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the Force really exists, top scientists agree

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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 07:00 AM
One theory I've read about the universe(well, actually it's one I came up on my own, after reading an interesting analogy about how the universe works. The reason I've given it some thought is because of how eerily it resembles the Matrix, and explains the problem of evil quite well), and that is God is the universe. However, this God is evil, and tends towards evil and destruction(or the tendency of the universe to reach high entropy. And yes, it seems that we can apply the laws of physics to humans. In fact, it seems that the law of for every action there must be an equal reaction is pretty accurate, i.e if one good thing happens here, one bad thing must happen elsewhere.) It's up to us, the systemic anomaly(the local low entropy, probably allowed by a higher-level God, or we simply agreed to play along with THIS universe's God), to fight against him. To put it simply, God is evil, and we are Neo.

Interestingly enough, in the Matrix Reloaded, the Architect gave humans the choice of perfection, but without free will, and they wouldn't accept. It's kind of crazy because I came up with this as the reason for evil all on my own, even without reading anything about it(and watched Matrix Reloaded a long time ago, and didn't really understand much about it back then).

Another scary similarity is that Neo is said to be a result of mathematical imprecision, and this universe, from multiple sources, appears to be no more than a bunch of waves described by mathematical equations.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 07:13 AM
reply to post by Pervius

Energy CAN turn into matter, but so far we haven't been able to do that yet. We've been able to get matter(or particles) from colliding other particles, but not from pure energy. In the beginning, there were no particles, so how did the first particles come about? Let's put it this way, if pure energy can become matter, then it would be like splitting the atom, and then somehow those energy just came back together.

What causes energy to "curve space" and become matter? They are trying to find Higg Boson, the origin of mass. What if the origin of mass is consciousness?

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 07:15 AM

Originally posted by C-JEAN

And I guess she talked to some of those persons:

JZ Knight

Oh dear, and I was just starting to get interested.
When you put these two on different lines, you lost me!
What a shame!

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 08:08 AM
reply to post by rapunzel222

Kabbalah has already revealed all of this information over 4,000 years ago. This is where Newton received his information on physics. Educate yourself properly

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Renegade2283
reply to post by rapunzel222

I shall now say what needs to be said if this is true. George Lucas was a bigger "Prophet of Science Fiction" then we thought.

I've long suspected George Lucas isn't so much a prophet, as he is someone who takes really good notes. As in, he was "visited", and simply passed on what he was told(with some creative license). the force goes by many names; god ;akasa, etc. I have no doubt of it's existence. As a reiki practitioner, I always thought that that energy was what I was channeling to the recipient. Now that I get in a few minutes of meditation daily(I'm working through some of Franz Bardon's work), I feel it even more.

Now, if I could just get myself a lightsaber and an x-wing.

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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 08:33 AM
reply to post by rapunzel222

have just started reading a book called 'the Field' - you can get it from

It was written by a journalist who has synthesised and brought together ideas from top cutting edge scientists and physicists who are studying quantum mechanics and its larger scale implications.

they are more or less saying that there exists a 'field' of energy that binds all in the universe together at a subatomic quantum level - a quantum field or 'force' if you will

which means that everything we do affects everything else, we are all connected, and our actions can powerfully affect the universe etc.

more or less explains many things religions have been teaching for a while now, the power of prayer, and eastern medicines /concepts like acupuncture and qi energy....

Awesome idea for a thread. Here is your smoking gun:

1 Colossians 1:

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

The article linked in my signature titled, A Theory of Existence - Spirit and Cohesion, would be interesting to you.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:19 AM
reply to post by BobAthome

reply to post by clevelandklik

Actually, no, light is dependent on it's frequency. How so?

Why the velocity of light equals the ratio between EMU and ESU units of charge?

As well, what is light? A gathering of photons that is constantly pushed and molded into a sphere till we see what we call a light ray.

How are Photon created? They start out as unorganized clusters of ether, then they gather together

this all depends on how they are created, if they are created in a high frequency, they remain in that high frequency state same goes when it's made in a low frequency state. But they are pushed as they travel, making them go faster and faster.

