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Ron Paul Doesn't Believe In Evolution

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posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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No. Personally, a persons religious views have nothing to do with how I feel about them. Just like the crap started about Obama being Muslim, it don't mean squat to me. Everybody has the right to believe what they want.

Its the political views that matter to me. The social ideals. And the love and understanding of the U.S. Constitution.




posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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It is the "Evolutionary Theory", is it not? I didn't realize it was regarded as 100% fact, even within the scientific community. So it's not the "Theory of Evolution", it's the "Fact of Evolution"?


It is presented as fact to schoolchildren. It is not presented with alternative views. But then, that is preetty much the way all scientific material is presented.
It is the god of materialism.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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As Ron Paul is a die hard christian it's predictable he does not believe in Evolution, that's fine. You may agree with him on the majority of his policies but personal things like this shouldn't matter. But then again if everyone thought the same thing then that would be a very boring place indeed.

Like some sort of hivemind, aka North Korea.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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thought that I should mention too, that gravity is still considered a "natural phenomenon" and still hasn't been proven as fact. so, im pretty sure that this whole thread is bunk and a waste of your time.

im really starting to wonder about the influx of members here on ATS.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by nofear39

Originally posted by stanguilles7


A scientific theory is NOT the same thing as a guess.



a theory is just someones opinion


No. 'theory' in the common, colloquial usage means 'any old guess'. But a theory in science is "a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena". A scientific theory is one that has been confirmed by testing, observation, and applicability to the present and future. A 'theory' in the common usage just means 'any old guess'.



If you've ever taken a freshman or sophomore level high school science class you would know this.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Santorum - fanatically denies evolution
Bachman - fanatically denies evolution
Perry - creationist who thinks evolution is a theory that's out there.
Gingrich - he believes in both - in order to pander to both sides
Romney - he believes in both - in order to pander to both sides
GOP - generally all of them will be creationists, none strictly supporting an atheist view of evolution.

This just in, "Republicans are closely tied with Christianity"
Also just in, "Christians do not spout out their belief in evolution".

Lousy attempt to besmirch Ron Paul with a video from 2007.

Edit: Jon Huntsman believed in evolution. He was the real conundrum of the GOP campaign. Pro-life and pro death penalty qualified him, evolution and support of gay marriage put him on the furthest left of right possible. Hard to gain alot of support that way.
edit on 3-6-2012 by primus2012 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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Ron Paul is a gynecologist that doesn't support women's reproductive rights.

Why should his refusal to understand evolution surprise anyone?



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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why are you making a thread of this? in response to another person hating on non ron paul people, who also said people who believe in creationism is stupid?

why not just post this in that thread?



hes a christian and most Christians dont believe in evolution.




man this site has almost hit the bottom. I think im deleting my account soon.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Santorum - fanatically denies evolution
Bachman - fanatically denies evolution


Your point being.....?



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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man this site has almost hit the bottom. I think im deleting my account soon.


OK. Probably a good idea if this thread made you feel that way.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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don't let it bug you... it's just a fascist tool trying to make himself not feel as bad by trying to make others feel worse.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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its not just this thread. lol. i never said it was just this thread. this site consists of more than your thread


again..
why did you create this thread and not discuss it on the other thread? what is your point to this thread? how does ron paul not believing in evolution have anything to do with is political views?



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by nofear39

Originally posted by stanguilles7


A scientific theory is NOT the same thing as a guess.



a theory is just someones opinion


No. 'theory' in the common, colloquial usage means 'any old guess'. But a theory in science is "a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena". A scientific theory is one that has been confirmed by testing, observation, and applicability to the present and future. A 'theory' in the common usage just means 'any old guess'.



If you've ever taken a freshman or sophomore level high school science class you would know this.



While not religous one bit, I still dont base my reality on what science tells me wholeheartedly. From what I gather, scientific reality can only go as far as the technology of the day lets it. How many things were taken as fact (or almost fact) 100 years ago in science that have been disproven today? How many things we accept today as scientific fact will be disproven in the next 100 years.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Furbs
Ron Paul is a gynecologist that doesn't support women's reproductive rights.

Why should his refusal to understand evolution surprise anyone?


Ron Paul is an:
obstetrician (OB)
[ob′stətrish′ən]
a physician who specializes in the branch of medicine concerned with pregnancy and childbirth.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
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Santorum - fanatically denies evolution
Bachman - fanatically denies evolution


Your point being.....?


Republicans aren't evolutionists. Most are honest about it. Some try to play the middle. What is your point about Ron Paul being a creationist? Was it meant to be shock and awe that a Republican Christian does not support the theory of evolution?



