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My daughter since elementary school was considered a candidate to gifted program, but she refused to have any part of it, regardless of that she graduated with honors from high school got scholarships and ended up also graduating with high honors from UGA without taking been in the program, many of the other students in that program never got any grades higher than her and never earned honors.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Roundtree
I used to be a gifted program teacher for middle school children the truth is that while the schools wants to glorified children that are "a littler more" academic inclined children from the 45 children I had only two were truly considered exceptional bright, I have one student that was given the SAT equivalent and passed and he was a middle school kid.
The rest were the children of prominent members in the town like doctors, lawyers, political figures and some members of the school board.
Actually people do not have a clue that the so call gifted program falls under the challenged program where children have disabilities and are actually treated as equal
Originally posted by Whateva69
have any of you guys heard of thisThe Golden Key International Honour Society
I just found out my brother in-law was told he should join.
love and harmony
Originally posted by system.robot
I was an air force brat, enrolled in the Department of Defense run school system in Turkey. In 1st grade i was put in the "TAG" program, Talented and Gifted. I was also put on ritalin at the same time. In 5th grade we moved to Ohio. There I was put in a public "magnet" school, but got kicked out for getting into fights as many students there bullied me, and singled me out for not being of African descent. I was then homeschooled trough the 12th grade. I received a High School Diploma from the State of Florida at age 15. I switched from ritalin to cannabis after graduating. I still suffer from moderate adult adhd/hyperactivity. Tested IQ average 147
Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to post by marg6043
I was a very intelligent child, but this was the 70's and our school had none of these programs. In fact, very few schools had anything like that back then. My first grade year was spent in the school library where I was told to read any book that I wished, because there wasn't anything in the curriculum for first grade that I did not already know. So they gave me free reign of the library in order to have something to do. After reading everything in that elementary that held any interest to me, I was taken to the high school library to make book selections and later still to the public library to do the same.
In the summer, the public library had reading contests and I would check out 5-10 books on a Monday and return them on Wednesday. By third grade, I would read mostly non-fiction and only the classics as far as fiction went. Also by third (or was it the fall of fourth) grade, the local PTO finally twisted Mom and Dad's arm enough to allow me to take an IQ test. The results were staggering to say the least and they were not to be discussed with me until after high school graduation. The result: undeterminable. But a key to note here is that IQ tests do not in any way, shape or form measure intelligence. They only measure the ability and speed of recalling information. So with a steady diet of reading material well outside my age level coupled with excellent memory retention, what other outcome could be expected, IMO. The specific result was that I "...went beyond the the parameters of the test...an actual number was undeterminable, although well above the minimum for genius level. Perhaps above 200...the results are not to be discussed until after graduation from high school for fear that he would use this information to manipulate or coerce other students and teachers..."
I became aware that the results were shared among the teachers, possibly even before my parents, due to the way I was treated after the results came out. Mostly suspicion and fear. A few refused to believe the results and would try to knock me down a peg or two when they could. If I had a nickel for every time an adult uttered the phrase "ungodly intelligent" (or anything similar) in either a positive or negative way, I could have "retired" before I had my drivers license.
Over all, I would say that the experience has been a negative one. Socially, I tend to be more reserved and withdrawn than my peers, but throughout school tried to appear more outgoing. I was my own clique in high school (people would gravitate toward me) rather than belonging to the jocks, preps, stoners or nerds but got along with and was at least mildly accepted by all of them. My lunch table was quite the eclectic group and tended to have more mature and intelligent discussion--religion, politics, philosophy, literary works, etc. Sometimes the teachers on lunch duty would stop by to participate.
Sometimes I worry that I missed out on the frivolity of youth. Other times, I don't think I would have changed a thing. As to why there is such a high incidence among ATSers... well, birds of a feather. But overall, it tends to be the quiet and calm intelligent discussion. I tend to think that the expected atmosphere of mutual respect as to say YouTube comments, has a greater influence on holding our collective interest than even the topics themselves.
Having a community of people we can related with is far better than the old phobia of being abducted from our families when we were children and stuck in a government think tank dreaming up new and creatively destructive ways to kill people...or am I the only one that had that fear growing up?
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Stormdancer777
I know smart people.
I know people who are not so smart.
But is a person good?
You don't need smarts, wsdom, intelligence to have a good heart.
So short bus, special classes, IQ tests, don't mean anything if you aren't good.
Just my wee little opinion. What do I know?