Police Stop, Handcuff Every Adult at Intersection in Search for Bank Robber

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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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These people should get together and go forward with a class action lawsuit! If the police doesn't have to answer for this they will continue to worsen and continue abusing our civil rights!!
FIGHT BACK!



Police in Aurora, Colo., searching for suspected bank robbers stopped every car at an intersection, handcuffed all the adults and searched the cars, one of which they believed was carrying the suspect.
Police said they had received what they called a “reliable” tip that the culprit in an armed robbery at a Wells Fargo bank committed earlier was stopped at the red light.
“We didn’t have a description, didn’t know race or gender or anything, so a split-second decision was made to stop all the cars at that intersection, and search for the armed robber,” Aurora police Officer Frank Fania told ABC News.
Officers barricaded the area, halting 19 cars.
“Cops came in from every direction and just threw their car in front of my car,” Sonya Romero, one of the drivers who was handcuffed, told ABC News

abcnews.go.com...
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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Nope. Legal detention and public safety preceeds individual rights. They were released right? Then there was no offense on the part of legal detention.


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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Nope. Legal detention and public safety preceeds individual rights. They were released right? Then there was no offense on the part of legal detention.


Legal?
link please

collective punishment is a NAZI type thing...
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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“We didn’t have a description, didn’t know race or gender or anything, so a split-second decision was made to stop all the cars at that intersection, and search for the armed robber,” Aurora police Officer Frank Fania told ABC News.


That's insane.

"We have no idea who we're looking for so we're just going to search everyone until we find somebody we can charge with something."

Amazing.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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I hope this is sarcasm.


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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Nope. Legal detention and public safety preceeds individual rights. They were released right? Then there was no offense on the part of legal detention.


Wrong. This would not fall under police privilege for a false imprisonment lawsuit.

And the police wonder why more and more people hate them lol.

The fact that the article states EVERYONE consented to letting the cops search their cars is a very sad and pathetic commentary on the American people today.
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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It doesn't sound like they had probable cause.

So yeah...,big problem. Even if they found the culprits, a defense attorney could get the search thrown out.


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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Nope. Legal detention and public safety preceeds individual rights. They were released right? Then there was no offense on the part of legal detention.
And this is how we slowly succumb and lose our liberty, little by little.


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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Police said they had received what they called a “reliable” tip that the culprit in an armed robbery at a Wells Fargo bank committed earlier was stopped at the red light. “We didn’t have a description, didn’t know race or gender or anything, so a split-second decision was made to stop all the cars at that intersection, and search for the armed robber,” Aurora police Officer Frank Fania told ABC News.


That's some "reliable tip" you got there. "They're in some sort of car." Solid tip. Solid.


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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Nope. Legal detention and public safety preceeds individual rights. They were released right? Then there was no offense on the part of legal detention.


Bolshevik!


The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.




To have reasonable suspicion that would justify a stop, police must be able to point to “specific and articulable facts” that would indicate to a reasonable person that a crime has been, is being, or is about to be committed.[5] Reasonable suspicion depends on the “totality of the circumstances”,[6] and can result from a combination of facts, each of which is by itself innocuous.


Additionally, if police stopped 19 cars and one of them truly was carrying an "armed and dangerous" bank robber, wouldn't stopping all those cars together create a safety concern for the other 18 cars full of innocent people? What if the robber decided to blast his way out of the situation? He would have had a whole lot of potential hostages/victims. Bad police work here, both from a legal and common sense perspective.


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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by FreeFromTheHerd

The fact that the article states EVERYONE consented to letting the cops search their cars is a very sad and pathetic commentary on the American people today.


I'm curious to know what sort of coercion was used.

A little: "We can search your car now or have it impounded for a week and take it apart piece by piece"
Or maybe some: "We can search your car now or call in a dog and hold you here all day"
Perhaps some good old fashioned: "If you dont let us search we'll hold you for obstruction"

It's taught to all of us from a very young age to just do what they say because they're all so righteous and caring and only here to help.

It isnt until you've lived a little you realize the whole: "If you get lost find a policeman and tell him your address" thing the worst advice you can give a kid.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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The search was by consent...

The roablock stopped every car meeting established criteria...

The armed bank robber was among those 19 cars that were stopped....

Once the police cleared each car the people were released and allowed to continue....

Both sides have valid arguments, making the action subject to court interpretation within existing laws and case laws. The argument by the police is going to be investigative detentions based on credible information, and since the criminal was located it should be interesting to see how this plays out.

For this the term people need to be familiar with is "good faith exception".
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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Link? Are you serious? Legal detention. Public safety. Look it up.
Being detained for no reason given for a certain amount of hours and THEN being released.

Im not doing the work for you...look it up.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Nope. Us laws enacted for public safety by every Police department here.


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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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The search was by consent...


Can the horrid 'newspeak'.

It wasn't by "consent". This is like saying when a cop points his gun at you and says, "Please get out of the car now sir.", is "consent". So I suppose if you said, "No, I wish to stay in my vehicle, and drive home." the officer would oblige and let you on your merry way?

Consent.

Just go... go away, with this.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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They do not need probable cause. And can hold overnight even...WITHOUT telling you why....look it up.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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How can you not have watched any Police shows about holding you without reason nor warrant? They can and do...and have been for 50-60-70 yrs at least or more...



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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Under duress and threats is the new "consent."



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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This is intersesting.

It demonstrates perfectly how weak and pathetic american citizens have become.

If you disobey the cops in a situation like this they would probably shoot you dead for being belligerent.

These kind of situatuions show how much police officers now have total control over the scared public. They are only one step away from having the buses role up and start shipping people to camps.

Most people are now so scared and so dumb they wont even ask where they are been sent to.

And america calls itself a democracy.

In a few more years they will just send out drones to bomb any cars in the vicinity of the robbery.

(and don't forget they cuffed and detained all these people on behalf of a bank. too funny)
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
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How can you not have watched any Police shows about holding you without reason nor warrant? They can and do...and have been for 50-60-70 yrs at least or more...


Don't be obtuse.

The replies are because your response was rationalizing a sensitive topic, and rather absurd incident. It was a mass-detention, and it sets precedent for future events.

"Stopping and arresting everyone worked last time. Let's arrest all 1,000 people in this town so we can pinch the evil-doer. Also, deploy the predator drones in case any stragglers run past the containment zone."





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