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The Nephilim

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posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
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I think this is a good link for everyone to check out.



A jawbone supposedly from Lovelock cave in Nevada.



This guy even mentions a few museums there that display artifacts. So dig in people.


The nephilim built Atlantis, the city that "sank beneath the waves". Yeah it sank beneath the waves as the Great Flood swallowed it. The earthquake was the fountains of the deep breaking open and spilling onto the earth.




posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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I wish! Then,I could replace the ones I have lost
over the years.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by SickeningTruths

Originally posted by Klassified
Height isn't the only indicator of Nephilim DNA. Other traits reoccur without the height being present. Six fingers and six toes, and remnants of an extra set of teeth behind the first row.


That is very interesting.. I have not heard this before. But I have not done MUCH research.



Originally posted by Renegade2283

Originally posted by SickeningTruths
I cant help but wonder if there DNA are still in some. Maybe "The Nephilim" were Dark in color, and over thousands of thousands of years they are now Black folk, (Africans).. what have you..
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Really? Pretty sure your referring to pigmentation with the use of "black folk". Which is entirely based upon sun exposure. Hence northern people are more white, southern people are darker.



I see your point, but my point with this was.. On average, black people are geneticly bigger then most. Then again so are Samoans. I'm not trying to "sell" any ideas here,
I'm only trying to throw more ideas into the thought pool.

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See, you said "black people" again. There are some people who are "black" who are most definitely not larger.

Im just trying to teach people about learning not to generalize, especially based purely on skin color.


The term "Negrito" is the Spanish diminutive of negro, i.e. "little black person", referring to their small stature, and was coined by early European explorers.


Source: William Marsden (1834). "On the Polynesian, or East-Insular Languages". Miscellaneous works of William Marsden. Pub. for the Author by Parbury, Allen. p. 4.
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posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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I say "black person/people" all the time. But I am from the south and we are sometimes a little slow on the PC bandwagon. I personally don't believe in calling someone African-American, Chinese-American, etc. My family, on both sides, were from Scotland and I don't go around calling myself Scottish-American, I am a American pure and simple.

Anyway as far as the Nephilim are concerned, Genesis states that the Nephillim were in the land even after the flood so the flood appears to not have wiped them out. Nephillim 1, God 0.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Then say American, and not "black people/person". Your statement seems to contradict itself.

Im just saying. I dont care much for generalizing with anything, not just skin color. I don't mean to personally attack you or be disrespectful, it is just a tick of mine. Im not making any commands, only suggestions.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
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According to the HolyBible and UFO lore...I am a hybrid.
I carry a gene for producing 6 fingers and toes and I'm rh-.
I do not have 6 fingers and toes,I just carry the gene.


where in the bible does it support what you mean.



Originally posted by Renegade2283
reply to post by mikelkhall
 


Then say American, and not "black people/person". Your statement seems to contradict itself.

Im just saying. I dont care much for generalizing with anything, not just skin color. I don't mean to personally attack you or be disrespectful, it is just a tick of mine. Im not making any commands, only suggestions.



I understand and respect what you are saying. However I'm sure 90+% of you understood my point.


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posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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What's wrong with saying "black people"?

They're black.

White people are white.

Is it still okay to call them white people?

You said "negrito".......is that better to say than "black people"?

If it is, that is totally my new favorite word.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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FFS people, the link, THE LINK:


It is for this reason that it is very important to establish that there are in fact no “modern nephilim hybrids” living today esp. who look human and live among us, which is what this website attempts to do. This same information that the Bible teaches on the concept of Paternal Spiritual Lineage, when applied to the story of the Nephilim in Genesis, shows that there were not any Nephilim after the flood of Noah, and that there is no evidence for any Nephilim living today, nor will there be. Please continue on to the next article in this series.

Having human bodies, that were purely human, human chromosomes, human DNA, the Nephilim must have had human gigantism, caused by the same mechanisms as people who have gigantism today. This is the simplest answer for how the human bodies of the Nephilim were giant. The same processes that are required to take place in a human body today in order for gigantism to result, must have been the same processes that took place in the human bodies of the Nephilim in order for their gigantism to result.

