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Mysterious cameras mounted along St. Lawrence County ( NY ) highways

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posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 02:26 AM
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Mysterious cameras mounted along St. Lawrence County highways; Massena Electric removes one for lack of authorization
Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 2:23 pm
northcountrynow.com...


I can Now see Our Country is Turning into Orwellian Nation

Im sort of Loss For Words ..

a Couple of Years ago we Had Homeland Security Towers Mounted A Long the Boarder
of Upstate NY and Canada Some Facing The St Lawrence River that divides USA & Canada
and Some facing Inland ...

When I first Heard this I though what the Hell is Our Nations Becoming Like North & South Korea

Then Later on the Spy military Drones From Fort Drum ( Mountain Division Base ) located in Watertown NY
are Going into Our Airspace and Surveying The Indian Reservations, St Lawrence County
and Canada for Illegal Activity

Now Along St Lawrence County We Have these Mysterious Surveillance Cameras
Along Our Highways in This County called St Lawrence County


Your Probably Saying So What Right ...!!!!

The State Police, Local Police and the Massena Electric Company

Have No Clue Who PUT THEM CAMERAS on the Electric POLES !! along the Highway ..

There Was One Taken Down By Massena Electric Company
and There's NO Information of Who Owns These Cameras on it at ALL! Nor MANUFACTURE on it ...

And National Grid ( a Electric Company ) isn't Talking ! that provides Electricity in the North Country
that Some of these Camera are on these Poles Owned By National Grid !

And as some of you Don't realize that National Grid !! is Owned BY a British Company

That May of Put those CCTV Cameras in the UK that are Famously Known all Over the UK ....


From the article.... from the Northern NY News Site :: North Country Now

@ At least half a dozen boxes that apparently contain cameras have been hung on utility poles in St. Lawrence County, and in at least in one case, without authorization.

@ Jay said even extreme close-up photos reveal no identifying markings or statements of ownership.

@ State Police Lt. Kevin Boyea of Troop B said he has no knowledge of the cameras, their origin or their purpose. A spokesperson from National Grid had not yet responded to a request for comment by the time this story was posted

@ Massena Electric’s McMahon said he has been working with Massena Police Chief Timmy Currier about mounting some cameras at intersections and at a playground, “so police can monitor those areas,” but he said that program has nothing to do with the camera his crew found.


northcountrynow.com...

But a Couple of days Later Somewhat was Reviled

Please ( See Video ) on the Site !!!
Surveillance Camera Mystery Solved...Sort Of
Story Published: Jun 1, 2012 at 8:20 PM EDT
www.wwnytv.com...



The mystery surrounding those boxes of cameras on utility poles in St. Lawrence County has been solved - sort of. 7 News got some answers Friday from Derek Champagne, Franklin County's district attorney. "It's simply license plate readers and it's just simply part of a grant regarding border related crime," said Champagne. However, he wouldn't comment on who put up the cameras or what it cost.



According to Champagne, an estimated $1 billion worth of drugs are smuggled south through St. Lawrence, Franklin and Clinton counties every year. "Hopefully we can confirm or disavow what's going on regarding some of these stops and seizures," he said. "(It's for) border-related crime...Local traffic is not the focus of this project."


Yeah and its Effecting Everyone in St Lawrence Country and Now everyone is a Suspect ...
and Law Enforcers can Pester Pray Bother anyone with the Patriot Act Backing them UP...


A number of people in St. Lawrence County have expressed concern over the cameras. Many of them are upset because they feel like Big Brother is watching them - in reference to George Orwell's book "1984.





Welcome to Orwellian World !! just Like The CCTV Cameras in the UK

They say it only for Reading License Plates My Ass that its just Only for that ...

The Dam Politicians are NOT Saying Who Put them There or Who Funded it or Manufactured Nor Owned Still ..

What is Really Sad The Local & State Police DID NOT HAVE A CLUE AT FIRST
That these Cameras were Up there Nor Why ... ... Either....

Something is Wrong in this Picture ... State & Local Law Enforcers Police
did not Know and was Not Informed Either ...


I can See Big City's with these Cameras But Not Here.... in North Region ..of New York .



According to Champagne, an estimated $1 billion worth of drugs are smuggled south through St. Lawrence, Franklin and Clinton counties every year. "Hopefully we can confirm or disavow what's going on regarding some of these stops and seizures," he said. "(It's for) border-related crime...Local traffic is not the focus of this project.


The Cameras Are License Plate Readers as they Claim to be

Yet They have Air Conditioning and Heaters ? and a antenna for radio transmission...

Here what one Looks Like



Now can a License plate Reader can be also used as a CCTV Camera?
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posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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They don't look all that robust to me. If the surrounding society can't get straight answers then assume they were put up by some other country, Britain sounds good, so does Russia. Do your civic duty and eliminate the threat from a good range while in Camo!

You have to start somewhere!


P



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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well as my co workers have said as we a a Big discussion on Break

a Spray Can of Black Paint can do the Trick or a Paint Ball Gun !!!



