5 Million Farmers Sue Monsanto for $7.7 Billion

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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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wtg farrmers....the end of Monsanto...brings a smile to my face




posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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I want to add to this thread... but not repeat what others already contributed ... so i will say this:

Monsanto is only a corporation in name ... as far as the financial cartel, the energy cartel, Big Chemical, and so many more... Monsanto is a sovereign nation..... just like they are.

They have impregnable sovereignty, vast resources, political clout, diplomatic presence, direct input to global and local legislation, utter freedom from liability via their corporate "shield," and most importantly ----- they have freedom to do as they will with complete low-cost support from the little political personalities that buzz around them....



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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You said it. Here's the full story. It's a couple of hours well spent — no more than you'd spend on any other horror movie:





Yet people can still say no. If it matters to them...



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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I hope the farmers win and the judge allows the claim. Monsanto will appeal it and I hope the appeal is fast and they lose the appeal. I hope it goes to the supreme court and they vote in favor of the farmer also. Monsanto needs to be put back into it's place as a provider of a service, not a company that creates laws to protect it's monopoly. I have no problem with genetic engineering of food gradually with small consumption of the population of the product till we get acclimated to it. Their products are being introduced at overwhelming speed and they should be liable for all problems they cause. No company should have this much power over the American people's diet using unproven chemistry.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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Proly get government protection. To big to fail lol
Monsanto and their anti human practices must GOOooooo

S+F Nsp



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by kn0wh0w

They're genetically engineering what took millions of years to evolve naturally.



Not a problem if they do it right. But selling half-assed products which they know will cause health problems is the worst thing to do. If things go according to Monsanto, it won't be long until it becomes like the Umbrella Corporation. One corporation in control of whole world's food supply. Thats a big no no.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
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I already do it, in order to boycott their manufactured crap you have to stay away from anything that is manufactured, frozen, canned and mass produced.

I travel 2 hours and half just to get natural grown products and raw milk grass feed cows.

I refuse to support them or anybody that sell their crap.

But don't even think that we can get any help from the corporate dictatorship we call government because the biggest whore of all Obama appointed recently a monspanto minion to food Czar, so the criminal crocks are already and has been in our government



I do this too. And it's really not that hard to avoid GMOs. I can even go to my normal grocery store. You just have to know what to avoid and you have to make a lot of your own stuff. So what? No GMO in me!



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Phew... This thread is a rather pleasant surprise... i was half expecting it to be laced with shills showing support for this evil entity.

S+F for the OP... Can’t really add much more than what already been said. Thanks to everyone who has contributed, so far, I now know that I’m not alone in my disgust at this companies practices

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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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What I've heard, anecdotal evidence, is that farmer X plants with Monsanto seed on his acreage. Some of the seeds from the planting stray over into farmer Y's fields that are adjacent to the Monsanto planted crops. Farmer Y is then told that he is in violation of the Monsanto patents for growing a crop with the Monsanto seeds that strayed onto his fields, likely mixing with whatever brand he intended to plant. Instead of letting this go as the cost of doing business Monsanto sues farmer Y, who is forced to settle because he cannot afford to fight the case in court, and is facing an injunction that can prevent the harvest.
What is so egregious about all of this is that Monsanto has the scientific tools to prove the growing plants, in whatever percentage, are theirs. The farmer who wants to fight has to spend inordinate amounts to prove the low percentage of drifted seed into his crops - essentially DNA test a huge number of plants.
The other argument farmers have is that after they grow a Monsanto crop they cannot retain seed. For millenia farmers have saved seed from one harvest in order to plant for the next. Monsanto, owning the patents, contends that this is a violation of what they consider to be fair use.
In some respects I can understand both sides to the lawsuit. One is that Monsanto spent a lot of money to genetically engineer the plants. The other has to do with what should be considered fair or expected use by the consumer. I guess I would rather see the farmer win, but the cost could be high when we look at the unexpected results. Perhaps no other company investing as heavily into food crops as Monsanto has done - and the actual starvation of those who could have benefited from the higher harvests.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Yes it takes time for me to shop as I have to read labels, as GMO are in almost everything manufactured and pre package with many different names.

