posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Zinky
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy
Thanks much for your thoughts as well! Some good ideas, I will think over all carefully.
Yes, we will keep on keeping on
I often wonder about the saying - "God tests those he loves the most". I am not really religious, but I wonder about this - what it may mean.
I do know some people also - who 'keep going' so to speak - but they have gone to "the dark side" for lack of a better way to say - where they
seemingly just live to make others just as miserable as they are.
This is no "reason for living" as far as I'm concerned. You've just stooped to the level of the other rotten people, and you live in a mental and
I have often thought - reading about various religions and philosophies is kind of a pass time of mine - well there is this idea among Wiccans or sim
- where they say that if you try to curse someone else, wish them harm, you will get 3 times that come back on you.
Well I have often thought about this idea, and what it might mean is - it is a metaphor for the 'inner turmoil' you bring to yourself by
feeling angry and jealous of others.
I do try to keep reasonably positive. And if not, at least "neutral". I try not to be jealous of others, either, it is pointless.
I cannot bring myself to be a jerk and a user like others, either. It's not right.
Right, I feel you. The Buddha said, "We are not punished FOR our anger, but BY our anger.", similar to what the wiccans said I guess. However, what
is most important is not striving to be good, or happy, or righteous, but rather to go beyond all these dualistic qualities. Find out the sources of
these, first. There is no good without bad, no happy without despair, no righteousness without unrighteousness... and so on. They are inexplicably
bound together. So trying to remain positive is better than trying to be negative, of course, but it is also a rather futile attempt since there must
be negativity for there to be positivity. Better than striving to be either of these is going beyond this paradigm completely. The deeply confused and
troubled man seeks to be negative, the moderately confused and troubled man seeks to be positive, the wise and untroubled man does not seek to become
anything because he recognizes he already is beyond all dualistic polarities such as negative and positive.
Here is a good metaphor I once heard: A knife has two parts, the blade and the handle. When you pick up a knife, do you pick up just the blade without
the handle or do you pick up just the handle without the blade? No, neither can be true. When you pick up either end, you are picking up both ends,
the entire knife. This is the same as good/bad, positive/negative... By 'picking up' one, you are picking up both. That is why it is better to go
beyond these things completely. We do this, again, by recognizing that the awareness which is seeing these dualistic qualities is itself not a
dualistic quality, it is whole, non-dual. It is beyond positive/negative, good/bad... Nothing needs to be done to make this awareness whole, non-dual,
because it already is. All that must be done is to clear away our mistaking perceptions of reality, in other words, our ignorance. I suggest you look
into Advaita Vedanta (non-dual) or Buddhism. Look up Mooji on youtube and download some eBooks by Ajahn Chah.