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Were you in the "Gifted Program" ?

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posted on Mar, 9 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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I was in Mentally gifted minds but i was actually in it when it changed over to GATE in 1980 which it is now called if you were in this program you were part of a eugenics program among other things there was a lot of pressure and if you couldn't handle it you would be discarded. Take a look here and download the program mission eric.ed.gov... or go straight to this file files.eric.ed.gov... read the first 5 pages and you will see what you were being groomed for I was told my IQ was over 130 my sisters over 140 I always felt like i was in the program because of my older sister she was in from 1977 or 78 to about 1983 or 84. Her experiences were slightly different than mine more field trips more guest speakers. I was forced to do plays to be in a choir to sing I hated these things. I really hated this program when i first got in i thought it was cool and i bought all the propaganda about being a genius who doesnt want to think they are special in a good way.I bought it all but when the program was over and I went back to regular school I had problems keeping up on home work but i was way ahead of everyone we never did homework in gate rarely just reports. So going back to regular school and doing homework took a while to get use to. I feel lik ethere was a darker reason for some of the kids to be in the program. As a child i took a IQ test alone in a school room no one used 2 people in suits ive never seen before or since i took this test at 5 or 6 years old. I never got the test results of this or what th etest ment I was only told i had a genius IQ my parents never saw the test no one did and you can't find it here or anywhere. So basically a couple guys in suits test kids at every school they answer to no one there no oversight and they pick your child under the story that they are picking the top 2% in academics but they can easily say they are doing that but are really looking for another trait. Most of the people i went to school with in my class was white at a 99% mexican school that we were bused to so we stayed together the 2 classes of GATE only hung out amongst ourselves because we were taught that we were special and we actually did have the most popular kids in the program. Anyway those people doing the tests could easily pick any of the children they test they could pick them for anyreason say it was their IQ and no one would be wiser.




posted on Mar, 9 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: justintime9

Sounds like your program wasn't very good.

The one I had was excellent. We had a pull out resource room where we learned formal logic, advanced creative problem solving, did project based learning (things like organizing a school-wide mock election one year), and we had accelerated and differentiated curriculum in the classroom.

Then in junior high we had both a resource pull out room and the beginnings of AP placement in both English and Math which continued as a track clear through to high school where science was added to it. In high school, we lost the resource pull out but gained access to all the academic competitions and seminars and ability to go on special field trips to the lecture series at the nearby major universities as we chose.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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I didn't receive any "gifted" program opportunities until the 6th grade.

I remember taking the test, and at the end of it was a page with a bunch of circles on it. We were supposed to connect them in some way, open to interpretation. I naturally (being an artist and cartoonist) drew a variety of facial expressions in every circle, turning them into little people. Because of that, the testers claimed I was unfit for the Vanguard Program at that District because I didn't create a machinery or some other inanimate construct. My stepfather, a teacher himself and highly educated politely informed them that I had indeed created a system construct. A social system. After that Enlightenment, the Board of Directors redacted their original position and I was accepted into the program.

AP later on in High School. History, Art and English.

Kinda funny, I grew up wanting to be a Comic Book Cartoonist or Animator, and here I am studying Psychology and Sociology in an Alternative Learning Landscape to this day. That social system and care for such is just ingrained. I never thought about it much back then, but I'll be dipped. Transferring out of regular education was a bit of a culture shock in regards to the intensity of the required material, but in the long run I am really thankful my stepdad recognized my potential and helped advance my curriculum.

Interesting how all those classes became vital components to a field of study I didn't consider until years after the fact.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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It was called Enrichment here--and only about twenty of us.
IQ tests, separate classes, and field trips. I think it was more of a way the school district could keep us from getting bored at the same time as keeping up their standardized test scores; nothing too pernicious.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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I was IQ tested every year from pre-k through 12th grade for advanced classes but it was just taking higher level classes than the grade level we were in.

My oldest daughter and stepson were placed in the TAG (talented and gifted) program at their school and they are placed in special TAG classes twice a week to do mostly project work involving outside the box thinking and imaginative idea creation.

It's pretty interesting. My daughter is working on a project now where she has to design and create a national park with whatever she wants in it. My stepson did the same project last year and had a ninja forestry service as the protectors of the park which was inhabited by all kinds of made up flora and fauna from his head.

The class teaches kids to work together and challenge each other's ideas.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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I have been thinking about this over the last few years. I was in the Gifted & Talented in New Jersey in the 1980's. We would go twice a week to the School Board office from 3rd to 7th grade. We had two teachers/ 2 classes per grade of 7-10 kids each. One teacher - who was really nice - was named "Mrs. Hyde". We did a LOT of logic problems. We would design crossword puzzles. There was a computer game where you would get clues as a person who woke up from a Cryogenic chamber, and had to find their way around the dark in a post apocalyptic underground chamber maze. You would just get verbal clues/text prompts on the computer and have to figure out how to get the flash light, find a key in one room, that fit a box in another room, what your situation was. Kind of like Oregon trail but Sci Fi. Also we did a lot of research - in retrospect like the CIA in the movie "The Good Shephard". We would each get a black and white photo, and figure out when and where it was taken, and go research the newspaper archives at the public library. One, for example, was General Grant's funeral parade on 5th Ave and I figured it out with a magnifying glass - that they were passing St Patrick's Cathedral, and found other clues in the ladies' clothes, etc. I read in "Thanks for the Memories" that "gifted" programs in the 80's were part of the program. I also remember one day, two men in suits came and took each of us individually to a separate room to watch a 10-min film -- but it was all symbols and didn't make much sense. It had pyramids - like the dollar bill - and other symbols. My parents asked me what happened at school that day, and I said "nothing," but I wonder if we were being brainwashed or programmed. It was also the Cold War - so we were probably being tracked. It was a really diverse group of kids. I do remember also taking an IQ test in 5th grade.