Now they are spending their tentacles of deception and poison to states that do no allow GMO corn due to the cross pollination with incentives and grants in the millions to agricultural departments in colleges to research on natives crops

Here in GA that is been so far a big defendant of organic farmers they are giving money to Universities like UGA to manipulate the GA well known Muscadine fruits that is so incredibly natural in antioxidants like reveratrol when used for wine.

To turn them into nothing but crap when they poison them with with round up.

Another big crop in GA is peanuts, Con Agra is now trying to manufacture a peanut that will be stripped of their protein to be able to feed people with allergies

If you take the proteins from the peanut all you will get is nothing but crap. When I was growing up peanut butter warm milk was served in the schools in the 60s and 70s as a source of protein and nobody I knew had any problems with allergies, the allergies issue is more of a modern dilemma than the source itself.

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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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AHEM




posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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From Source:


After finding that their harvests were failing and they began to enter economic turmoil, the farmers began ending their own lives — oftentimes drinking the very same insecticide that Monsanto provided them with.

Heres our products (smile). Use one to kill your company and afterwards use the other to kill yourself (grin).

In India no less. I guess Bopal comes to mind. How many did we kill this way this time? 17000?
Don't even tell me they killed themselves. They were out and out lied to every step of the way until some had no recourse but to end it. When that many commit suicide by drinking insecticide you know how dead they'd rather be than face one more year of Monsanto Farming methods. How bad does that have to be?



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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One could only hope these corrupt mother truckers go down for all of the deaths they've caused through cancer, greed, and destruction. Something tells me they will get away with it though....



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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The other argument farmers have is that after they grow a Monsanto crop they cannot retain seed. For millenia farmers have saved seed from one harvest in order to plant for the next. Monsanto, owning the patents, contends that this is a violation of what they consider to be fair use.
In some respects I can understand both sides to the lawsuit. One is that Monsanto spent a lot of money to genetically engineer the plants. The other has to do with what should be considered fair or expected use by the consumer. I guess I would rather see the farmer win, but the cost could be high when we look at the unexpected results. Perhaps no other company investing as heavily into food crops as Monsanto has done - and the actual starvation of those who could have benefited from the higher harvests.


"Fair Use" as Monsanto's lawyers put it, kind of throws their whole excuse of being there to create bigger yields, so that they can feed the world is a contradiction of their own words and purpose, is it not? If they want to argue that their sole purpose is creating produce that will grow so that they can feed the masses, but yet turn around and use their pathetic monetary reasons to put an honest farmer out of business........just how exactly can they EVER come across as a company that is trying to help the world and save it from starvation? It is all about murder, control, and above all, MONEY! I really don't understand how anyone with a conscious, could even work for this company, let alone be able to sleep at night!



