My run-in with Donald Nixon and the info he divulged

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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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In my opinion, the lilac medicine shoulda been sent to a research department

Make a bit of coin finding the cure for all humanity, yknow? But then again, it could just be poison


On a serious note, I like this. Talking with the older political gentlemen who have nothing to hide, it feels amazing knowing things you did not know even existed.




posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 01:22 AM
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The basic way that he describes how the serum was produced indicates that it took advantage of the principles of biophotonic resonance. By supercharging the genetic structure the biophotonic resonance would be amplified.
Assuming it resonates at a frequency complementary to a healthy human genome or immune system it is conceivable that the biophotonic emission of the supercharged/irradiated dna of the lilac could be applied via rubing on the skin by taking advantage of the principle in nature called entrainment and the fact that human dna cummunicates via photonic emission of 4-20 photons per second.
Ref Death Photon experiment.

I just wanted to add that one could do a simple biophotonic test utilizing uv to lilac then extracting the dna and applying it to an area on ones skin that perhaps contains a fungal infection. The immune system reaction should be evident by an increase of bloodflow to the topical application. Extracting the dna without destroying it would be the technique you would want to get down pack. Just wanted to add that I am not a doctor however have worked in several chemistry and radio labs. My assumption on testing is my own opinion/knowledge experience and not the opinion of someone with a Doctorate in Medicine.Having made this point photonic resonance and radio transmission is my field of expertise. For those interested in Biophotonic resonance and biophotonic emission it will change the way you view health.
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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by FORMe2p00p0n
He said all you need to do is dab your finger and put it on your skin, it will absorb through your skin and stimulate your natural antibodies to become super antibodies that will seek out and destroy ALL disease.


Wonder what this supering up of antibodies would do to someone with autoimmune diseases?
My guess .. it would make it worse.

Sjogrens is something that originates in the bone marrow (they think).
I'm wondering if this super-remedy would be able to get into the bone marrow and heal?
Blood cancers and some autoimmune diseases deal with bone marrow.

Anyways .. interesting thread. DIFFERENT from the usual stuff here !



posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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Well the "serum" he gave me was for external use and he never mentioned injecting it... he said to apply it like colonge... wet the finger and dab it on the neck.

...and yes I did try it for the first few days, and probably would of continued to use it, just because, but at that time I really wanted to save it and find someone that could analize it. I even tried to contact a couple medical facilities (with no clue as to who to even give it to) ..... and I'm sure you guys can guess the reactions I got?
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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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Yes, here is another:



Jim Looney is one of as many as 100 people with the virus that causes AIDS who were convinced that the Viroxan concocted in a doctor's home could keep them alive, even cure them of AIDS. And Looney, who spent about $20,000 on the treatment, which he took for nine months, is angry and embittered by his experience. He has lumps of dead tissue on his buttocks and hips from the painful Viroxan injections and potentially serious blood clots from the catheter; and the drug leaked under his skin, he said, so that at one point he felt like a freak of nature.


 


hmmmm.... well by reading the article


Jim Looney was determined to do whatever it took


even try experimental medicine that can kill you?


Looney decided to start injecting the drug,


He decided? as opposed to the Dr deciding?

but then...


according to Looney, his physician convinced him


and who knows.... maybe he was paid $100,000.00 to say that.... did this guy die of AIDS... does this guy still have AIDS.... the article doesn't say... but then goes over to....


Jim Templeton, a former Los Angeles resident, took Viroxan off and on for almost four years. Templeton said before he died last month that he believed "the powers that be" are trying to discredit the drug because they don't care about helping people with AIDS who are gay


four years, vouches for it, dies, but article doesn't says he died from AIDS....

actually the whole article sounds biased to me.... I am in no way saying "the stuff" is legit... just making an observation of the article


and the "serum" he gave me was clear like water... slight oily feel to it... and smelled really good (until it expired)
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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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Hey, wanted to thank you for the "above and beyond" on the lilac research... I appreciate it. It "coincidently verified" that lilac could be more plausible as the main ingredient in the "serum" as opposed to mosquito repellent : /



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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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You know, reading your post kinda pulled on some memory cords... I mean it's really hard to remember the scientific logistic he told me, but your post vaguely resembled what I remember.



posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Another thing I wanted to add is that it seems that Nixon liked to have friendship with the criminal type, and i think when Nixon Jr. saw the OP, and the way he was dressed he thought the OP was the criminal type Nixon liked to befriend.

