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Why do you all think that WW3 will be a Nuclear war?

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posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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Sorry, but if they have the power and capability to do as you suggest why would they want a clean slate?

Surely they are already capable of doing anything and everything they want.

According to your theory they control the major organised religions, they control governments and their military, they control the banks and the major corporations etc.

What else do they want?

Seems like a whole lot of bang for very little buck to me.




posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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I think a nuke could start it off, though I doubt anyone would use them unless they were facing immanent defeat.

That said, if they were facing defeat who is to say they would control their launch capabilities.

I think it would be a conventional war. The end and the beginning could be nuclear in nature.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
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Why are people so convinced that there will be a WWIII at all?

Even a 'conventional' war fought by the major superpowers would have a devestating effect on the world and the environment etc.

The days where superpowers engaged in long, protracted all out warfare are over.

The majority of future wars will involve proxy and / or rogue states with minimal direct confrontation between the major protagonists etc.


Simply because one faction does not control the entire world yet, and history

Even when you still own most of the world, you still have enemy's plotting against you and your downfall that also want to have what you have got for themselves, or have become jealous of what you have and seek to destroy it, there is only one way to be sure this doesn't happen, and that is to push on and dominate and control it all all,

How many wars happened after the tribes of one nation have come together under one flag after one warrior tribal leader united that nation through wars, ...none, right? once conquered & united, there is peace within that nation,... there was never another war with those tribes throughout that nation because they have realised that united they're stronger, life is better, and that really they're no different from each other after all, they now fight as one, that is the story of every single nation today and how there very nations was born, and after 2 world wars it was how the West was born... out of war, after settling there differences through war,

Right now... here, in the present day, we have only a handful of factions left that still need to do this, The West, who are a coalition of nations that have come together after many wars with each other, VS China & Russia who are two country's that have come together to stand in the way of the West's total control & domination,

It is only a matter of time before these civilizations Clash head on, now whether that be an all out war or many many small proxy wars through fear of total annihilation, these small proxy wars we are seeing today being played out in the ME, with The West & Russia/China/Iran, The likelihood of one of these small proxy's getting out of control in the next 50yrs is highly likely, the fun & games will get heated between these powers, and another World War will break out,

Thousands of years of history is in favour of this outcome, we have reach the point that we can kill everybody and we have yet to sort out our differences



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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I don't think there's been a weapon invented which hasn't been used. Humans haven't progressed much, if by anything, since the last use of the atom bomb. So I'm certain nuclear weapons will be used at some point in our lifetimes, perhaps by accident but more likely by miscalculation. And like matches stacked up in a barrel of gasoline, once one cooks off there'll be a chance every single one cooks off.

As to survivability, some people here are quite fatalist about it. But I think nuclear wars are very survivable, get yourself out of the blast zone when war seems likely, consider the prevailing winds & where the fallout will go, head off in the opposite direction & hunker down for 2 weeks.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by daaskapital
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The Cold War was a very dangerous situation, yet both sides (who hated each other) did not fire nukes. Why is this? Because it would have led to destruction. The same circumstance will be apparent if tensions were to rise dramatically again. If there was going to be WW3, the countries would be smart enough not to launch a nuke. If they do launch nukes though, it may lead to a chain reaction which may be the extinction of the human race.

it is idiotic and will not happen.
edit on 3-6-2012 by daaskapital because: eta




I think maybe you have confused yourself ?

The Cold War was a stagnant stand off, it was not a World War was it?

The OP asked why a World War, WW3, not Cold War, WHY it would it turn Nuclear, The Cold War never turned into a World War, but the nerves between such nations in the stand of built up MASSIVE stockpiles of nukes & army's,

Now, had that war of kicked of and escalated into a World War which it would have, our planet would today resemble the something closer to that of planet Mars and none of us would be hear debating the obvious outcome

People buy guns for self defence, just like nations build nukes, and they us them in certain situations when there own very survival depends on it and tend to think of the consistences later, its just something we do out of instinct, you don't know how everybody thinks or how everybody will deal with certain situations,

I don't think most people really understand the mindset of people during times of a World War,

In wars like Iraq, your not going to see people concerned about winning hearts and minds your going to see scared people shooting and killing everything, nobody is watching or judging you like the rest of the world does in proxy wars today, city's will be levelled, and someone will without doubt attempt a nuclear strike



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 08:19 AM
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There will be no nuclear war between first world countries.

If nukes are used it will be by those less than wise in other countries, i.e., terrorist-oriented.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Why does everyone WANT a nuclear war? It is a horrific and ugly way to die. And life on Earth would cease. I dont think I would want to see our beautiful planet destroyed by a few narrow minded bigoted and hate filled bunch of politicians who could not give a too hoots about anyone than themselves. Nuclear Weapons should be banned and put into the dustbin of history. NO NATION should be allowed to have them. Sure there will be terrorists et al, but the safest way to avoid an all out end of humanity and life on Earth Nuclear War is to get rid of them altogether. Ditching them into the Sun or towing them out into Space and blowing them up there would be ideal. Anyone who wants a Nuclear War needs their heads examining. I dont think I will ever forget the horror of films like Threads which showed just how evil nukes are.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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while most countries are not stupid enough to use nukes as you say, the ones that have them are not stupid enough to allow themselves to be conquered either and in desperation they will push the button to save themselves and to inflict as much damage on the enemy as possible, after all, the loser has nothing to lose...if there is a wwIII there will be a nuclear war eventually...