As per modern medical understanding, pituitary gigantism today is caused by a tumor (cancerous growth in) the pituitary gland in the brain, which causes an overproduction of Human Growth Hormone. (1) While some cases of pituitary tumors like this occur randomly, others are genetically linked and pass down through families. (2)

One such case of this is FIPA, Familial Pituitary Isolated Adenomas, which causes both Growth hormone secreting pituitary tumors in childhood (resulting in gigantism) and in adulthood (resulting in acromegaly). FIPA is a hereditary genetic condition which is autosomal dominant with incomplete penetrance. That means it is not sex linked, and either gender can get it, and it is a dominant trait (overtaking recessive traits) but that it only does this some of the time, so people can carry the disorder without having it, and the result varies for those who have it (acromegaly up to full gigantism). (3)

Hereditary gigantism today, like in the example of FIPA, is likely the closest example we have to what the Nephilim had, because what they had caused gigantism, could be carried by someone who did not express the disorder, and because it is hereditary.

People with gigantism today typically have a greatly decreased lifespan. Many giants throughout recent history only lived to their 20s. This closely parallels with the Nephilim-giants that God indicated would only live to be 120 years, when 857 years was the average recorded lifespan. As such there is some parallel in both the gigantism of the Nephilim-giants and the decrease in their lifespan (compared to normal), although these two issues are not shown to be strictly genetically linked, more like two separate genetic problems. If so then it makes sense that as humanity today only lives about 120 years at most, because the genetic problem of the Nephilim’s shortened lifespan spread throughout humanity’s genetics, effecting lifespans of humans from that point forward, separate from the genetic problem of pituitary gigantism, only affecting some.

How would this work? According to an understanding of Paternal Spiritual Lineage, the spirit of the child comes solely from the father of the child. The Bible seems to specify that the first generation of Nephilim were all male (Gen 6:4), but at the same time specifying the nephilim were “men” (Gen 6:5) therefore having human bodies, therefore being capable to reproduce as the bodies of human men do. Understanding that the Nephilim-giants had purely human bodies, and are called men by the Bible, it makes sense that they were virile and also capable of having children. There is nothing that suggests the Nephilim-giants were sterile. As such, if a Nephilim-giant were to marry a human woman, the children would all also have demon-spirits, but human bodies. While the Nephilim-giants are all described by the Bible as male, their children with human women could have been male or female. As the Bible calls the Nephilim-giants “men” on the basis of their human bodies, there is every reason to think that their bodies were capable of the same things as that of any human male body, which includes the production of X-sperm, leading to female offspring.



.....and so on, and so forth, giving a pretty darn good hypothesis on the same thing being discussed in this thread.

Did I mention the links?
Yeah, they're both in my first post.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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Yeah, I could see that really working out. lol.

In a lineup the detective asks you "which person robbed the store?"

"It was the American"

"Ok but which American"

"The American on the right"

"Ok but which American on the right?"

If it was a mixed group wouldn't it be easier to say the white guy on the right or the black guy on the right? lol
I didn't know that saying white guy or black guy was now racist. When I write traffic tickets the blocks are; black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Indian, other.
Even the "African-Americans" where I am from say black guy, white guy.

I understand that you are trying to be PC but our country is sometimes too PC. The government, for the most part , has made the people racist by dividing us. It is the government and their forms that divide the people into races instead of just letting us be one people. Just because it is your pet peeve that we should not say black and the fact that you point it out to others does not mean that those of us that say black or white should now hide our faces in shame because you don't like it. You pointed it out to the OP once and then had to point it out again when he dared to say black once more in his thread. I don't believe anyone of any race, color or ethnicity would have had any problems at all with the wording the OP used had you not derailed the thread with your nitpicking.

I love my black friends and I love my white friends. I hate my black enemies and I hate my white enemies. Oh yeah I have a real good asian friend also, he's from China and he's kinda yellow and his eyes are slanted. I don't have any red friends yet but I would love to meet some good shamans. One of my best friends is brownish. He is of Mexican decent and I would give my life for him as he stood by me when I was struck by a vehicle.

So, anyway, those Nephillim I don't believe were of the "darker" color unless the fallen angels had mated with a race of "darker" colored persons. It is possible though since those areas of the bible were in the zones that had a tendency to create a "darker" colored race because of the sun beating down constantly and the people living a nomadic lifestyle which would cause them to stay in the sun more than other "non-dark" people.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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I think that the biggest misconception and confusion comes from color. "WE" as people have a difference and its goes wayyyy beyond color. Until we are able to do that. We will always confuse the 2 and never evolve.

Peace, NRE.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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Forgive me, but this thread was not supposed to be about race. I was merely making a very vague connection in hopes that most would understand what I was saying... I am quite smart, but no scholar so please forgive.

