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Originally posted by eriktheawful
reply to post by AussieAmandaC
In physics, "energy" is normally defined as:
In physics, energy (Ancient Greek: ἐνέργεια energeia "activity, operation"[1]) is an indirectly observed quantity. It is often understood as the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems.[2][3] Since work is defined as a force acting through a distance (a length of space), energy is always equivalent to the ability to exert pulls or pushes against the basic forces of nature, along a path of a certain length.
Energy
Forms Of Energy
Dark Energy is a hypothetical type of energy, meaning it's a possible explanation for an observed phenomenon, but not something that can be proven or tested.
Anyone can put forth a hypothesis, but that is all it will remain unless you can show repeatable test results proving it to be more than just a hypothesis. From there, peer review can repeat your tests, and if obtaining the same results or observations, it goes from the area of hypothesis to fact.
Originally posted by stereologist
Where is any evidence at all for this claim? Why say that when there is no effect or source or detection?
Originally posted by AussieAmandaC
Originally posted by eriktheawful
reply to post by AussieAmandaC
In physics, "energy" is normally defined as:
In physics, energy (Ancient Greek: ἐνέργεια energeia "activity, operation"[1]) is an indirectly observed quantity. It is often understood as the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems.[2][3] Since work is defined as a force acting through a distance (a length of space), energy is always equivalent to the ability to exert pulls or pushes against the basic forces of nature, along a path of a certain length.
Energy
Forms Of Energy
Dark Energy is a hypothetical type of energy, meaning it's a possible explanation for an observed phenomenon, but not something that can be proven or tested.
Anyone can put forth a hypothesis, but that is all it will remain unless you can show repeatable test results proving it to be more than just a hypothesis. From there, peer review can repeat your tests, and if obtaining the same results or observations, it goes from the area of hypothesis to fact.
See?! You understand perfectly.
That was very helpful, thanks x
The Greeks were very clever at quantifying how to think weren't they
Do I have to wait for someone else to say it as fact before I accept it as true? I think not, I will make up my own mind thanks. Not based on someone who shoots down conversation for the sake of their own ignorance.
Do you think the planet is a living thing erik?
ummm......(weird moment) YOUR posts on THIS thread, if anyone wants to check sources.
No personal attack, just an observation of your character.
Energy?
You will have to provide for me sir, accreditation pertaining to this particular study and all relevant links pictures and explanations and history, since you're sticking your chin out as an expert and wanting to be the energy police.
If you don't feel the life in the planet how could you feel the energy of anything? and therefore know how to measure it?
That was very helpful, thanks x
The Greeks were very clever at quantifying how to think weren't they
Do I have to wait for someone else to say it as fact before I accept it as true? I think not, I will make up my own mind thanks. Not based on someone who shoots down conversation for the sake of their own ignorance.
Do you think the planet is a living thing erik?
You're bizarre! There's no evidence at all that there's no mysterious energy. I mean we don't even understand Dark Matter yet do we? But it makes up around half the universe, or more? Aren't you allowed to be wrong or something?
You said there's no mysterious energy coming from anywhere, but you have no evidence for that claim at all. Just saying.
Again, I'm not supporting this thread, still haven't even read the OP properly yet, I just think some of you go way over the top being skeptical sometimes. I'm one of the people that respects skeptics btw, just don't think you help when you get into ott statements defending the "currently accepted" version of things.
Originally posted by robhines
You're bizarre!
There's no evidence at all that there's no mysterious energy
Originally posted by stereologist
When you find some evidence for this mysterious gobbledygook you can get back to us. In the mean time there is a whole universe of interesting things to consider rather than mysterious undetectable, unknowable gobbledygook.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
There is no evidence that T-rex does not live in the woods two miles north from my village. You, however, insist that we declare said woods protected area because it harbors rare species.
Sheesh.
Originally posted by robhines
Nice try, not biting though, sorry!
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by robhines
Nice try, not biting though, sorry!