Then again there are alot of Hunters Here in the North Country as
The County is Best Known for Deer & Turkey

Funny thing is How can you get arrested for taking one Down ...


if your Local Police don't have a Fricken Clue Who and How they were Put Up
let alone They Were NEVER Informed and Never Knew They were there

They are Mostly the Same Color as the Transformer on the Pole !!

at a Glance you would think its part of (National Grid Electric Company's) Equipment

and your Right there is Still No Strait Answer of who put them UP as the Police are Guessing the FEDS

Truthfully there isn't Much Traffic Crime to Have these License Plate Cameras Put UP

as There Already Patrol Cars in MY Area that have that type of Equipment in them



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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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We have them all over here as well, you can even watch most of them live on the internet if you want to.

Not my idea of a good time, but I know a few people who actually watch them during snow storms and stuff so they can alert people coming and going on the conditions. I'm totally against all these cameras though no matter what their purpose.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 11:04 AM
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Well its been 4 years


and still No Answer's of who placed these so called Licence Plate Reader's
up on the Pole's around St Lawrence County ..
and still no identification marks.. of Ownership nor Company that made them...

some as far as Norwood Norfolk , Madrid , Heuvelton, Hermon-DeKalb No where near , The Canadian/American Boarder
and the Majority are in Dairy n Beef Farm Towns

well here are some Video's ..

www.youtube.com...


www.youtube.com...


And for Boarder Drug Smuggling ? is the Reason why they were placed there in the first place !!

Nothing has Changed nor In proved. in anything of that ...

There still Drug Trafficking ( at a Minimum ) between The Two Countries.

Nothing in the Local Newspapers showing a Significant Increase of Stopping Drug Smuggling
nor Preventing it
..

So what is the Real Reason why.. ?

Some of these Cameras ( as Ive seen them myself ) are in the middle of No where, in simple Farming Town's

as One Surveillance Camera on a Road around Madrid NY , Has only 3 to 4 Vehicles going on the Road
where this Camera is ,throughout the whole day , that has Practically No traffic at all and the fact is
those Vehicles s are just mostly are from the People that Live on that Road!!

( UPDATE : kinda Sorta
)
just a little More Up Date from Aug 2014 ( just a fraction ) LOL

in a Local newspaper called Indian Times

ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY GETS MORE SURVEILLANCE

CAMERAS
www.indiantime.net...


At least three new sets of surveillance cameras have been installed in St. Lawrence County over the summer according to channel 7 News. The cameras, or "plate readers," are part of a larger surveillance system funded by federal Homeland Security and state grants. They are designed different than others that have been installed in places like Heuvelton, or in the Hermon-DeKalb area and the locations were not publicized. The weather-resistant cameras were reportedly used during the abduction of the two Amish sisters in the town of Oswegatchie. Meanwhile, U.S. Customs and Border Protection is also using a remote infrared video surveillance system with cameras strategically placed along the U.S. - Canadian border to help detect illegal entry.



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posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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Look at the potential use of the technology contained in your new cars.

If your car has WiFi, it also has an IP address, doesn't it?.

Cameras like this won't be needed when they have everyone spying on each other, like they pretty much already do.

Maybe the cameras are there to monitor wildlife activity.

Why doesn't somebody just ask?.
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posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
Look at the potential use of the technology contained in your new cars.

If your car has WiFi, it also has an IP address, doesn't it?.

Cameras like this won't be needed when they have everyone spying on each other, like they pretty much already do.

Maybe the cameras are there to monitor wildlife activity.

Why doesn't somebody just ask?.


They DID Plenty of times ,, and it's the same response " Drug Trafficking"

Local Town Officials, even Asked who put these Surveillance Boxes Up and who made them ..

and they got Nothing for a Response.. from New York State,

Only its for Reading Licence Plate numbers and are being Used for Drug Trafficking
nothing more , from the Bigwigs from Albany NY ..

These Surveillance Boxes have Air conditioning and Heating and are not Small..

There were place there 4 years ago , and i agree with you with Wifi and Modern Technology
most Vehicles now have SDD hardrives that recording everything and GPS in them and Send where ever..

How your car's black box is tracking you
You’re trading personal information for safety and convenience
Published: July 2014
www.consumerreports.org...

with that said ... for the Newer Vehicles that is ..

MY Personal Opinion :


The Cameras could placed be up there for a VISUAL

for a Upcoming Major Event that the Government Knows about
a Observing post of seeing what going on in case of a Event perhaps ??

War , climatic, Apocalyptic , Invasion, Major Environmental Downfall from Natural Disaster or Disease epidemic

Well if your miles deep Underground in some kind of Base or Bunker, Away from a Major Disaster Event
then you can have a Visual from ( Topside )

I Know Conspiracy Doom Porn !! LOL

hey, makes sense though ... if you think about it ..




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posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 11:55 AM
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Very odd.

These things look stereoscopic.

I wonder what would happen if someone decided to paintball the cover of these and wait to see who showed up to deal with the problem. Might be interesting results, might produce more questions than answers.

Surely if they weren't able to be used for whatever purpose they have, then whomever put them up would see to it that any issues were dealt with. Could be a third party company contracted out for maintenance might produce a trail to follow.