 


You know your probably totally correct... because seriously, after he gave me the number to contact his buddy for a job (i researched it and i think it was a car dealership in Irvine by the "spectrum".... I think) ..... he implied that he would be contacting/using me in the future....

like I said before I dabbled in conspiracy prior to that.... and watched plenty of movies to know that I could get into some serious # had I gone through with it..... or maybe I was just over thinking it

In any case... I'm sure my life would be totally different from what it is now had I gone through with it... because shortly after that my car broke down, my roommate kicked me out so his sister could move in... I was going to work full time, school full time (5 miles away) and sleeping in work trucks and on the street.... after 3 months of that and being told by my extended family that they wouldn't co-sign a truck, I packed up and moved to Austin, TX (which was a WHOLE other experience in itself)


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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by OmegaLogos
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Explanation: Continued from previous post ...

Lilac Wine (lyrics) [songmeanings.net]


Lilac Wine Lyrics

I lost myself on a cool damp night
I gave myself in that misty light
Was hypnotized by a strange delight
Under a lilac tree

I made wine from the lilac tree
Put my heart in its recipe
It makes me see what I want to see
And be what I want to be

When I think more than I want to think
I do things I never should do
I drink much more that I ought to drink
Because it brings me back you

Lilac wine is sweet and heady, like my love
Lilac wine, I feel unsteady, like my love
Listen to me, I cannot see clearly
Isn't that she, coming to me nearly here?

Lilac wine is sweet and heady where's my love?
Lilac wine, I feel unsteady, where's my love?
Listen to me, why is everything so hazy?
Isn't that she, or am I just going crazy, dear?

Lilac wine, I feel unready for my love
Feel unready for my love
---
"Lilac Wine" as written by James H. Shelton
Lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc.




A more modern version of this song was sung by Jeff Buckley. Amazing album that this song is on. Not pertinent to this discussion, but when I saw the "Lilac Wine" title I had to tell you all about this musician.

Jeff Buckley died, either by suicide or accidental drowning BTW.

One of my all time favorite songs, by Jeff Buckley:



posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Your opinion seems pretty biased. You said you met Nixon years ago and he told you all this stuff. His main business partner was a scammer/con artist who stole 200 million from a Swiss mutual fund. Who created a "secret order" because he was trying to purchase an island to form a sovereign nation that would protect him from being extradited to countries that wanted to prosecute him.

While this plan was rejected by Antigua, he formed a loose partnership with Castro (An enemy of the US at the time) to take him in and shield him from the countries that wanted him.

Later, found to be involved in more fraudulent activity in Cuba...

It seems this guy never learned "Don't bite the hand that feeds you."

Lets not forget his first act of corruption by trying to pay off President Nixon to shield himself from all the future events.

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And what do you decide to believe?



Instead of taking the story for what it is...

You actually want to entertain the idea that this guy found some cure all of cancer and aids and everything else.

Wait, let me get this straight!

So we have a convicted fraud artist who stole hundreds of millions and we should believe him and all the people he conned???






And we should believe him because something like this would be "suppressed by the evil medical community because they were to lose money if it were released"

What?



The evil medical community is less of a crook than this guy. Considering he stole 200 million, evaded world authorities for decades and while ripping off everyone he ran into.....

This guy sounds worse than "The powers that be." No?

Christ almighty....




posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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woah, really guy? No reason to get all riled up... unless this Sarah chick is close to you there's no reason to take offense to what I said. I read the article, and it was missing very relevant information in my opinion... I plan to do a search on both those cases to see what they died of and maybe get more clues




And what do you decide to believe?


.... believe? I don't have enough info to believe anything... that's why I brought it to ATS... I've carried this around for 15 years and don't have a clue what to believe... just because you read a couple articles and make your decision doesn't mean that it will work for me...





Instead of taking the story for what it is...
You actually want to entertain the idea that this guy found some cure all of cancer and aids and everything else.
Wait, let me get this straight!
So we have a convicted fraud artist who stole hundreds of millions and we should believe him and all the people he conned???