I don't care whether you bite. You are saying that anyone who's saying that the idea of spaghetti monsters populating the center of Hollow Earth is bullsh!t needs their head to be examined, because no one has ever visited the center of the Earth. Enough said.
Originally posted by stereologist
The claim of a straw man argument falls flat on its face.
Originally posted by stereologist
As I stated before there is no mysterious energy. If there were there must be some evidence for it.
Originally posted by robhines
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by robhines
Nice try, not biting though, sorry!
I don't care whether you bite. You are saying that anyone who's saying that the idea of spaghetti monsters populating the center of Hollow Earth is bullsh!t needs their head to be examined, because no one has ever visited the center of the Earth. Enough said.
Straw man again, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that it's worth keeping an open mind about currently unknown energies being present in the universe that we might come into contact with and/or recognise one day.
now
this is EXACTLY what is about to happen, these days -
this incoming energy from the galactic centre will cause a ' extension ' of the human dna,
as in 'longer working sequences '
- not to make the human size larger, but to ' activate long-dormant sequences '
Straw man again, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that it's worth keeping an open mind about currently unknown energies being present in the universe that we might come into contact with and/or recognise one day.
So you're the one creating fictitious arguments, stereologist is saying that because he/she doesn't know of something it doesn't exist, not me. You're sounding like a pair of clowns to be honest, and you'd think I was defending the OP the way you're both going at me. Why bother? You're making people less likely to believe you when you have valid arguments.
There's no evidence at all that there's no mysterious energy.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by robhines
Your claims remind me of second graders I sometimes teach. You just look and wonder when they will figure things out. These kids change by the third grade in which they begin to have a better understanding of the world around them. By the fourth grade mysterious energies, the Easter bunny, and Santa are replaced with questions about how we find something tangible to study.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
What exactly does having an open mind have to do with this pile of cr@p in the OP of this thread?
now
this is EXACTLY what is about to happen, these days -
this incoming energy from the galactic centre will cause a ' extension ' of the human dna,
as in 'longer working sequences '
- not to make the human size larger, but to ' activate long-dormant sequences '
Originally posted by stereologist
What I stated is that there is no mysterious energy.
We know very little about the way the universe and ourselves actually work. What many people do though is attack as if knowing what's going to happen. In this case nothing will happen if you're right, which is usually the case, but I don't think it's right to pretty much attack people for keeping an open mind.
How do you know this? Did you go out in a ship and check everywhere? I appreciate some of you helping to keep things real, but by stretching to this degree, bold statements like that, it no longer makes any rational sense. We have no idea what all of the different types of energy actually are out there, because it's highly likely we've got no method for detecting them all yet. We're probably like kids playing with toys when it comes to our scientific understanding, and it might be a long while yet before we fully understand what's really happening.
So there could be many, many energies out there, that to us, at least for the time being, are still mysterious
There are no mysterious energies coming from the other planets or anywhere else.
As for the chems, they are used to diffuse and scatter the energy we interact with coming from the sun, planets, galaxies etc. As the OP pointed out, that energy is forcing change upon the planet and certain folks are not keen on the change at all, they like their slaves devoted to religious realities, science realities and so on and they seek to keep their cattle in place. By blocking the altering energies, and then feeding countering energies in place, they hope to stop the changes happening to us. It will fail, but it is fun to see them put so much energy into the system of control and to see how many people love their prison cell so much they'll defend the actions of their own oppressors to the death.
Originally posted by stereologist
So there it is a specific claim of evidence for mysterious energies and then you come careening in here with some whimsical and poorly written straw man argument.
You might want to look up things like the contrapositive and rework your statement to remove the negatives.
So please read the thread before careening off topic next time.
Haha, so now I'm doing the straw man! Ok, I'm bored now.
There's no mysterious energies anywhere, ok. Have fun in the future!
Originally posted by robhines
Knowing that you don't consciously know one way or the other about it, so you just have to wait and see? We know very little about the way the universe and ourselves actually work. What many people do though is attack as if knowing what's going to happen.