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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what is your point to this thread?


I wanted to see if any Paul supporters would be willing to openly state they disagree with Paul on ANYTHING. A few have, and I admire them for their honesty. You can still like Paul and disagree with one thing. I really like a number of Paul's opinions. That doesn't mean I would vote for him. You can want to vote for him, and still disagree. Or can you?



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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However if we want to argue semantics I could point out that it's not called the theory of evolution. It's actually called the modern evolutionary synthesis.
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As far as I know, the question to Ron Paul was whether or not he believed in evolution not a union of ideas from several biological specialties. (There's some more semantics for you). Although it is a current consensus it was produced between 1918 and 1932. Although the modern synthesis solved difficulties and confusions caused by the specialisation and poor communication between biologists in the early years of the 20th century it did not solve them all by any means and the inconsistencies are rarely highlighted and where possible simply ignored because they do not meet with the "current consensus".

I feel there are too many questions not answered by science and whilst that does not mean they never will be, it is also possible intelligent design played a significant part in creation. The two schools of thought are not mutually exclusive.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by primus2012

Originally posted by Furbs
Ron Paul is a gynecologist that doesn't support women's reproductive rights.

Why should his refusal to understand evolution surprise anyone?


Ron Paul is an:
obstetrician (OB)
[ob′stətrish′ən]
a physician who specializes in the branch of medicine concerned with pregnancy and childbirth.


My bad. I admit, I don't pay much attention to his idiocy. Thanks for the correction. Doesn't change the point, if anything, it makes it more valid.



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by primus2012

Originally posted by Furbs
Ron Paul is a gynecologist that doesn't support women's reproductive rights.

Why should his refusal to understand evolution surprise anyone?


Ron Paul is an:
obstetrician (OB)
[ob′stətrish′ən]
a physician who specializes in the branch of medicine concerned with pregnancy and childbirth.


My bad. I admit, I don't pay much attention to his idiocy. Thanks for the correction. Doesn't change the point, if anything, it makes it more valid.


He ran a birthing clinic, not an abortion clinic, and you think that is a bad thing?



posted on Jun, 3 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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Domo1, thankyou for this thread. I'm shocked that Dr. Paul has an issue with the Theory of evolution, being he has a medical degree. The facts for evolution are overwhelming, a number of distinct mechanisms have been identified and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, especially in the field of genetics.
So I must say it speaks volumes about a possible suspension of logical thinking, which I personally find alarming. What other "facts" could be ignored that do not fit in with his Dogma ?
Or are we looking at someone that is making a politically expedient statement for what he perceives to be the majority of his support base?


It would be good to hear why exactly he does not believe that the Theory of Evolution explains the observable facts (4 billion years of fossils, Mendel's experiments, thousands of well documented new species of life that were brought into creation only in laboratories through intentional manipulation of their genes and/or changes to their environment i.e.fruit files, worms, house flies, bacteria, viruses etc., the Galapagos Islands for hundreds of examples of different species diverging into even more species in order to adapt to different environments.)
Evolution is only an affront to Genesis literalists, most Christian’s believe that evolution is a mechanism the “Creator” employed to produce life on this planet.

I am utterly amazed at how many people do not understand the terminology of "Scientific Theory", what are they teaching in schools over here? So many people appear to be confusing the term with a Hypothesis, which is an "idea" that is not proven. Once the scientific community has a hypothesis then it's all out to see if scientific observation and predictable results can be shown to be correct, if there are enough peer reviewed experimentation, observation and correct prediction proven then we can go ahead and call it a theory. Famous theories include Gravity, Kinetic-Molecular Theory and General Theory of Relativity.
Evolution theory says that all living things are related to one another through common ancestry from earlier forms that differed from the present forms. Biologists agree that all living things arose through a long history of changes shaped by physical and chemical processes that are still taking place. Variability among individuals in a population of sexually reproducing organisms is produced by mutation and genetic recombination. The resulting genetic variability is subject to natural selection in the environment.
Humans are primates. Physical and genetic similarities show that the modern human species, Homo sapiens, has a very close relationship to another group of primate species, the apes. We share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. Humans first evolved in Africa, and much of human evolution occurred on that continent. The fossils of early humans who lived between 6 and 2 million years ago come entirely from Africa.
Most scientists currently recognize some 15 to 20 different species of early humans. Many early human species -- certainly the majority of them – left no living descendants. Scientists also debate over how to identify and classify particular species of early humans, and about what factors influenced the evolution and extinction of each species.



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