For starters read your own Source... Robert Vesco is the "convict" ... Donald Nixon is who I talked to, and was detained for questioning... never convicted for anything...

If your looking for a debate on whether or not Robert Vesco is a crook... I'm not your guy... I read the articles (multiple times), and I only used those as name resources to try and get the whole picture.... according to the article he was "the investor" for the serum and the island... alot of "investors" are crooks... how else can they get rid of their crooked money...

Look dude I know your just a ball buster and stomping on mine.... on the initial thread I deleted.... your comment, about the napkin written with blood and how I lost it too after wiping the BBQ sauce off my face.... cute...




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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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Look dude I know your just a ball buster and stomping on mine.... on the initial thread I deleted your comment about the napkin written in blood and how I lost it too after wiping the BBQ sauce off my face.... cute...

 


I don't take things at face value. Initially I was skeptical of even just your meeting with Nixon, but it is entirely plausible so I will not "break your balls" on that.

But in this case, the person behind all this, and the main partner with Nixon, was a con artist. There is no reason to believe in their claims or believe that everyone that had dealings with them was lying, instead of just them lying. Which was pretty much proven by their actions and the court of law...

Side note: I have met some people that ran in pretty well known circles. And a few of them told me some outlandish things, eventually looking for money or taking other peoples money. Just because they dropped a couple names, or made it seem like they were some rich powerhouse, it did not sway my skepticism. But in a couple cases, I learned later of the fraud they were engaging in....

It's actually pretty common.

The world is freaking out about getting conned by |the powers that be| the banks, the "overlords" etc. But for some reason when a con artist spouts a story about free energy or an instant cure all, those same people want to take the stor at face value.

I never understood that.
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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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But in this case, the person behind all this, and the main partner with Nixon, was a con artist. There is no reason to believe in their claims or believe that everyone that had dealings with them was lying, instead of just them lying. Which was pretty much proven by their actions and the court of law...

Side note: I have met some people that ran in pretty well known circles. And a few of them told me some outlandish things, eventually looking for money or taking other peoples money. Just because they dropped a couple names, or made it seem like they were some rich powerhouse, it did not sway my skepticism. But in a couple cases, I learned later of the fraud they were engaging in....

It's actually pretty common.

The world is freaking out about getting conned by |the powers that be| the banks, the "overlords" etc. But for some reason when a con artist spouts a story about free energy or an instant cure all, those same people want to take the stor at face value.

 


I can't agree with you more... even "the nice guys" are out to make a buck off someone...


but like I said I need more info to make a solid statement on what I decide... I mean all the "coincidental verification" of Nixon’s story to me is a bit more then coincidental. I mean really, how is it that I find articles to support the following

the serum he spoke of
the supposed island
the monarchy system on the island
the Knights of the Sovereign Order

trust me man... I would have been stoked to not find anything on the matter and have it all be BS smoke up my ***..... all this digging has little by little started to enshrouded me with paranoia that I might "commit the S-word" or have "an accidental drowning" .... I mean really??? one article mentions a Prince lined up for this "island idea" and hints that the god damn Lord Mayor of London might be involved in preventing it.... and brings up "sovereign orders" that might as well be the ****ing illuminati

I could care less about the serum at this point and whether it's real ( that's for later)
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I'm looking at my own personal conspiracy theory now..... and yes I know I can get rambunctious... that's why I try to rarely post anything.... and usually delete most of the reply comments before I even post them....

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posted on Jun, 6 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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I mean all the "coincidental verification" of Nixon’s story to me is a bit more then coincidental.

 


It's not verification though. It's only verification of the story that Vesco and him were using. Whether it be that Vesco was duping Nixon or Nixon was complacent in it.

I can introduce you to supposed billionaires if you would like and they will all feed you the same crap. Secret stories of this and that too, but, it always turns out their business ventures go under after a given amount of time. Strange...

Either Nixon was fully in on the fraud, or Vesco is just that good of a talker he made him believe in the crap cover story for his theft of millions.

That is how I see it. Based off my judgement.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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The one thing that lends credibility to this story is why would this 50 year old man and a Nixon, beeline it over to this punker 19 year old and tell him these stories at all? Practice? Or maybe wants to get things off his chest subconsciously? Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes.

