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Topic started on 4-6-2012 @ 02:24 PM by bekod
yes that is right could they become one nation or act as one nation? news.yahoo.com... from the link
BAGHDAD (AP) — Iran has played many political roles in Baghdad since the fall of Saddam Hussein: spoiler to American-crafted administrations, haven for Iraqi political outcasts and big brother to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's Shiite-led government.

Now add a new description as emergency repairmen trying to keep al-Maliki's coalition from splitting at the seams.
what is your view?


reply posted on 5-6-2012 @ 12:00 AM by bekod
reply to post by KnawLick

i get your point , but then did you read this?
Iran appears to be supporting a member of Tehran's ruling theocracy, Grand Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, as eventual successor for Iraq's 81-year-old Shiite spiritual leader. Such as change would virtually cement Iran's grip on Iraqi affairs and introduce a sharply different philosophy on clerical sway in politics.
the thing is they have a different view on how to rule , not by law or by member party, but by theocracy. As far as not being Persian, well .. this should help dictionary.reference.com... Iran,Iraq, and Syria all part of the old Persian empire see map at this link ancienthistory.about.com... Iran is trying to bring back the old Empire of Persia


reply posted on 5-6-2012 @ 12:01 AM by OpinionatedB
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lol.... Iraqis are NOT arabs

that said, answer to the OP is a resounding NO
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reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 09:37 AM by KnawLick
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Your wrong... The northern part of Iraq are not, they are turks. But the Shia and Sunni portions, although different religions are both Arab, not Persian like Iranians.

news.bbc.co.uk...
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reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 09:39 AM by KnawLick
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Don't get me wrong iraq is in the tank for Iran. No doubt about it. But they won't be one country. This is the eviquelent if a cardinal from italy was assigned to handle America. We wouldn't become an italian proxy. Although religious leaders in Iraq have far more sway than here


reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 09:44 AM by KnawLick
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Somebody of Arab decent... Pretty much the only way to define it sorry... If I'm German but live in America am I not German anymore...


reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 09:46 AM by OpinionatedB
Originally posted by KnawLick
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Somebody of Arab decent... Pretty much the only way to define it sorry... If I'm German but live in America am I not German anymore...


Then it is you who are incorrect. Iraqi's are not of Arab decent... they are Mesopotamian peoples who are genetically distinct from Arabs.


reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 09:55 AM by KnawLick
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and all people originated from africa, so are we all african? get a life...


reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 09:58 AM by OpinionatedB
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lol... you were the one who wanted to argue against fact

you wont find any arab calling an iraqi arab, nor will you find an iraqi calling themselves arab either....unless of course they think you are too stupid to understand fact.

And the fact is, iraqis are NOT arab.
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reply posted on 6-6-2012 @ 10:25 AM by KnawLick
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and once again... i prove a link with my assertions... you can claim whatever you want...

news.bbc.co.uk...


reply posted on 7-6-2012 @ 12:18 AM by bekod
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and yet they are all form Persia, www.encyclopedia.com... it is all just names we know them by now Iran's Iraqis Syrians Egyptians... but then they at one time were under Turkish control, Ottoman empire. here is some history of Iran www.historyworld.net... and this is what the new leader of Iran wants
Baghdad: 8th century AD

In their new city of Baghdad the Abbasid caliphs adopt the administrative system of the long-established Persian empire. Persian Muslims are as much involved in the life of this thriving place as Arab Muslims. Here Islam outgrows its Arab roots and becomes an international religion. Here the Arabic and early Persian languages coalesce to become, from the 10th century, what is now known as Persian - combining words from both sources and using the Arabic script. Here Mesopotamia briefly recovers its ancient status at the centre of one of the world's largest empires.

At no time is this more evident than in the reign of the best-known of the Abbasid caliphs, Harun al-Rashid.










The luxury and delight of Harun al-Rashid's Baghdad, in the late 8th century, has been impressed on the western mind by one of the most famous works of Arabic literature - the Thousand and One Nights. Some of the stories are of a later date, but there are details in them which certainly relate to this period when for the first time a Muslim court has the leisure and prosperity to indulge in traditional oriental splendour.

The caliphate is now at its widest extent, with reasonable calm on most borders. The international fame of Harun himself can be judged by the emphasis of Charlemagne's biographers on the mutual esteem of these two contemporary potentates, who send each other Rich gifts.


Read more: www.historyworld.net...
so yes one county could be seen once again Iran/ Iraq as the new Persia with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as supreme leader


reply posted on 7-6-2012 @ 12:28 AM by bekod
reply to post by dayve

not to get off topic but have you herd of NAFTA? the plan is USA MEXICO CANADA to become as one.


reply posted on 7-6-2012 @ 12:47 AM by dayve
Originally posted by bekod
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not to get off topic but have you herd of NAFTA? the plan is USA MEXICO CANADA to become as one.



Canada? HELL NO......
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