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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Saw a doc the other night called food inc Sure a top doco. Mons@nto imo are nothing more than maggots chewing away at USA farming. I found it hard to believe that you guys over there in the "country of free speech" are unable to open your mouths about stuff to do with crops. The saying that America is the land of litigation seems true when farmers are rolling over due to Monsanto with its big bucks steamrolling over them. One bloke in the doc said his family had spent US$400,000 even befoe they went to court to battle them but were told that they would be up for a further 1 MILLION so they rolled over. Monsanto might have developed soy seeds that are reistant to many pests but they forgot to make them resistant to the "Mons@nto maggot", one of the most insideous pests out there (naturally this is only MY OPINION). Good luck farmers, I hope you get em good.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by MarksThoughts
What I've heard, anecdotal evidence, is that farmer X plants with Monsanto seed on his acreage. Some of the seeds from the planting stray over into farmer Y's fields that are adjacent to the Monsanto planted crops. Farmer Y is then told that he is in violation of the Monsanto patents for growing a crop with the Monsanto seeds that strayed onto his fields, likely mixing with whatever brand he intended to plant. Instead of letting this go as the cost of doing business Monsanto sues farmer Y, who is forced to settle because he cannot afford to fight the case in court, and is facing an injunction that can prevent the harvest.
What is so egregious about all of this is that Monsanto has the scientific tools to prove the growing plants, in whatever percentage, are theirs. The farmer who wants to fight has to spend inordinate amounts to prove the low percentage of drifted seed into his crops - essentially DNA test a huge number of plants.
The other argument farmers have is that after they grow a Monsanto crop they cannot retain seed. For millenia farmers have saved seed from one harvest in order to plant for the next. Monsanto, owning the patents, contends that this is a violation of what they consider to be fair use.
In some respects I can understand both sides to the lawsuit. One is that Monsanto spent a lot of money to genetically engineer the plants. The other has to do with what should be considered fair or expected use by the consumer. I guess I would rather see the farmer win, but the cost could be high when we look at the unexpected results. Perhaps no other company investing as heavily into food crops as Monsanto has done - and the actual starvation of those who could have benefited from the higher harvests.


Well from what I've researched, many of the Monsanto crops do not perform higher than normal ones anyway. Some of them perform higher for a short 2-3 year period, and that's it. Many have been proven to perform 1/3rd lower. And in any event, this has very little do with starvation or not. There is enough food in the world already, so I don't know why people keep harping on the "save the starving" thing.

Monsanto's crops also leave the soil they're in very dead after just a few seasons, not to mention create superweeds that are totally resistant to Roundup and other pesticides.
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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I hope to h8ll the farmers win this suit! Monsanto needs to be erased from this planet!!
It may have been mentioned before but I believe a 5 digit number on produce (that does NOT start with 9, 9 is organic) is for gmo frankenfoods. I think it is not mandatory (&%$#@!) for them to be labeled though. I'm studying alternative technologies in school-- some of the lectures on this have been Truly terrifying. I've started a garden again this year with heirloom seeds, but there really isn't much the small time gardner can do to protect crops from gmo contamination. I am doing all I can though it is difficult. I do my best to not support these companies, not buy processed foods at all, try as best as able to buy local, 100% organic fruits and vegetables, grow my own food, store/can my own food, support local bee populations. Maybe we could start an ATS seed swap group or something!



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
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Yes it takes time for me to shop as I have to read labels, as GMO are in almost everything manufactured and pre package with many different names.

Now they are spending their tentacles of deception and poison to states that do no allow GMO corn due to the cross pollination with incentives and grants in the millions to agricultural departments in colleges to research on natives crops

Here in GA that is been so far a big defendant of organic farmers they are giving money to Universities like UGA to manipulate the GA well known Muscadine fruits that is so incredibly natural in antioxidants like reveratrol when used for wine.

To turn them into nothing but crap when they poison them with with round up.

Another big crop in GA is peanuts, Con Agra is now trying to manufacture a peanut that will be stripped of their protein to be able to feed people with allergies

If you take the proteins from the peanut all you will get is nothing but crap. When I was growing up peanut butter warm milk was served in the schools in the 60s and 70s as a source of protein and nobody I knew had any problems with allergies, the allergies issue is more of a modern dilemma than the source itself.

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Not to bring a much maligned topic into this thread (well actually, YES to bring it in) but the whole peanut thing is so obvious. The widespread allergies started in the early 90s, right when the childhood vaccines (some of which at the time contained PEANUT OIL) were pushed so hard. And because of this, they decide to introduce a food that is even more unnatural? Yay!



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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I believe there is a trend here, and the beginning of Giants falling... ie. Corporations.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Everyone in america needs to start growing a small backyard garden and lets see what these bastards have to say.





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