they are more aware of their freedom and their imagination. I guess they found themselves to be so free that their bodies could not contain them any longer so they stopped using them.
There is nothing to experience that doesn't exist and you are free to explore your imagination.
I catch your drift. Can you point me in the direction of those whose minds are free, so that I may research them and come to my own conclusions?
Everyone's mind is free. The body temporarily contains the mind. This does not mean the mind is now limited, or no longer free, its just that the body is made unaware of the mind's freedom through the duration of the incarnation. These perceived limitations are illusions that are the product of the brain's self-centered function. Freedom comes when the focus is taken off the self and put on others because it is the others that constitute your mind and its freedom.
The brain is the interpreter of the mind. Its relativistic interpretations, which are mostly false, create the illusion of separation of mind, which inhibits your ability to use your imagination, which is at the apex of your free mind.
You should try lucid dreaming. In lucid dreaming, you become much more aware of just how free your mind is.
That is about the full extent of my belief in oneness. But I also would like to add that such a system could not be possible if their was not an underlying regulator of the system (unifier). The individual components of the system are unified because they are able to co-exist inter-dependently. In other words, there is something between individuals that recognizes the relative importance of each individual in such a way that it even allows them to co-exist in the first place, without destroying each other. Such compassion is unmatched by us mere humans, so there must be a higher intelligence governing this quarantine. I know there is. I've seen them myself. They tried to quarantine me. But I'm gonna rise above and get my freedom back.
You know. I joined abovetopsecret.com after my experiences. I think this place keeps my mind in check. I think it was part of the plan.