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Lucifer is evil, part of the devil.
Dont try getting people to start thinking Lucifer is in relation to Jesus Christ.. because they are not the same.
I had found the information regarding the numerology on a website but it did not present the origin of the number 9. I will post the link to the site once I find it if that helps!
Why would you post something that you can't independently verify?
O.E. Lucifer "Satan," also "morning star," from L. Lucifer "morning star," lit. "light-bringing," from lux (gen. lucis) "light" (see light (n.)) + ferre "carry" (see infer). Belief that it was the proper name of Satan began with its use in Bible to translate Gk. Phosphoros, which translates Heb. Helel ben Shahar in Isaiah xiv:12 -- "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" [KJV] Because of the mention of a fall from Heaven, the verse was interpreted by Christians as a reference to Satan, even though it is literally a reference to the King of Babylon (cf. Isaiah xiv:4). Lucifer match "friction match" is from 1831. Adjectival forms include Luciferian, Luciferine, Luciferous. There was a noted Bishop Lucifer of Cagliari in Sardinia in the 4th century, regarded locally as a saint. luciferous Look up luciferous at Dictionary.com "light-bringing, emitting light," 1650s, from L. lucifer (see Lucifer) + -ous. Figurative use is earliest (1640s) and more common.
1680s, from Heb. gematriya, from Gk. geometria (see geometry). "[E]xplanation of the sense of a word by substituting for it another word, so that the numerical value of the letters constituting either word is identical"
proper name of the supreme evil spirit in Christianity, O.E. Satan, from L.L. Satan (in Vulgate, in O.T. only), from Gk. Satanas, from Heb. satan "adversary, one who plots against another," from satan "to show enmity to, oppose, plot against," from root s-t-n "one who opposes, obstructs, or acts as an adversary." In Septuagint (Gk.) usually translated as diabolos "slanderer," lit. "one who throws (something) across" the path of another (see devil), though epiboulos "plotter" is used once. In biblical sources the Hebrew term the satan describes an adversarial role. It is not the name of a particular character. Although Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century B.C.E. occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the satan, what they meant was any one of the angels sent by God for the specific purpose of blocking or obstructing human activity. [Elaine Pagels, "The Origin of Satan," 1995]
Originally posted by Tresker
Epic brainstorm you have going there haha. Give me moar pl0x
Originally posted by Murgatroid
I believe that this thread and the "Does EVIL really exist?" thread are both tied for first place in the race to prove that there really is no intelligent life on Earth.
originally posted by: soaringhawk
reply to post by toocoolnc
Jesus kept no secrets and neither his apostles. Jesus came to do the will of the Father. You ask, did Jesus say he's the bright morning star? Yes in Revelation 22. Did Jesus say Lucifer is a counterfeit? Yes he did. he said that Satan is the father of lies. Jesus is God and God is the same yesterday, today and forever. Secret oaths, orders, societies are against God and a Christian can have no part with them. The Holy Bible is the word of God and by reading the Holy Bible, we see the plan to bring the Redeemer from Genesis. Satan wanted to be god and because he knows God, Satan perverts the truth of God to deceive people into believing a lie. Just as we are told that Satan will deceive if possible even the elect. Satan, the great adversary and his legion deceive the world, deceived me, and is deceiving you. There is no truth in the mystery schools and those belonging to them have the spirit of error.
We all need the savior and I hope some day you will know the real truth about God. No one seeks God, so it's only by the Holy Spirit that we who are truly Christian can even get on our knees and pray Lord Jesus!