Just a few random thoughts..



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: Wolfenz Well its been 4 years and still No Answer's of who placed these so called Licence Plate Reader's up on the Pole's around St Lawrence County .. and still no identification marks.. of Ownership nor Company that made them... some as far as Norwood Norfolk , Madrid , Heuvelton, Hermon-DeKalb No where near , The Canadian/American Boarder and the Majority are in Dairy n Beef Farm Towns well here are some Video's .. And for Boarder Drug Smuggling ? is the Reason why they were placed there in the first place !! Nothing has Changed nor In proved. in anything of that ... There still Drug Trafficking ( at a Minimum ) between The Two Countries. Nothing in the Local Newspapers showing a Significant Increase of Stopping Drug Smuggling nor Preventing it .. So what is the Real Reason why.. ? Some of these Cameras ( as Ive seen them myself ) are in the middle of No where, in simple Farming Town's as One Surveillance Camera on a Road around Madrid NY , Has only 3 to 4 Vehicles going on the Road where this Camera is ,throughout the whole day , that has Practically No traffic at all and the fact is those Vehicles s are just mostly are from the People that Live on that Road!! ( UPDATE : kinda Sorta
) just a little More Up Date from Aug 2014 ( just a fraction ) LOL in a Local newspaper called Indian Times ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY GETS MORE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS At least three new sets of surveillance cameras have been installed in St. Lawrence County over the summer according to channel 7 News. The cameras, or "plate readers," are part of a larger surveillance system funded by federal Homeland Security and state grants. They are designed different than others that have been installed in places like Heuvelton, or in the Hermon-DeKalb area and the locations were not publicized. The weather-resistant cameras were reportedly used during the abduction of the two Amish sisters in the town of Oswegatchie. Meanwhile, U.S. Customs and Border Protection is also using a remote infrared video surveillance system with cameras strategically placed along the U.S. - Canadian border to help detect illegal entry.


When people put cameras up with no identifiers or knowledge of ownership, it means they are doing it for a purpose that will outrage the public. There is no other reason in human behavior to do this unless they feel guilty about doing it.

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posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Wolfenz

Very odd.

These things look stereoscopic.

I wonder what would happen if someone decided to paintball the cover of these and wait to see who showed up to deal with the problem. Might be interesting results, might produce more questions than answers.

Surely if they weren't able to be used for whatever purpose they have, then whomever put them up would see to it that any issues were dealt with. Could be a third party company contracted out for maintenance might produce a trail to follow.

Just a few random thoughts..


Its been Mentioned , and Talked about , by some officials.. Unofficially under the radar ...

even themselves had said that THE Bigwigs in Albany refuse to say much .. had told our Mayor of my Town ,
"Get Used to them" The Local Police and State Police didnt have a Clue nor The Local Electric Company's



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Wolfenz Well its been 4 years and still No Answer's of who placed these so called Licence Plate Reader's up on the Pole's around St Lawrence County .. and still no identification marks.. of Ownership nor Company that made them... some as far as Norwood Norfolk , Madrid , Heuvelton, Hermon-DeKalb No where near , The Canadian/American Boarder and the Majority are in Dairy n Beef Farm Towns well here are some Video's .. And for Boarder Drug Smuggling ? is the Reason why they were placed there in the first place !! Nothing has Changed nor In proved. in anything of that ... There still Drug Trafficking ( at a Minimum ) between The Two Countries. Nothing in the Local Newspapers showing a Significant Increase of Stopping Drug Smuggling nor Preventing it .. So what is the Real Reason why.. ? Some of these Cameras ( as Ive seen them myself ) are in the middle of No where, in simple Farming Town's as One Surveillance Camera on a Road around Madrid NY , Has only 3 to 4 Vehicles going on the Road where this Camera is ,throughout the whole day , that has Practically No traffic at all and the fact is those Vehicles s are just mostly are from the People that Live on that Road!! ( UPDATE : kinda Sorta
) just a little More Up Date from Aug 2014 ( just a fraction ) LOL in a Local newspaper called Indian Times ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY GETS MORE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS At least three new sets of surveillance cameras have been installed in St. Lawrence County over the summer according to channel 7 News. The cameras, or "plate readers," are part of a larger surveillance system funded by federal Homeland Security and state grants. They are designed different than others that have been installed in places like Heuvelton, or in the Hermon-DeKalb area and the locations were not publicized. The weather-resistant cameras were reportedly used during the abduction of the two Amish sisters in the town of Oswegatchie. Meanwhile, U.S. Customs and Border Protection is also using a remote infrared video surveillance system with cameras strategically placed along the U.S. - Canadian border to help detect illegal entry.


When people put cameras up with no identifiers or knowledge of ownership, it means they are doing it for a purpose that will outrage the public. There is no other reason in human behavior to do this unless they feel guilty about doing it.


Outrage the Public.. if they Actually Knew where they came from.. and who operates them ,
Homeland security ... more Likely or The Government Dirty Little Jobs .. in the near future..



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