Not a lot of people heard of this due to the reason that orthodox teachers speak louder than unorthodox teachers. I heard the unorthodox ones and tested their facts, and they are true. It's more awesome than learning quantum physics, because I can hold it in my hand.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:22 AM
reply to post by rapunzel222

The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield was a book that tried to popularize the energy (force) field beliefs. It's a very intresting topic and if you get really into it, it totally changes the way you look at things.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:34 AM

Originally posted by AFewGoodWomen
reply to post by buster2010

This pertains to the field of noetic sciences. Astronaut Edgar Mitchell founded the Institute for Noetic Sciences in 1979 (I think that's the year). After an epiphany during a spacewalk, Mitchell believed in the concept of everything being attached to everything.

Here's the thing about the institute: Edgar Mitchell touts that the facility in California is for human advancements, but the research going on there is funded by DARPA, Raytheon, The John D. Rockefeller Foundation and other anonymous donors. The things they are researching are secret and massive amounts of money is being dumped into this place. They are researching ESP, dreams and how to manipulate them, how to manipulate thought patterns, and trying to harness and capture the human soul...yes, I know that sounds crazy. This lab is way beyond top secret and I can only imagine what else is being researched.

Names and other info about this research is not going to be made available.

So, they are trying to get to us before we ourselves can. So sad. They already have us materially. Seems they'll stop at nothing.
Hurry and wake up everyone. WE WON'T BE SLAVES.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:43 AM

Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by rapunzel222
but instead we are all part of this vast web of energy, all connected to everything else in the universe on a quantum level

Okay, we're all playing in the quantum foam of the universe. Do you know what that makes us on this teeny weeny speck of dirt? It makes us teeny-teeny weeny-weeny in that quantum foam. Dropping a grain of sand in the ocean would have more influence on the ocean than we would on the infinite quantum foam.

And yet, the atoms that make up YOU are all very important.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 09:54 AM

Originally posted by biggmoneyme

Originally posted by MoneyIsWorthless
reply to post by rapunzel222

Welcome to reality.

Now try some meditation.

yeh its like some of us been knowing about it. other just want to be play mr intellectual

I'm sorry if this itself sounds judgmental, but those are very judgmental comments. You don't have an up on anyone who is looking at it from a purely intellectual viewpoint. I myself feel very stuck at the intellectual level even though I also try to meditate.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 10:00 AM

What makes solids solid when they are not solid.
reply to post by karen61057

hmmm...we do

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 10:55 AM
iv heard and hav read on this before i belive they call it prana, ancients hav spoke of this even the eygiptions were aware of it.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 11:07 AM
reply to post by rapunzel222

ye dost not need this book to understand it. i can say further, Universe is hyper-dimensional Space & human Soul is hyper-D structure too

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 11:16 AM
reply to post by np6888

my theory is that evil only exists in the human brain. what was evil before humans appeared?

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 11:17 AM
reply to post by w3thepatient

I believe that is where critical mass comes into play.

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 11:20 AM
nobody believed me... maybe now, people will have less doubts...

i am a jedi...

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:13 PM
so David Icke was right after all

Here's one for you...

If David Icke lived 2000 years ago...he would have been a prophet...or maybe Jesus himself

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:39 PM
You said you only just started reading this book.
How can you have determined how great it is thus far?
The reviews say its a tough read, seems to me you should read it all before drawing your conclusions and dishing out recommendations.

I just read a book I thought was great until I got past the halfway point and tossed it.

Did she interview these scientists or just use their work, their names, and piece them together with her own ideas?

Having a look around about her, it seems she isn't always factual in her books and is criticized for that.

Her ideas about thoughts affecting the universe isn't new...

posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 02:25 PM

Originally posted by arpgme

Originally posted by jiggerj

I have kept many many thoughts to myself and they have done NOTHING to this world. It's only when we turn our thoughts into actions do things get interesting.

Those thoughts affects you, which then affected your actions on a (sub-)conscious level and how people react, and it spreads from there.

Even if your thought is "I hate that person" and you pretend to like that person in reality, do you not think that your action is still affected?

If you pretend to like someone, and actually like someone, your actions will be different, you may be involved more and helping them more.

Hate may be a thought, but it is also an action. It compels us to conduct ourselves differently around a person that we just don't like. We talk less around them, or talk more to keep them from talking.

How about a thought like, "I wonder what it would be like to live on another planet?" And this thought comes up when you're all alone. How does it affect anything in the universe?
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