edit on 9-9-2017 by JohnWinters21 because: added Cold War

edit on 9-9-2017 by JohnWinters21 because: IQ test



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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My names Dallas, and I've never been a part of an online forum before today (unless you count Neopets [I don't count it]. I'm sure there are rules and regs here that I'm not aware of so I ask the members of this board to guide me and I'll try to rectify them as well as I can. I tend to be verbose in written form but I ask you to bear with me, this is a very important subject to me

I'm a 27 year old American citizen and very into keeping an open mind regarding conspiracies- holding universal truth as one of my few passions.

I was doing my usual research into freemason symbology in the media, architecture, consumer products, etc., when I made the turn into a subject I find entertaining rather than tedious, MK Ultra (Monarch) mind control. For some reason today of all days I made a connection (justified, albeit skewed) to the old elementary school days and being invited to participate in the local gifted program. The thing is I remember absolutely nothing of the actual testing or activities, although I do remember (my mom does as well) soon after the program finished I was put into a remedial group (slow classes) until my mom had to petition the school to allow me into regular classes again. I faintly remember during this time I spent one on one time with a guidance counselor and I remember something about her bringing on these big white cardboard poster things with various scenarios (i can't recall the actual subject matter) and I'm not sure if I had to assess them, or if she was guiding me through them, it's all hazy.
I haven't read any posts before mine in my haste, and I'm sure that's a rule of some sort so if it is I'm sorry. I'm just really hoping someone could help me fill in the blanks.
Thanks, guys!



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: FissionSurplus

I have a theory, not fully formed, that maybe they in some ways manipulate certain individuals to have a lower drive for progression in society, so that those who would question and theorize would be at a disadvantage and not likely to be taken seriously by their more successful peers.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: Roundtree

Totoro never looked so good.

I was never in a program. I think the most gifted are those they never caught still wandering around the concrete jungles and cyber digs of the great digital highways of this reality.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: Roundtree

yes,
in the late 1970's and into the 1980's i was in one of those programs. (central california) it started out as MGM - mentally gifted minors. it changed to GATE - gifted and talented education. i was involved in the program from 1st grade until 8th grade.

like others have posted, i don't remember taking the tests but was told i had a high IQ. we were handed MENSA applications then too.

we did a lot of wonderful projects. examples:
we wrote basic programs to tally up our school election.
we got to see and discuss a dry ice radiation detector
we were given word problems to solve. some of them were easy others were quite difficult.

we played a game where some students were elected officials and other students were citizens of a town.
we were given a social/environmental problem and each "elected official" was only allowed to help (or not) limited to the regulations of their political office. it was fun and eye opening. i wish i could remember the name of the game.

we sometimes had chess problems to solve.

we took trips to places like Griffith park observatory.

it was a wonderful experience.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 08:43 PM
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I am questioning the ?science? when it comes to identifying 'gifted' when autism shows the brain functions differently and neurons are connecting differently...doesn't mean disabled...what does it mean?



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 08:23 AM
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O brother OOO look your o so special .
Now take the so called non gifted kids have them learn by people in the fields have them go on field trips to the places these people work .

Ten to 1 They will do better in life as well .

There is one guy who was raised to believe he was a god when he got older he believed he was a god .
Every one is gifted the trick is finding what gift they have then encouraging it .

Me I was always in the NON even less then normal classes .
Being board out of my skull I would read the entire math- English or what every book in the first week and pass every test with a B or higher never even taking the books out of my locker .
Never did homework . Just spent 5.5 hours board to tears .2.5 hours was the time when something was learned .
Being told by people just how stupid i was I once just got straight A's . Just to show them .
O brother any kid in that class could . We were not dumber then you were were board out of our minds because of the repetitive teaching that is like a coin clicker game .
People use to call them drones ( they droned on and on like a speech by a guy selling vacuum cleaners )
School is not designed to teach ' the classes every one passed with A's were- cooking -metal -shop -wood shop- art-science . Notice a theme yet ? All class that there is alot of interaction in .

Your not just sitting staring at a clock wondering when this 100,000 years will be over .
So you got noticed and got more attation and it SHOWS now find the kid on your block who you think is the most stupid and do it with them and watch the difference .

Its all in how you teach the kid . Teach them hate they hate teach them love they love teach them they are smart They will be a few points on a IQ test hold little meaning .

I for one just made pictures out of the fill in the dots on the test talk about boring In order to Gage someones intelligence you first need to find something they love and filling in dots is boring .

How do you expect to teach a kid how staring out a window ? You say its because he is dumb I say its because you suck as a teacher .



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