How about looking at this as true. Then maybe we would see that the fraudster(s) were not, but just framed.

Look at the story of Andrew Breitbart. Those who know too much are made dead or branded nuts. Secret Cover tactic A1.

You ever get in over your head on something, and decide it's better to keep it a secret or risk your livelyhood? But then really want to tell somebody, anybody?



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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Every con artist I have met in my life will talk about what they do, their secret plans and all the mysterious BS they are involved in. It is part of the persona. You wouldn't believe how many "secrets" these guys divulge to people.

Part of it is the personality type, and the other part is the con, where they "groom" unassuming marks, just as a predator marks their prey...

And even if the person is not in on the con, but believes in it, they will go and promote it on good intentions. Look how many people will defend new age mystical BS or buy into it, some will sell magnet bracelets to their grandmothers simply because they really believe it will cure cancer or "help them vibrate at a higher frequency", etc...
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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Possibly found the name of "the prince" which was going to be the "main guy" for their island project....

He was mentioned on the Robert Vesco Wiki page regarding a dummy corporation

Wiki - Source


IOS scandal

In 1970, Vesco began a successful takeover bid for Investors Overseas Service, Ltd., a mutual fund investment firm with holdings of $1.5 billion run by financier Bernard Cornfeld, who had run into trouble with the SEC. When his firm ran into financial difficulty, no "white knight" was willing to get involved. Vesco saw his chance and began a protracted battle to assume control of the company, opposed by Cornfeld and others. The battle quickly turned nasty; Cornfeld was thrown into jail in Switzerland and Vesco was accused of looting the company of hundreds of millions of dollars. Many prominent figures in global business, finance, and royalty were tied to the mess, receiving money from one party or the other for support. Among the accusations against Vesco were that he parked funds belonging to IOS investors in a series of dummy corporations, one of which had an Amsterdam address that was later linked to Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, and that he broke into a Swiss bank vault to obtain shares. These allegations are unproven, as Vesco fled the country and spent the next fifteen years hopping between countries that lacked extradition treaties with the United States.[



Then I was able to find some verification to it by the 1001 Club Members list

1001 Club - Source



A banker and CIA agent who financially supported Nixon. Good friend and business partner of Prince Bernhard, whom he met in the late 1960s. The undisputed king of the fugitive financiers. Kicked out of the 1001 Club in 1973 after he became a wanted man for illegal drug and arms trade. Vesco fled to Costa Rica in 1973 in order to avoid standing trial for the alleged theft of $224 million from the Swiss-based mutual fund, Investors Overseas Services (of Meyer Lansky - Some say the Rothschild family was involved)........


So not only is he good buddies with this guy.....

Prince Bernhard - Wiki Source

Vesco is also a CIA agent now???

and "Some say the Rothschild family was involved"....


this is starting to sound more and more like a "lee.h.o." to me.... know what I mean oswald?
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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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Does anyone find it odd that a member of " a group that owns an Island off the coast of the Americas, and on this Island the group called themselves “The Knights of the Sacred Order” who had their own society far away from any government’s rule", and who is possibly the "executioner" of said group, would show up for jury duty?


Seriously, "Oops Your Royal Highness, I'll need to be off Thursday. Gotta a summons and need to run up to Cali for jury duty, so the executions will have to be put on hold til I get back". lol.



posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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HAHAHAH!!! that $#!+ was funny....

Ya, for sure... but remember when he told me the island story he "implied" he was the executioner through some of his verbage... and never actually said he was. The closest thing I got was the smirk after I called him out...

funny thing though I think I recall him saying he flew in on a helicopter (I think he even boasted about "knowing people"... but not enough people to get him outa jury duty?)... I'm pretty sure he didn't fly in and land on the court house itself, but John Wayne Airport (which is 5 to 10 miles away), and drove in.

and the reason he had Jury Duty there... He shows residency in Orange County


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posted on Jun, 7 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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You could be right, he could have been living the con artist delusion, but you could be wrong. When I read Nixon, Rothchild, Cia, princes, and billions, I start to think ....connected.

Interesting, but I guess this will go in the corner library of my brain for now.



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