S&F Purp, great thread title IMO, reminds of the song. I always enjoy your posts and you seem to be a wise and open person. Like someone said up
there, I'm just going to be telling basically my opinion and speculation on the matter. I don't think that's such a bad thing though and if we didn't
do that here then this forum would be empty and boring. So yea, this will be my "this is what I think" post. I'll try my best to present it in the
form of questions and speculation so someone doesn't feel I'm trying to preach to them.
Maybe we have been thinking of time the wrong way? Time and space seemed to be entwined with each other, almost being one "force" in itself I guess.
Perhaps there is no such thing as a "moment" and everything just "is". In the realm of possibilities and and how we get caught up thinking about what
could/has happened to produce reality now and how we influence it to change the reality ahead of us (glancing on chaos theory here), maybe we forgot
that these are only human concepts intended to describe the world around us and not actually what is.
I guess the place to start is... Is our existance linear or is there some unseen cycle beyond our here/now status? (and of course since the
cyclic notion is what he's interested in, where does it go from there)
I honestly don't think we have a proper word for it. "Linear" seems like such a simple word to describe the passage of time and movement through
space. Maybe "variable dynamic inevitability", that's really a tough one and I am not a mathematician and physicist, maybe they've got a better
explanation in the language of math or even words and sciences that I don't know that much about.
You can slow it down, maybe with extreme variations in physics you can even locally stop the passage of "time" or speed it up. The physical world
seems to play a part in how fast things happen. Time, space and matter are all deeply linked together, suggesting that they were in fact once the same
thing long, long ago.
Even in biology and conscious thought, different organisms appear to perceive time differently. Think of a hummingbird or an ant, obviously those
creatures experience a "slower" perception of time than an elephant or a whale. They seem to be able to perceive and analyze what is "happening" a lot
faster than a larger and slower creature. It's interesting that everything's heart beats about the same number of times, some just beat faster or
slower. Perhaps we may even be able to influence our own perception of time to a slight degree? Can we train our conscious minds to perceive things
slower or faster? Ever been intoxicated? Know how people say time speeds up? Maybe that's because the intoxicated mind "ignores" little bits and
pieces of time and seems to flow through it faster.
I don't know if how fast our heart is beating has anything to do with this, but I do know that when I am running miles and miles it seems to take a
lot longer than if I am jotting away on a keyboard. Does the heart slow down when you reach a "runners high"? Mind over matter, the brain causes the
muscles to relax a little and allows muscles to work more fluidly and efficiently. The mind and body go into a state of peace despite the physical
activity and constant damage to the body, time is ignored and you move more toward the elephant that the hummingbird even though doing the same
As far as a cyclic aspect of reality, I tend to think of things more in the way many, many different instances of two competing forces. For every
action there is an equal and opposite reaction, not so much a strictly defined cycle as a counter-force that tends to create a repetition. Let's take
order and chaos, when there is too much order: chaos ensues. When there is too much chaos: order sets in almost naturally. Along the way small
disturbances in balance throw things off here and there but the general trend is that everything moves towards the center in every way. When it
reaches the center, there is a sort of momentum that causes everything to overshoot perfect balance and sway back to the other side, repeating the
process in the polar opposite eventually coming back across to make a cycle. Again, I don't think we have a word to describe it. Sorry if that is hard
to understand, just talking out my ass here.
As you can tell I'm a fan of chaos theory and the concept of chaos itself, perhaps because the world has too much order so the universe is telling me
to become a counter to it? People seem predisposed to think chaos = bad, order = good. I think they are both... both.
Anyways, sorry for that divergent (I guess?) post, but there is a plethora of things to consider when talking about how time and space is perceived. I
think that all things are linked and we don't so much have much of a way to describe time, space and our existence in layman's terms or in any common
language I know. I don't know if I hit exactly on what you are trying to discuss, but nonetheless you sent me on another train of thought I felt like
writing down here. Hopefully I wasn't too philosophically metaphysical XD for the science forum.
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