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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The thing is, those in power are EVIL, they don't care about live or die, all they want is to serve their masters which also want death, destruction and everything that is EVIL. If all nations nuke each other, will be chaos, and that's preciselly their goal, mass terror. They do not think as we do, because their attachment to life is as deep as a shallow mud pool. They don't care about us, they don't care about themselves, they only want the EVIL to prevail.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by thecrippler
The thing is, those in power are EVIL, they don't care about live or die, all they want is to serve their masters which also want death, destruction and everything that is EVIL. If all nations nuke each other, will be chaos, and that's preciselly their goal, mass terror. They do not think as we do, because their attachment to life is as deep as a shallow mud pool. They don't care about us, they don't care about themselves, they only want the EVIL to prevail.


By framing those in power as 'evil' you are being too simplistic. This is not about good and evil, which has religious and moral overtones. The problem is that those that are in power are AMORAL.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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The Obsession with a nuclear www3 is because the MSM is using that as a justification to spend another trillion of US tax payers money to invade IRAN. Not to worry our trillions will be made into 4 trillion overnight for the select few on the stock holder boards of these military industrial complex industries.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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"It's a mother#er, don't you know? When they push that button, your ass gotta go! Talking about....nuclear war!"
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by interupt42
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The Obsession with a nuclear www3 is because the MSM is using that as a justification to spend another trillion of US tax payers money to invade IRAN. Not to worry our trillions will be made into 4 trillion overnight for the select few on the stock holder boards of these military industrial complex industries.



Man, it's like the late 1970s all over again -- Iran in the news, Democrats in power but prevailing over a tired economy. Calls for an increase in the defense budget. Concerns over oil.

All you need is another Republican 'actor' voted in as President, who will realign foreign policy to a more 'moral' or religious ideology.


They do say history repeats itself.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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S&F to you, WW3 is here and will be for some time, and for you that say... nukes where are the nukes, I say ...SEE, NO NUKES!!!

Why do i say WW3 is here?

WW3 is a new kind of war, to sum it up, what you see is what it is, not knowing where when and by whom, or how.

This is why all the alphabet soup agency's have an eye on us, for we are the threat unknown unseen, the cop, the postman, the doc, the teacher, the student.
To mom, dad, brother, sister, the nun, the priest, the Rabi, Cab Driver, or the bum on the street... all could be the next threat to the USA.

"Can not have race profiling"

As far as the world, well there is IRAN, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan and the others that are already in conflict, at war with the west, or is that the west is at war the mid east?

so yea WW3 is here and will be for the next 20 or so years.

Q Would nukes be used?
A Not as we know them... but yes.

Q could there might have been one in 9/11?,
A anything is possible nothing should be ruled out.

Q will there be no end to this war?.
A When all know they are of one people... HUMAN



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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I don't think "WWIII" is nessecarily going to be nuclear.

However; I think there are many states (in particular Iran and N. Korea) who have governments that are inherantly unstable and don't even really grasp what they are playing with. I think everyone else has them primarily for deterence. I know in the old Soviet Union there was serious thought on "winnable" nuclear war. That's too much to write about now, but I the Russians currently still put a lot more stock in their nuclear weapons as a deterent.

I think Israel will use them if they felt they were about to get either overrun conventionally (they have woefully limited space in which to fight a conventional war, they can't really retreat) or that a WMD strike was launched on them.

I also think that there are enough non state groups (primarily Al Quedia) that would use them if/when they can get them.

So while I don't forsee say the US, Russia, UK/France, or even China using them (first), I think there are several nations or groups that would.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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I don't believe that. In fact, this entire issue is a way for coward nations to show their bluster. The big powers are smart enough not to start a nuclear war, and the second rate powers such as Iran and North Korea would be wiped out as soon as they launched one nuclear weapon. Even Israel is not going to start a nuclear war, although a conventional attack on Iran is quite possible.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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That is the same thing Gunnery Sargent Hartman said.

And it should be the only way for the USA to go to war.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Why do you all think that WW3 will be a Nuclear war?,

Because too many people are stuck in the 20th century weapons and tactics, and are analog minds in a digital world. They need to get with the times and move right on in to the 21st century, and that weapon is cyber warfare.

More dangerous than nuclear weapons that a few try to control and that most have never used, but enter an era where military doctrine can be implemented with the click on a mouse.

Entire banks whiped out,financial systems crashed in a single day, a complete and total media and power system blackouts,.infrastructure comes to a grinding halt. Where planes can fall out of the sky, and everthing reset with a simple mouse click.

No destruction,everything restored to the way it was without the expense of nation building. The future is now Nukes are the product of a bigone era and are outdated as a dodo bird.

Nuclear War? No.

Possible dirty bombs have always been a threat.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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I think it is important to remember with threads like these that thoughts attract realities that resonate with them. We don't want this subject to even be in the minds of people. Be very careful with this subject.



posted on Jun, 4 2012 @ 10:44 PM
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Because people love doom porn.




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