I thank every one for there posts, for this is giving me much to look into and read up on.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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Go to coast to,coast am and search nephiliam. Great guest about 6 months ago! All civilations all over the world have the flood in there history. If we want to get scientfic, There is no explanation for this since all races were disconnected,by mass oceans and continents. Also fact see levels rised over 600 ft. The story most were told as kids was God could only find one man Noah who was not of the world and was rightious. (forgive spelling,on phone, i.t. problems) As the bible is an translation from hebrew to english, hebrew words can have multiple meanings. Such as The true story of why god sent the flood was 2 destory the nephiliam or fallen angels. If you go deeper down the rabbit hole one could conclude that yes, they are still here. Most scientist that are experianced will tell you that after years of research that only one conclusion can be made. There is 2 many question that cannot be ansewered without a leapof faith or some kind of divine intervention holding it togetheir! There arethose who will attack you for thinking for Yourself, instead of going by the book. Remember those who areremembered by history were attacked for there views. Especially if they differed from popular thoughts of there time. Just saying.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 12:54 AM
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Forgive me for adding to the confusion and derailing your thread even more. I do apologize.

I too am very interested in the Nephillim and have been for some time now. I hope this thread gets back on track and a very lively discussion on Nephillim develops.

Best to all here on ATS and once again I apologize.



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:02 AM
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-There is no genetic evidence of interbreeding with alien DNA
-There is no archaeological record for these creatures.
- Gigantism does not equate to Aliens.

Why do some of you believe this tale of Giants from outer space when the only evidence comes from a story book?

Their home planet or traces of it does not exist, and is suppose to have been in our solar system, given we can trace microwave signals from nearly the centre of the Big Bang, we don't think our own back yard would give off any planetary vibes or historical traces of Niburu, I think H.G. Wells was a little clever fellow when he knew our world could not sustain a species that did not evolve in 1 g gravity environment.

For annuakie to exist on a planet that is made up of nitrogen and oxygen, the remains of infrastructure of their own terraforming would surely exist. For them to have simply been able to exist on earth without assistance, would mean they were evolved from the same kind of conditions, Oxygen, 1G, primate family tree intelligence.

Where is this same as earth conditions planets?

The flaws in the story are so many, but the most abundant comes from; How does a primate oxygen using species form and develop to pretty much the same primate species, just larger anywhere but earth? The made up Niburu planet does not give of any traceable signals it exists, or ever existed providing conditions to allow the development of these creatures....well it would have to be pretty obvious, and situated pretty much third rock from the sun....produce oxygen and have 1 G.
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by zazzafrazz
-There is no genetic evidence of interbreeding with alien DNA (true to my knowledge)
-There is no archaeological record for these creatures. (Wrong)
- Gigantism does not equate to Aliens. (I think I also agree to this)

Why do some of you believe this tale of Giants from outer space when the only evidence comes from a story book?



(Following statement not quote, but is my response)

I don't think the giants came from outer space, I actually don't believe in Aliens all together.. (Depending on your definition of "Alien") But I do believe the Bible. Because man wrote the Bible, it is not perfect, that is for sure. HOWEVER, I believe it is the most accurate, best portrayal we have (in most senses) of our history.

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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:24 AM
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1. All civilations all over the world have the flood in there history. If we want to get scientfic, There is no explanation for this since all races were disconnected,by mass oceans and continents. ......

2. There arethose who will attack you for thinking for Yourself, instead of going by the book. Remember those who areremembered by history were attacked for there views. Especially if they differed from popular thoughts of there time. Just saying.


Point one is incorrect, all civilisations do not have this flood story......
If you could provide the links for these flood stories Ill be grateful, but let me help you out, you wont find them because its simply a fringe myth.

Point 2, these historical record may be popular as it is based on fact or highly researched assumptions, not always right, but heavily researched, and not based on fancy. If you differ in opinion, doesn't mean the norm is actually evil and wrong and providing false information. Perhaps you just find historical truths boring? But that's not history's problem.

A suggestion is to read actual peer reviewed academic papers in conjunction with the Snake Oil sellers like Stichin or Von Daniken and maybe just maybe with enough investigative brain power, you may just see that one is selling books and making theme parks and merchandising their Annunaki story, and the other is making no money really just producing researched and reasonably verifiable theories or truths.

*shrugs* up to you.
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posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:26 AM
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You put your faith in stories, I put mine in science and tangible evidences, neither of us may be right



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by zazzafrazz
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You put your faith in stories, I put mine in science and tangible evidences, neither of us may be right




I am a Christian Scientist. I major in Environmental Studies and Resources. ;p



posted on Jun, 5 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Id enjoy a natter on this with you elsewhere, as its off topic, but I (and this is just my own personal thing) can't reconcile the Christian with scientist, another thread perhaps
would be interesting.



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