reply to post by Xcathdra
Recognizing the rock and a hard place you are in regarding this thread, and clinging firmly to the belief that you do have genuine regard for the oath
of office you took, I have turned a blind eye to some of your bogus preist class lawyer mystical incantation nonsense, but you're the one who went
knocking on my door begging for a spanking, so go get the switch little boy, its time for your spanking.
You are trying to conflate different Supreme Court rulings in an attempt to justify sloppy police work that showed a profound disregard for the rights
of the people those police serve. The Supreme Court held in Michigan Department of State Police v. Sitz that roadblocks set up to snare drunk drivers
was Constitutional and did not violate motorists 4th Amendment rights, holding: "no one can seriously dispute the magnitude of the drunken driving
problem or the States' interest in eradicating it." The magnitude of the drunken driving problem is not the same thing as a "tip" to police officers
that bank robbers in a getaway car were at a traffic stop, but no one knows what the gender, or race of the bank robbers are, nor what kind of car
Indeed, because Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz is not nearly enough to justify the Aurora bank stooges actions, you have conflated it with
several other Supreme Court rulings as if the SCOTUS is a restaurant where you can order off the menu a la carte and just mix and match your entree to
suit your purposes. All case law is very narrow in its scope and pertains the very narrow facts of that case.
I have spoken enough in regards to Terry v. Ohio in this thread to make clear that that ruling has no application in the Aurora gangland incident
where gang members converged upon 19 vehicles placing many innocent people in harms way, and worse, treating those innocent victims as if they were
enemy gang members and the turf war was on. Terry v. Ohio just does not apply, thus your references of Riordan and Bruzy v. Trooper Joyner et. al,
which by the way is a Connecticut District Court ruling and Colorado judges are not bound by that ruling even if it did apply, but Terry v. Ohio does
not apply to the Aurora incident. U.S. v. Vargas, is also a "Terry stop" case, which by the way is a 2nd Circuit ruling which also does not bind any
Colorado judge even if it did apply, of which it does not. You are wasting your time with the "Terry stop" desperation.
In regards to both Muehler v. Mena and Michigan v. Summers the police in both incidents were executing lawful search warrants. If you are hoping to
argue that the ex post facto searches "allowed" by the unlawfully arrested innocent people of Aurora Colorado was a lawful execution of search
warrants I am not only going to spank you, I am going to disown you. You know damn well that ex post facto shenanigans are not at all tolerated in
I have shown patience with you in this thread up to now because you had begun by effectively executing a precarious balancing act, and as long as you
were sticking to arguments that we don't know all the facts, and that until someone brings charges against the offending officers the gangland justice
that the Aurora police administered stands, I was willing to turn a blind eye. While I have little patience for that sort of equivocation, as I said,
I understand the rock and a hard place you are in on this one, but you had to know the moment you started uttering the mystical incantations of case
law without any understanding of that case law you had to know that I would call you on that.
Farnia confessed the Aurora police departments crimes openly and quoted by countless news agencies across the nation, but to make things even worse,
the moronic Chief of Police of Aurora placed that police department at great risk of massive law suits ripe for the picking by any ambulance chaser in
the area. The Aurora police department had plausible denial-ability until he opened his big mouth and backed that tactical error by Farnia, et al.
Now the entire Aurora police department is liable for those actions.
Were I the Mayor of Aurora I would have demanded that Chief of Police's resignation immediately and placed his big mouth head on a pike as necessary
edit on 6-6-2012 by Jean Paul Zodeaux because: (no reason given)